Sorc healer, no bar space for flex skills.

hcbigdogdoghc

Right now my sorc healer is using:

Front bar: combat prayer, crystal frags, liquid lightning, radiating regeneration (or illustrious healing), matriarch

Back bar: Ele drain, energy orb, power surge, blockade, matriarch

Problem is if I want the shield for minor intellect, use purge or any other flex I just don't have the space, I have no clue what to remove from my bar.

Any advice?

Krevad

Drop Matriarch or have someone else Ele Drain instead.

AcadianPaladin

Looking at your current bars, I'd drop frags in favor of heavy attacks (also allows you to trade some mag regen for more spell damage or crit). When my sorc is healing, you'd have to pry matriarch from her cold dead bars though. What a joy it is to have a huge burst heal that requires no aiming, reaches out to 28m and is instantly available on both bars. Seriously, without matriarch, just use another class to heal with.

hcbigdogdoghc

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Looking at your current bars, I'd drop frags in favor of heavy attacks (also allows you to trade some mag regen for more spell damage or crit). When my sorc is healing, you'd have to pry matriarch from her cold dead bars though. What a joy it is to have a huge burst heal that requires no aiming, reaches out to 28m and is instantly available on both bars. Seriously, without matriarch, just use another class to heal with.

What about minor prophecy? Need a skill to proc that

hexnotic

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Looking at your current bars, I'd drop frags in favor of heavy attacks (also allows you to trade some mag regen for more spell damage or crit). When my sorc is healing, you'd have to pry matriarch from her cold dead bars though. What a joy it is to have a huge burst heal that requires no aiming, reaches out to 28m and is instantly available on both bars. Seriously, without matriarch, just use another class to heal with.

What about minor prophecy? Need a skill to proc that

liquid lightning and frags aren’t necessary for a healer build. i personally do not worry about giving my group the prophecy buff unless we’re doing content where using the healing morph of negate field can be useful. i’d much prefer to be able to use both radiating regen plus healing springs at the same time, both of those hots used in tandem is so important. oh and sometimes in raid groups you will have another sorc dps that can provide prophecy, so keep an eye out for that.

if you give up those two skills that i mentioned then you can permanently have empowered ward on your bar, with another slot for flexing. if you decide to use your flex spot for the frags then you can give your group the prophecy buff, but that buff isn’t going to change things too much.

Mindcr0w

Krevad wrote: »

Drop Matriarch or have someone else Ele Drain instead.

Don't use one of the best burst heals in the game on an already less than meta healer?

hcbigdogdoghc

hexnotic wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Looking at your current bars, I'd drop frags in favor of heavy attacks (also allows you to trade some mag regen for more spell damage or crit). When my sorc is healing, you'd have to pry matriarch from her cold dead bars though. What a joy it is to have a huge burst heal that requires no aiming, reaches out to 28m and is instantly available on both bars. Seriously, without matriarch, just use another class to heal with.

What about minor prophecy? Need a skill to proc that

liquid lightning and frags aren’t necessary for a healer build. i personally do not worry about giving my group the prophecy buff unless we’re doing content where using the healing morph of negate field can be useful. i’d much prefer to be able to use both radiating regen plus healing springs at the same time, both of those hots used in tandem is so important. oh and sometimes in raid groups you will have another sorc dps that can provide prophecy, so keep an eye out for that.

if you give up those two skills that i mentioned then you can permanently have empowered ward on your bar, with another slot for flexing. if you decide to use your flex spot for the frags then you can give your group the prophecy buff, but that buff isn’t going to change things too much.

But without liquid lightning the only synergy I'm providing is the orb......

GreenHere

This is why I've always felt that summons should be long-duration skills, and not permanent things that require double-barring. Taking up a slot on both bars to use effectively is... well, it's stupid. It's bad design, and I never liked it.

Having your pet summoned for, I don't know, 90 seconds or so per cast would eliminate this problem while simultaneously fixing the annoyance of having inconsiderate players running around in towns with their Matriarchs flapping in my face constantly.

Personally I've never liked the proc mechanic of Frags. Maybe try Daedric Tomb? I use it on my MagSorc for damage, in lieu of Frags. It's ranged, instant, and can Stun (or was it Immobilize?) minor enemies. Decent damage, too (enemies often trigger multiple/all mines at once). It's expensive, though; luckily you only "need" it once every 20 seconds.



