Mace change vs Minor Mangle does this make sense?

Starlight_Whisper

Maces now grant 825/1650 Armor Penetration per mace, rather than ignoring 5/10% of the target’s Physical Resistance.

Maces also felt too punishing and awkward as they became weaker the more you reduced your target’s Resistances, so we moved to a flat bonus instead.

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Minor mangle : Reduces target's max health by 10%.



Minor mangle has same problem as old maces and now they put it on something else without fixing it.

Urzigurumash

I think their comment meant the more you reduced resistances - from sources other than Maces - the Mace debuff became weaker. Is that right? So since Pulsar is the one and only way to reduce Max Health, this same effect doesn't happen with Minor Mangle. Does that sound right?

Anyhow when do we get Major Mangle?

Starlight_Whisper

Urzigurumash wrote: »

I think their comment meant the more you reduced resistances - from sources other than Maces - the Mace debuff became weaker. Is that right? So since Pulsar is the one and only way to reduce Max Health, this same effect doesn't happen with Minor Mangle. Does that sound right?

Anyhow when do we get Major Mangle?

Minor mangle debuff because weaker after time too. It's from plusar a skill. Also next patch from bleed

Urzigurumash

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

Minor mangle debuff because weaker after time too. It's from plusar a skill. Also next patch from bleed

Nice, I forgot about that new bleed. Doesn't Mangle just reduce their Max Health, not their Current Health?

relentless_turnip

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

Urzigurumash wrote: »

I think their comment meant the more you reduced resistances - from sources other than Maces - the Mace debuff became weaker. Is that right? So since Pulsar is the one and only way to reduce Max Health, this same effect doesn't happen with Minor Mangle. Does that sound right?

Anyhow when do we get Major Mangle?

Minor mangle debuff because weaker after time too. It's from plusar a skill. Also next patch from bleed

I don't think bleed causes minor mangle next patch. They called it haemorrhage a new status effect which they described as a dot slightly weaker than burning.

Urzigurumash

relentless_turnip wrote: »

I don't think bleed causes minor mangle next patch. They called it haemorrhage a new status effect which they described as a dot slightly weaker than burning.

According to the 6.3.0 notes it also applies Minor Mangle for the duration of Hemorrhaging.

relentless_turnip

Urzigurumash wrote: »

relentless_turnip wrote: »

I don't think bleed causes minor mangle next patch. They called it haemorrhage a new status effect which they described as a dot slightly weaker than burning.

According to the 6.3.0 notes it also applies Minor Mangle for the duration of Hemorrhaging.

You are right I just reread it. Probably useful given how high health will be something that probably continues.

karekiz

WTB new Mace passive:

Deal damage decrease targets armor by X amount.

JoSePHRiNG

Urzigurumash wrote: »

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

Minor mangle debuff because weaker after time too. It's from plusar a skill. Also next patch from bleed

Nice, I forgot about that new bleed. Doesn't Mangle just reduce their Max Health, not their Current Health?

It is "max health" and yes, the only way to get it from Pulsar. But in PTS also from Bleed Status effect.