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We need nerf crystal shard

ZeroDPS
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Hey everybody, Im old school player, [snip] We need crystal shard to be nerfed! you may ask why, because snipe will get again nerfed for 20%+ and this is not the first time!!! today I died from crustal shard 4 times in pvp, so we need to nerf it(yes yes I understand what you may think... to be honest I'm with you guys), but I dont give any [snip] about that, if ZOS likes to nerf everything they MUST nerf also crystal shard, snipe already got nerfed many times. Another thing, IMHO stamina players MUST do more dps than mag players, both pve/pvp wise, because stamina players melee and standing in the middle of aoe and doing impossible to survive and do damage plus they dont have any shields!
So once again nerf pls crystal shard its doing very high damage @ZOS_GinaBruno

[Edited to remove Profanity and Baiting]
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on February 6, 2021 1:21PM
  • Banana
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    I'd like it to be an instant cast please.
  • Jierdanit
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    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    Hey everybody, Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob! We need crystal shard to be nerfed! you may ask why, because snipe will get again nerfed for 20%+ and this is not the first time!!! today I died from crustal shard 4 times in pvp, so we need to nerf it(yes yes I understand what you may think... to be honest I'm with you guys), but I dont give any sh.it about that, if ZOS likes to nerf everything they MUST nerf also crystal shard, snipe already got nerfed many times. Another thing, IMHO stamina players MUST do more dps than mag players, both pve/pvp wise, because stamina players melee and standing in the middle of aoe and doing impossible to survive and do damage plus they dont have any shields!
    So once again nerf pls crystal shard its doing very high damage @ZOS_GinaBruno

    No.

    The nerf to snipe is good, instead of ganking please just actually start fighting for once.

    Also, if you somehow didnt notice, Crystal Frags has been nerfed numerous times and clearly does not need another nerf, while snipe actually didnt get changed as much as Frags.

    And to the second part, stamina already does more damage than mag, while still having the overall better defense.

    Pretty much all of what you said there makes me think that
    Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob!
    fits quite well as more experienced players are rarely going to complain about those things.
    PC/EU, StamSorc Main
  • ThorianB
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    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    Hey everybody, Im old school player, [snip] We need crystal shard to be nerfed! you may ask why, because snipe will get again nerfed for 20%+ and this is not the first time!!! today I died from crustal shard 4 times in pvp, so we need to nerf it(yes yes I understand what you may think... to be honest I'm with you guys), but I dont give any [snip] about that, if ZOS likes to nerf everything they MUST nerf also crystal shard, snipe already got nerfed many times. Another thing, IMHO stamina players MUST do more dps than mag players, both pve/pvp wise, because stamina players melee and standing in the middle of aoe and doing impossible to survive and do damage plus they dont have any shields!
    So once again nerf pls crystal shard its doing very high damage @ZOS_GinaBruno

    [Edited to remove Profanity and Baiting]

    No thank you.
  • ZeroDPS
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    Jierdanit wrote: »
    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    Hey everybody, Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob! We need crystal shard to be nerfed! you may ask why, because snipe will get again nerfed for 20%+ and this is not the first time!!! today I died from crustal shard 4 times in pvp, so we need to nerf it(yes yes I understand what you may think... to be honest I'm with you guys), but I dont give any sh.it about that, if ZOS likes to nerf everything they MUST nerf also crystal shard, snipe already got nerfed many times. Another thing, IMHO stamina players MUST do more dps than mag players, both pve/pvp wise, because stamina players melee and standing in the middle of aoe and doing impossible to survive and do damage plus they dont have any shields!
    So once again nerf pls crystal shard its doing very high damage @ZOS_GinaBruno

    No.

    The nerf to snipe is good, instead of ganking please just actually start fighting for once.

    Also, if you somehow didnt notice, Crystal Frags has been nerfed numerous times and clearly does not need another nerf, while snipe actually didnt get changed as much as Frags.

    And to the second part, stamina already does more damage than mag, while still having the overall better defense.

    Pretty much all of what you said there makes me think that
    Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob!
    fits quite well as more experienced players are rarely going to complain about those things.

    you are wrong, now mag > stam, and shards must be nerfed!
  • Jierdanit
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    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    Jierdanit wrote: »
    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    Hey everybody, Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob! We need crystal shard to be nerfed! you may ask why, because snipe will get again nerfed for 20%+ and this is not the first time!!! today I died from crustal shard 4 times in pvp, so we need to nerf it(yes yes I understand what you may think... to be honest I'm with you guys), but I dont give any sh.it about that, if ZOS likes to nerf everything they MUST nerf also crystal shard, snipe already got nerfed many times. Another thing, IMHO stamina players MUST do more dps than mag players, both pve/pvp wise, because stamina players melee and standing in the middle of aoe and doing impossible to survive and do damage plus they dont have any shields!
    So once again nerf pls crystal shard its doing very high damage @ZOS_GinaBruno

    No.