Also, I just want to say, I like the way you think @hcbigdogdoghc . You're going out of your way to provide an extra synergy with LL and trying to offer your unique Minor buff to your group!

I salute you for it! o7

xNepo

What about minor prophecy? Need a skill to proc that[/quote]

Dark conversion helps with sustain as well

Starlight_Whisper

xNepo wrote: »

What about minor prophecy? Need a skill to proc that

Dark conversion helps with sustain as well[/quote]

That nasty cast time makes moving between bars an horrible experience not to mention if you need to like dodge or block in between it.

Starlight_Whisper

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Right now my sorc healer is using:

Front bar: combat prayer, crystal frags, liquid lightning, radiating regeneration (or illustrious healing), matriarch

Back bar: Ele drain, energy orb, power surge, blockade, matriarch

Problem is if I want the shield for minor intellect, use purge or any other flex I just don't have the space, I have no clue what to remove from my bar.

Any advice?

Disclaimer: Sorc Healer deserves love with Twilight

Think content first of all

Why do you need blockade in trials? Unless it's hrc or split on AA then it's unlikely you do, because tanks or dps will have it. Now in dungeons sure you would defiently need it as only 4 of yah.

Sorc next to nightblade is most popular dps class in game. You got to be unlucky to need liquid lighting. Now then I want to point out that they finally putting nail in tanks with Alkoash next patch too so... again unnecessary

Elemental drain - only one of you needs to use it and with next patch maybe neither do.

Pick an aoe healing for dungeons - Illustrious, or power surge

Raditing - we got no heal over time like ever other class so keep it.

Empowered Ward is less then Warden Heal that gives stamina and magicka regain... so why use it in trials and unless dying unnecessary in dungeons.

Here's my dungeon setup

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT
Flex - Crushing
orbs
twilight
Blockade
Elemental Drain. -

*Note now, lets say everyone it's damage impact then you can swap crystal frags and/or crushing for altar, bone surge, power surge

---

Trials (next patch!)

Flex - Altar/Quick Siphon
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
orbs
twilight
Power Surge
Elemental Drain or altar - cause magicka steal anyone can do now :O

Dracane

Why would you play Sorcerer healer anyway? Seems a bit pointless?
If I had to change anything; Power Surge. Just use spell power potions for Major Sorcery. Its active component is useless and a noob trap.

The Minor Intellekt of Empowered Ward would make your group happier than a pathetic cooldown heal.
If you happen to have a Magsorc DD in your group, you could also try dropping liquid lightning.

Dracane

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Right now my sorc healer is using:

Front bar: combat prayer, crystal frags, liquid lightning, radiating regeneration (or illustrious healing), matriarch

Back bar: Ele drain, energy orb, power surge, blockade, matriarch

Problem is if I want the shield for minor intellect, use purge or any other flex I just don't have the space, I have no clue what to remove from my bar.

Any advice?

Disclaimer: Sorc Healer deserves love with Twilight

Think content first of all

Why do you need blockade in trials? Unless it's hrc or split on AA then it's unlikely you do, because tanks or dps will have it. Now in dungeons sure you would defiently need it as only 4 of yah.

Sorc next to nightblade is most popular dps class in game. You got to be unlucky to need liquid lighting. Now then I want to point out that they finally putting nail in tanks with Alkoash next patch too so... again unnecessary

Elemental drain - only one of you needs to use it and with next patch maybe neither do.

Pick an aoe healing for dungeons - Illustrious, or power surge

Raditing - we got no heal over time like ever other class so keep it.

Empowered Ward is less then Warden Heal that gives stamina and magicka regain... so why use it in trials and unless dying unnecessary in dungeons.

Here's my dungeon setup

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT
Flex - Crushing
orbs
twilight
Blockade
Elemental Drain. -

*Note now, lets say everyone it's damage impact then you can swap crystal frags and/or crushing for altar, bone surge, power surge

---

Trials (next patch!)

Flex - Altar/Quick Siphon
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
orbs
twilight
Power Surge
Elemental Drain or altar - cause magicka steal anyone can do now :O

The theory craft is strong here. If you would play the class, you would know that crystal fragments do not add 1k penetration. Only the stamina spammable does.

Krevad

Mindcr0w wrote: »

Krevad wrote: »

Drop Matriarch or have someone else Ele Drain instead.

Don't use one of the best burst heals in the game on an already less than meta healer?

