Leyawiin comparison (TESO - TES IV)

MaisonNaevius

ArchMikem

So Lyris suggested after our escapades in the Reach that I go find someone to warm my bed. Recommend any, establishments?

Luke_Flamesword

They did it so good, that is even more painfull that we won't see Skingrad (my favourite Cyrodill city) this time

KovalskyNestor

I'm so glad we get to revisit Leyawiin.. hopefully Bravil too sometimes in the future.

Aptonoth

ArchMikem wrote: »

So Lyris suggested after our escapades in the Reach that I go find someone to warm my bed. Recommend any, establishments?

I really hope they let us romance Valaste from the mages guild quest lines if we save her. Come on folks Valaste for companion 2022 campaign trail here we go!

MaisonNaevius

Many of us suffer for Skingrad. But Skingrad will come back stronger and without Dagon to destroy everything in his path. I pray for a politico-religious intrigue like Orsinium. The potential is great there.
I just hope I'll be healthy when Skingrad goes out with Sutch and Sarchal.


This tower will not be missed by anyone.

ESO makes attractive the areas that are not attractive in solo TES.

Nairinhe

ArchMikem wrote: »

So Lyris suggested after our escapades in the Reach that I go find someone to warm my bed. Recommend any, establishments?

Just in case, maybe anyone happens to know... What's, uhm, a normal body temperature of a vampire? For purely, purely scientific purposes. Yeah. Science. Scholarly research.

Edit to add: all these screenshots made me want to play Oblivion again. Maybe even finally do the main quest for a change

Fata1moose

It has water gates on both sides now but a ship still couldn't get through without taking down masts lol. Even then I wonder if there's some low clearance bridge within the city that prevents the ship from getting to the other water gate.

FinneganFroth

Love these comparisons. Great stuff.

Fata1moose

Maki2859 wrote: »

ESO makes attractive the areas that are not attractive in solo TES.

Yup! Of course they have the benefit of better technology and resources than 2006 and they get to build on and improve what's already there as opposed from starting from scratch. Really like their take on Leyawiin (ships actually being able to sale to the Imperial Isle pending).

MaisonNaevius

Blackwood but also the Reach. These are two areas that ESO have made attractive with great interest.

Syldras

ArchMikem wrote: »

So Lyris suggested after our escapades in the Reach that I go find someone to warm my bed. Recommend any, establishments?

That was a shocking moment. I was like: What?! In this stinking city?! Madam, don't you see we're surrounded by humans here?!

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Fata1moose wrote: »

It has water gates on both sides now but a ship still couldn't get through without taking down masts lol. Even then I wonder if there's some low clearance bridge within the city that prevents the ship from getting to the other water gate.

This is what bothers me. Leyawiin lies at the mouth of the Niben river. It is the mouth of the Niben River. Yet there is no massive river running through/past with enough clearance for ships to pass.

This is why I hoped they wouldn't copy Oblivion's so much and more go after some concept art of the city or a combination, which makes a lot more sense.

How is it supposed to be one of the most trafficked rivers in Tamriel when ships can't pass Leyawiin?!

MaisonNaevius

I imagine that we will be able to have a foot in the Niben river... That it will not be deep to cross it more easily. lol

ArchMikem

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Fata1moose wrote: »

It has water gates on both sides now but a ship still couldn't get through without taking down masts lol. Even then I wonder if there's some low clearance bridge within the city that prevents the ship from getting to the other water gate.

This is what bothers me. Leyawiin lies at the mouth of the Niben river. It is the mouth of the Niben River. Yet there is no massive river running through/past with enough clearance for ships to pass.

This is why I hoped they wouldn't copy Oblivion's so much and more go after some concept art of the city or a combination, which makes a lot more sense.

How is it supposed to be one of the most trafficked rivers in Tamriel when ships can't pass Leyawiin?!

Point is for the river to be large enough to realistically fit passing ships the city itself would need to be massive in ESO's scale, if it encompasses both banks. In the end the player just hast to fantasize the sight cause the Devs have to make due with the performance restrictions.