    The nerf to snipe is good, instead of ganking please just actually start fighting for once.

    Also, if you somehow didnt notice, Crystal Frags has been nerfed numerous times and clearly does not need another nerf, while snipe actually didnt get changed as much as Frags.

    And to the second part, stamina already does more damage than mag, while still having the overall better defense.

    Pretty much all of what you said there makes me think that
    Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob!
    fits quite well as more experienced players are rarely going to complain about those things.

    you are wrong, now mag > stam, and shards must be nerfed!

    Where do you see mag above stam (at least pvp wise)?

    Also no shards are absolutely fine.
    PC/EU, StamSorc Main
  • Araneae6537
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    Their name gives them away — anything which does more than Zero DPS must be nerfed, clearly! ;)
  • AMeanOne
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    Nerf snipe more please.
  • Dracane
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    Crystal shard frequently gets minor nerfs. Last patch, its damage was reduced a bit and the coming patch will reduce it a bit again.

    I constantly get killed by shalks in roll dodge, so please nerf it...
    Seriously, I am happy when people manage to kill with their abilities rather than procs. We should not discourage this further.
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    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

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  • Mojmir
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    In pvp? Sure, but we know how that turns out for pve.
  • ealdwin
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    Crystal Shard and Snipe on the pts currently have the same cast time (0.8s) and the same damage at base (2404 IIRC). This was tested on a character which was butt naked with absolutely no CP allocated of passives unlocked. The unique proc of Frags is again, a unique proc, that requires a condition to be met before it is available.

    There is absolutely zero reason at all for either the base ability or the special proc version of it to be nerfed, whatsoever.
  • Mindcr0w
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    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    today I died from crustal shard 4 times in pvp, so we need to nerf it

    Four times?!?

    Four whole times?!?

    Mother of god. I've never heard such definitive proof of an ability being absolutely out of control.

    Please ZOS nerf sorcs. For the children.
  • ealdwin
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    Mindcr0w wrote: »
    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    today I died from crustal shard 4 times in pvp, so we need to nerf it

    Four times?!?

    Four whole times?!?

    Mother of god. I've never heard such definitive proof of an ability being absolutely out of control.

    Please ZOS nerf sorcs. For the children.

    For the children.
  • Merllow
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    you just need to look at the screen and do a rolldodge, the crystalphrag does 0 damage in 70% of cases
  • Suna_Ye_Sunnabe
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    "I died to it, therefore nerf it." Lol... You can't really be asking for a sorc nerf right now, in 2021? Dear oh dear. You stam bois have it easy mode in pvp as it is anyway, and magsorcs are one of the only things able to compete. We mustn't have that, lol.
    Edited by Suna_Ye_Sunnabe on February 6, 2021 11:26PM
    Angua Anyammis Ae Sunna
  • Scardan
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    Snipe is going to buffed. You will weave more la attacks with, it is + DPS.
    Let's be extremely precise in our use of terms.
  • JinMori
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    I would like shards being instyant cast, so now it can work as a proper spammable/proc.
  • Sinolai
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    Then I have good news for you! Frag is getting yet another nerf on PTS.
  • Ryuvain
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    Frags is still bugged. You cast it several times and it gets delayed until you manually stop weaving. It's seriously annoying.
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  • ZeroDPS
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    Ryuvain wrote: »
    Frags is still bugged. You cast it several times and it gets delayed until you manually stop weaving. It's seriously annoying.

    you need to thank ZOS for GCD! shame on you
  • Zodi53
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    Crystal frags has been a joke for years! So many times I get hit by it in pvp for nearly 80% of my health. If snipe gets nerfed then Crystal frags is definitely more deserving of a nerf. Mage scrolls online continues.
  • QuebraRegra
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    Jierdanit wrote: »
    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    Hey everybody, Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob! We need crystal shard to be nerfed! you may ask why, because snipe will get again nerfed for 20%+ and this is not the first time!!! today I died from crustal shard 4 times in pvp, so we need to nerf it(yes yes I understand what you may think... to be honest I'm with you guys), but I dont give any sh.it about that, if ZOS likes to nerf everything they MUST nerf also crystal shard, snipe already got nerfed many times. Another thing, IMHO stamina players MUST do more dps than mag players, both pve/pvp wise, because stamina players melee and standing in the middle of aoe and doing impossible to survive and do damage plus they dont have any shields!
    So once again nerf pls crystal shard its doing very high damage @ZOS_GinaBruno

    No.