It’s the same as dropping Breath of Life or Bursting Vines for content where you don’t need a single/double target heal.

Healing in ESO is pretty standard across all classes and you shouldn’t need to burst heal for most encounters. Just laying down your heal over time abilities healing orb, illustrious, class aoe HoT (power surge in this case) and combat prayering is more than enough to meet the status quo unless there’s a specific heal check like vSS HM tombs or vMGF HM

The only real flavor to healsorc is the minor prophecy (often unnecessary with prevalence of magsorc dps), minor intellect (worse than wardens Enchanted Growth but very important to have to help mag DPS sustain) and the niche access to negate (only useful for certain content for the long duration CC but you’re better off with warhorn most of the time)

Krevad

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Right now my sorc healer is using:

Front bar: combat prayer, crystal frags, liquid lightning, radiating regeneration (or illustrious healing), matriarch

Back bar: Ele drain, energy orb, power surge, blockade, matriarch

Problem is if I want the shield for minor intellect, use purge or any other flex I just don't have the space, I have no clue what to remove from my bar.

Any advice?

Disclaimer: Sorc Healer deserves love with Twilight

Think content first of all

Why do you need blockade in trials? Unless it's hrc or split on AA then it's unlikely you do, because tanks or dps will have it. Now in dungeons sure you would defiently need it as only 4 of yah.

Sorc next to nightblade is most popular dps class in game. You got to be unlucky to need liquid lighting. Now then I want to point out that they finally putting nail in tanks with Alkoash next patch too so... again unnecessary

Elemental drain - only one of you needs to use it and with next patch maybe neither do.

Pick an aoe healing for dungeons - Illustrious, or power surge

Raditing - we got no heal over time like ever other class so keep it.

Empowered Ward is less then Warden Heal that gives stamina and magicka regain... so why use it in trials and unless dying unnecessary in dungeons.

Here's my dungeon setup

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT
Flex - Crushing
orbs
twilight
Blockade
Elemental Drain. -

*Note now, lets say everyone it's damage impact then you can swap crystal frags and/or crushing for altar, bone surge, power surge

---

Trials (next patch!)

Flex - Altar/Quick Siphon
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
orbs
twilight
Power Surge
Elemental Drain or altar - cause magicka steal anyone can do now :O

Blockade is important to proccing/maintaining 100% uptime in your infused backbar enchant whether it’s charged to proc offbalance more often, weakening, crusher or weapon damage.

Joy_Division

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Looking at your current bars, I'd drop frags in favor of heavy attacks (also allows you to trade some mag regen for more spell damage or crit). When my sorc is healing, you'd have to pry matriarch from her cold dead bars though. What a joy it is to have a huge burst heal that requires no aiming, reaches out to 28m and is instantly available on both bars. Seriously, without matriarch, just use another class to heal with.

What about minor prophecy? Need a skill to proc that

Drop Crystal Fragments. If you ran a templar, then you're group wouldn;t have minor prophecy either so don;t sweat it.

jaws343

Dracane wrote: »

Why would you play Sorcerer healer anyway? Seems a bit pointless?
If I had to change anything; Power Surge. Just use spell power potions for Major Sorcery. Its active component is useless and a noob trap.

The Minor Intellekt of Empowered Ward would make your group happier than a pathetic cooldown heal.
If you happen to have a Magsorc DD in your group, you could also try dropping liquid lightning.

Power Surge is a decent AOE passive heal.

Dracane

jaws343 wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Why would you play Sorcerer healer anyway? Seems a bit pointless?
If I had to change anything; Power Surge. Just use spell power potions for Major Sorcery. Its active component is useless and a noob trap.

The Minor Intellekt of Empowered Ward would make your group happier than a pathetic cooldown heal.
If you happen to have a Magsorc DD in your group, you could also try dropping liquid lightning.

Power Surge is a decent AOE passive heal.

Life is too short to waste your time with decent.
Grand is what is needed and if I was a DD, I would find it grand if my healer would support me with 15% more magicka recovery (Empowered Ward) instead of an insignificantly decent heal.

Starlight_Whisper

Dracane wrote: »

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Right now my sorc healer is using:

Front bar: combat prayer, crystal frags, liquid lightning, radiating regeneration (or illustrious healing), matriarch

Back bar: Ele drain, energy orb, power surge, blockade, matriarch

Problem is if I want the shield for minor intellect, use purge or any other flex I just don't have the space, I have no clue what to remove from my bar.