Trust me though I wish the player hubs were huge. I'd even be happy if an Adventure zone was nothing but a city.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

So how do ships get into Topal Bay from the Imperial Isle given Leyawiin is in the way?

In that image at the top, how do you ships get through there when their are rocks there?

ealdwin

Could that possible be the Ancestral Akaviri motif in the 10th image? It's certainly Akaviri, but looks a bit tidier and better than the original. Could just be the art, but it gives hope that Blackwood may be where we finally see the availability of the Ancestral Breton, Imperial, and Akaviri motifs that were datamined quite a while ago.

Or we'll be forced to be envious of the npcs running around wearing them.

Lugaldu

Nairinhe wrote: »

Just in case, maybe anyone happens to know... What's, uhm, a normal body temperature of a vampire? For purely, purely scientific purposes. Yeah. Science. Scholarly research.

A very good question. It probably depends on when the last meal was..

Syldras

Lugaldu wrote: »

Nairinhe wrote: »

Just in case, maybe anyone happens to know... What's, uhm, a normal body temperature of a vampire? For purely, purely scientific purposes. Yeah. Science. Scholarly research.

A very good question. It probably depends on when the last meal was..

I think it depends on the environment.
Like, when you set the vampire on fire, he would probably develop a not-quite-so-cold temperature.
Not recommended to do that in bed, though.

Lugaldu

So better to keep him away from the open fire and not have a fireplace next to the bed.

Syldras

Lugaldu wrote: »

So better to keep him away from the open fire and not have a fireplace next to the bed.

I guess there are better methods to warm a vampire up when needed anyway.

Lugaldu

The vampire probably doesn't care what temperature he is anyway. Everything else is only of interest to non-dead heroes who need him for the romancing.

MaisonNaevius

ealdwin wrote: »

Could that possible be the Ancestral Akaviri motif in the 10th image?

Yes it is the Ancestral Akaviri motif. I had spotted a Fighters Guild NPC in Markarth wearing it.

Cirantille

I want it so much, I want that now

Michae

Thanks! Leyawiin was really botched in Oblivion. It had nice vibe, something reminding me of New Orleans with it's colorful wooden houses and swamp trees, but the lack of port or even the passage for the river was really bad. ESO looks better, there's a port and the river actually connects to the sea but the bridge seems really low. Maybe if they swapped it for a drawbridge?

Syldras

Lugaldu wrote: »

The vampire probably doesn't care what temperature he is anyway. Everything else is only of interest to non-dead heroes who need him for the romancing.

It's a strange thing anyway. If you're into "romancing" the undead, you shouldn't fear the cold.

RazielSR

To me...the best looking cities from ESO design team are the ones from Cyrodiil. Anvil and Kvatch are superb. Now I see that Leyawiin too. Looks very very good.
Let's hope to see more Cyrodiil cities in the future.

Elvenheart

Syldras wrote: »

Lugaldu wrote: »

The vampire probably doesn't care what temperature he is anyway. Everything else is only of interest to non-dead heroes who need him for the romancing.

It's a strange thing anyway. If you're into "romancing" the undead, you shouldn't fear the cold.

The cold never bothered me anyway.

Lugaldu

Well, we came far from Leyawiin to romances with undead ... So: I think the pictures of Leyawiin look very promising, much more friendly than the musty, wet Leyawinn in TES IV.

Nairinhe

Lugaldu wrote: »

The vampire probably doesn't care what temperature he is anyway. Everything else is only of interest to non-dead heroes who need him for the romancing.

I'd disagree. If they don't have any warmth of their own, they could turn into icicle in a colder environment. Quite a solid reason to care about temperature.

Lugaldu

Nairinhe wrote: »

I'd disagree. If they don't have any warmth of their own, they could turn into icicle in a colder environment. Quite a solid reason to care about temperature.

That would be another reason for the need of blood, if my assumption is correct and the body temperature depends on it.