    The nerf to snipe is good, instead of ganking please just actually start fighting for once.

    Also, if you somehow didnt notice, Crystal Frags has been nerfed numerous times and clearly does not need another nerf, while snipe actually didnt get changed as much as Frags.

    And to the second part, stamina already does more damage than mag, while still having the overall better defense.

    Pretty much all of what you said there makes me think that
    Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob!
    fits quite well as more experienced players are rarely going to complain about those things.

    BALANCE PVE/PVp entirely separately!!!! Call for all the PVP nerfs you can dream of... enjoi.
  • techyeshic
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    No. It actually needs a proc set to trigger off of it so sorcs stand there spamming hard cast from the back hoping for a proc to time up just right.
  • olsborg
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    Lets buff dizzy swing while we're at it making "great" suggestions.

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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    I am not sure any skill in ESO has been hit with the nerf hammer on more separate occasions than crystal frags. If anything, this skill could use a small buff, or just reworked as the second morph is virtually unused.

    Also, Stam is more damage in both PVE and PVP. Sorry a sorc killed you a few times, but your premise is faulty. Mag sorcs arent even close to the top of the food chain in the current meta. Stamina is stronger than magic in PVP.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on February 8, 2021 7:28PM
  • GrimTheReaper45
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    A few big differences.

    Crystal frag needs to proc for full damage, snipe doesnt.
    Crystal frag needs to be in combat to proc, snipe doesnt. We cant sit around in stealth waiting for someone to come around and gank them.
    Crystal frag is not a weapon skill line, snipe is. Meaning crystal frag cant proc trap. Crystal frag lost its stun years ago snipe has a stun if your using trap poisions
  • Jierdanit
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    Jierdanit wrote: »
    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    Hey everybody, Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob! We need crystal shard to be nerfed! you may ask why, because snipe will get again nerfed for 20%+ and this is not the first time!!! today I died from crustal shard 4 times in pvp, so we need to nerf it(yes yes I understand what you may think... to be honest I'm with you guys), but I dont give any sh.it about that, if ZOS likes to nerf everything they MUST nerf also crystal shard, snipe already got nerfed many times. Another thing, IMHO stamina players MUST do more dps than mag players, both pve/pvp wise, because stamina players melee and standing in the middle of aoe and doing impossible to survive and do damage plus they dont have any shields!
    So once again nerf pls crystal shard its doing very high damage @ZOS_GinaBruno

    No.

    The nerf to snipe is good, instead of ganking please just actually start fighting for once.

    Also, if you somehow didnt notice, Crystal Frags has been nerfed numerous times and clearly does not need another nerf, while snipe actually didnt get changed as much as Frags.

    And to the second part, stamina already does more damage than mag, while still having the overall better defense.

    Pretty much all of what you said there makes me think that
    Im old school player, BUT now will complain like last noob!
    fits quite well as more experienced players are rarely going to complain about those things.

    BALANCE PVE/PVp entirely separately!!!! Call for all the PVP nerfs you can dream of... enjoi.

    I asked for no other nerfs though lol.
    PC/EU, StamSorc Main
  • Maggusemm
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    Crystal FRagments are ridiculous low damage against nightblade spectral bow. So first nerf Nightblade spectral bow by 50%.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Maggusemm wrote: »
    Crystal FRagments are ridiculous low damage against nightblade spectral bow. So first nerf Nightblade spectral bow by 50%.

    I am not calling for a nerf Merciless Resolve and the spectral bow proc, but it is certainly the best skill to directly compare crystal frags to. Frags is certainly easier to use, but its damage is laughable compared to the bow proc. Any decent sorc would trade Frags for Merciless in a heartbeat.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on February 9, 2021 9:54PM
  • djfriesenjb16_ESO
    Instead of a nerf, how about a buff? Crystal shard needs a morph called Crystal beam. Turn the shard launch into a channelled beam strike that does the same damage, but also roots you, incased in crystal, with an additional DoT. Sounds like a good idea to me!
  • Dracane
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    Maggusemm wrote: »
    Crystal FRagments are ridiculous low damage against nightblade spectral bow. So first nerf Nightblade spectral bow by 50%.

    Any decent sorc would trade Frags for Merciless in a heartbeat.

    I definately would once it gets its minimum travel time fixed.
    It may be a unpopular opinion, though I also think crystal fragments could use a buff for once. Damage constantly gets reduced. We lost 3% just in the last 2 patches. Who knows when another % is taken and then another.
    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

    My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos
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