Any advice?

Disclaimer: Sorc Healer deserves love with Twilight

Think content first of all

Why do you need blockade in trials? Unless it's hrc or split on AA then it's unlikely you do, because tanks or dps will have it. Now in dungeons sure you would defiently need it as only 4 of yah.

Sorc next to nightblade is most popular dps class in game. You got to be unlucky to need liquid lighting. Now then I want to point out that they finally putting nail in tanks with Alkoash next patch too so... again unnecessary

Elemental drain - only one of you needs to use it and with next patch maybe neither do.

Pick an aoe healing for dungeons - Illustrious, or power surge

Raditing - we got no heal over time like ever other class so keep it.

Empowered Ward is less then Warden Heal that gives stamina and magicka regain... so why use it in trials and unless dying unnecessary in dungeons.

Here's my dungeon setup

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT
Flex - Crushing
orbs
twilight
Blockade
Elemental Drain. -

*Note now, lets say everyone it's damage impact then you can swap crystal frags and/or crushing for altar, bone surge, power surge

---

Trials (next patch!)

Flex - Altar/Quick Siphon
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
orbs
twilight
Power Surge
Elemental Drain or altar - cause magicka steal anyone can do now :O

The theory craft is strong here. If you would play the class, you would know that crystal fragments do not add 1k penetration. Only the stamina spammable does.

Seriously slight mistake. I just assume they were using one that actually made sense.

Been playing sorc healer way long than most of you.

Starlight_Whisper

Krevad wrote: »

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Right now my sorc healer is using:

Front bar: combat prayer, crystal frags, liquid lightning, radiating regeneration (or illustrious healing), matriarch

Back bar: Ele drain, energy orb, power surge, blockade, matriarch

Problem is if I want the shield for minor intellect, use purge or any other flex I just don't have the space, I have no clue what to remove from my bar.

Any advice?

Disclaimer: Sorc Healer deserves love with Twilight

Think content first of all

Why do you need blockade in trials? Unless it's hrc or split on AA then it's unlikely you do, because tanks or dps will have it. Now in dungeons sure you would defiently need it as only 4 of yah.

Sorc next to nightblade is most popular dps class in game. You got to be unlucky to need liquid lighting. Now then I want to point out that they finally putting nail in tanks with Alkoash next patch too so... again unnecessary

Elemental drain - only one of you needs to use it and with next patch maybe neither do.

Pick an aoe healing for dungeons - Illustrious, or power surge

Raditing - we got no heal over time like ever other class so keep it.

Empowered Ward is less then Warden Heal that gives stamina and magicka regain... so why use it in trials and unless dying unnecessary in dungeons.

Here's my dungeon setup

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT
Flex - Crushing
orbs
twilight
Blockade
Elemental Drain. -

*Note now, lets say everyone it's damage impact then you can swap crystal frags and/or crushing for altar, bone surge, power surge

---

Trials (next patch!)

Flex - Altar/Quick Siphon
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
orbs
twilight
Power Surge
Elemental Drain or altar - cause magicka steal anyone can do now :O

Blockade is important to proccing/maintaining 100% uptime in your infused backbar enchant whether it’s charged to proc offbalance more often, weakening, crusher or weapon damage.

Yeah but likely any staff user is already pricing blockade. Also weakening glyph can proc off heals. Still I see your point here. I should think this over more. Seems I made a mistake.

Starlight_Whisper

Joy_Division wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Looking at your current bars, I'd drop frags in favor of heavy attacks (also allows you to trade some mag regen for more spell damage or crit). When my sorc is healing, you'd have to pry matriarch from her cold dead bars though. What a joy it is to have a huge burst heal that requires no aiming, reaches out to 28m and is instantly available on both bars. Seriously, without matriarch, just use another class to heal with.

What about minor prophecy? Need a skill to proc that

Drop Crystal Fragments. If you ran a templar, then you're group wouldn;t have minor prophecy either so don;t sweat it.

No no minor sorcery is templar thing.As wierd as word choices might sound this is correct

Narvuntien

When they removed the overload bar I respected my Sorc healer because It lost the uniqueness.

FrancisCrawford

Especially with the Minor Berserk nerf, there are a lot of dungeon PUGs in which Combat Prayer has little value.

the1andonlyskwex

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Especially with the Minor Berserk nerf, there are a lot of dungeon PUGs in which Combat Prayer has little value.

Agreed. You're usually better off slotting more damage of your own in a PuG dungeon. It's better to contribute 2k DPS directly than to buff <40k DPS by 5% (especially once you consider the fact that combat prayer may not even reliably hit your DDs if they're running all over the place).

Astrid

Facepalm at some of these comments. Please don’t stop running a skill from the skill tree that provides prophecy or sorc is absolutely redundant.
Also please don’t drop blockade, your enchant needs this and even unstable wall spam on a trash pack does mad damage surprisingly.

Just drop Matriarch, it’s a nice 360 no scope yeet burst but generally not necessary. Springs, combat prayer, orb, radiating, Inner light, Storm atro front bar passively for spell damage and should you wish to drop it on a dds head for major berserk.
Liquid is a flex now that Alkosh is dead and buried so something here to suit your needs - blockade for off balance, dark conversion (prefer this to frags for the most part so you don’t really need to run any sustain just full spell damage as it’s “infinite” sustain itself as long as you’re playing it smart, i think someone did mention it’s a bit of a pain in the arse as the animation needs to be seen through which is true, and use with caution as it also drops your block. If you’re uncomfortable then frags are fine and infinitely more fun. Mines are niche and be mindful they also CC adds - which then makes them CC immune to be chained, not ideal for the tank.), power surge and ele drain with warhorn backbar.

Dracane

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Right now my sorc healer is using:

Front bar: combat prayer, crystal frags, liquid lightning, radiating regeneration (or illustrious healing), matriarch

Back bar: Ele drain, energy orb, power surge, blockade, matriarch

Problem is if I want the shield for minor intellect, use purge or any other flex I just don't have the space, I have no clue what to remove from my bar.

Any advice?

Disclaimer: Sorc Healer deserves love with Twilight

Think content first of all

Why do you need blockade in trials? Unless it's hrc or split on AA then it's unlikely you do, because tanks or dps will have it. Now in dungeons sure you would defiently need it as only 4 of yah.

Sorc next to nightblade is most popular dps class in game. You got to be unlucky to need liquid lighting. Now then I want to point out that they finally putting nail in tanks with Alkoash next patch too so... again unnecessary

Elemental drain - only one of you needs to use it and with next patch maybe neither do.

Pick an aoe healing for dungeons - Illustrious, or power surge

Raditing - we got no heal over time like ever other class so keep it.

Empowered Ward is less then Warden Heal that gives stamina and magicka regain... so why use it in trials and unless dying unnecessary in dungeons.

Here's my dungeon setup

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT
Flex - Crushing
orbs
twilight
Blockade
Elemental Drain. -

*Note now, lets say everyone it's damage impact then you can swap crystal frags and/or crushing for altar, bone surge, power surge

---

Trials (next patch!)

Flex - Altar/Quick Siphon
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
orbs
twilight
Power Surge
Elemental Drain or altar - cause magicka steal anyone can do now :O

The theory craft is strong here. If you would play the class, you would know that crystal fragments do not add 1k penetration. Only the stamina spammable does.

Seriously slight mistake. I just assume they were using one that actually made sense.

Been playing sorc healer way long than most of you.

Not long enough to know that Crystal Fragments does not give penetration.

Starlight_Whisper

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Especially with the Minor Berserk nerf, there are a lot of dungeon PUGs in which Combat Prayer has little value.

What did I miss? When did this happen?

Starlight_Whisper

Dracane wrote: »

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Right now my sorc healer is using:

Front bar: combat prayer, crystal frags, liquid lightning, radiating regeneration (or illustrious healing), matriarch

Back bar: Ele drain, energy orb, power surge, blockade, matriarch

Problem is if I want the shield for minor intellect, use purge or any other flex I just don't have the space, I have no clue what to remove from my bar.

Any advice?

Disclaimer: Sorc Healer deserves love with Twilight

Think content first of all

Why do you need blockade in trials? Unless it's hrc or split on AA then it's unlikely you do, because tanks or dps will have it. Now in dungeons sure you would defiently need it as only 4 of yah.

Sorc next to nightblade is most popular dps class in game. You got to be unlucky to need liquid lighting. Now then I want to point out that they finally putting nail in tanks with Alkoash next patch too so... again unnecessary

Elemental drain - only one of you needs to use it and with next patch maybe neither do.

Pick an aoe healing for dungeons - Illustrious, or power surge

Raditing - we got no heal over time like ever other class so keep it.

Empowered Ward is less then Warden Heal that gives stamina and magicka regain... so why use it in trials and unless dying unnecessary in dungeons.

Here's my dungeon setup

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT
Flex - Crushing
orbs
twilight
Blockade
Elemental Drain. -

*Note now, lets say everyone it's damage impact then you can swap crystal frags and/or crushing for altar, bone surge, power surge

---

Trials (next patch!)

Flex - Altar/Quick Siphon
Illustrious Healing
Twilight
Combat prayer
Radiating Regain

Bar 2
tT

Crystal Frags - cause 1k pen is dungeons is nice
orbs
twilight
Power Surge
Elemental Drain or altar - cause magicka steal anyone can do now :O

The theory craft is strong here. If you would play the class, you would know that crystal fragments do not add 1k penetration. Only the stamina spammable does.

Seriously slight mistake. I just assume they were using one that actually made sense.

Been playing sorc healer way long than most of you.

Not long enough to know that Crystal Fragments does not give penetration.

You are just trolly. You don't even want people playing sorcerer healer

Starlight_Whisper

Astrid wrote: »

Facepalm at some of these comments. Please don’t stop running a skill from the skill tree that provides prophecy or sorc is absolutely redundant.
Also please don’t drop blockade, your enchant needs this and even unstable wall spam on a trash pack does mad damage surprisingly.

Just drop Matriarch, it’s a nice 360 no scope yeet burst but generally not necessary. Springs, combat prayer, orb, radiating, Inner light, Storm atro front bar passively for spell damage and should you wish to drop it on a dds head for major berserk.
Liquid is a flex now that Alkosh is dead and buried so something here to suit your needs - blockade for off balance, dark conversion (prefer this to frags for the most part so you don’t really need to run any sustain just full spell damage as it’s “infinite” sustain itself as long as you’re playing it smart, i think someone did mention it’s a bit of a pain in the arse as the animation needs to be seen through which is true, and use with caution as it also drops your block. If you’re uncomfortable then frags are fine and infinitely more fun. Mines are niche and be mindful they also CC adds - which then makes them CC immune to be chained, not ideal for the tank.), power surge and ele drain with warhorn backbar.

Not all enchants require damage to proc. I agree with keeping minor sorcery though...with crystal weapon not frags...

GreenHere

+1 more vote for dropping the Matriarch entirely. As said multiple times before, it's just a burst heal that you shouldn't really need to rely on in most situations, and that's TWO bar slots gained right there. Not to mention, the damn things are obnoxious as heck. Flappin and zappin, bein all up in my camera and ****. Hate em. Hate em. You shouldn't need it, and many of us don't want it.

Minor Sorcery and the Minor Intellect (from Empowered Ward) are buffs worth offering to magicka groups, imo. And the synergy from Lightning Splash is nice too, despite Alkosh being dethroned and all; just having a synergy to do is useful for everyone, bonus damage is always good, and the stats from having it slotted don't hurt you either. Groups can get by fine without any of these, but they're kind of what little flavor a Sorcerer has to offer (outside of terrible pets!) as far as I can tell. Why neglect your rare/unique buffs? I don't agree with advice to ignore them.

I'm not claiming to be super knowledgeable about Healsorcs here; but I can tell you that if I got matched with one who offered just those three things (in addition to the normal healing/buff stuff, obviously) -- without annoying me with their flappy purple idiot -- I'd be both impressed and appreciative. (If I were a magicka spec, anyway...) It feels rare to come across Sorcs who don't crutch on those atrocious, contemptible Daedric pets.

The hard part about all this is: If a regular (decent) magSorc is in the group, a lot or all of your unique offerings are immediately nullified. That sucks. I guess the same can kind of be said about any healer, but it seems like your chances of having overlap with common magSorcs is just plain higher.


I'm not biased in any way, obviously, but yeah; Drop the Matriarch, gain two slots!

AcadianPaladin

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Especially with the Minor Berserk nerf, there are a lot of dungeon PUGs in which Combat Prayer has little value.

What did I miss? When did this happen?

An update or two ago, minor berserk was nerfed from +8% damage to +5% damage. Sad day for Slimecraw and Combat Prayer. I dumped Prayer for the other nerf - lasts much longer, still has the defensive buff, covers a larger area and packs a much stronger heal - actually a very good burst heal so my healplar no longer needs BoL.