ZOS: Do you want to reduce damage around 30-35%?

Jodynn

The new CP system and crit reductions effectively do that from my testing.

Is this intentional?

virtus753

Testing is broken.

Resistance debuffs do not work. Several key CP nodes do not work.

Let them fix it before we start making judgments.

rnklippel

Yes. So you can get those 30% back with your companions. Pre-order now for $40 to get them! Plenty more options later in the crown store!

Just kidding, they wouldn't do that.

virtus753

rnklippel wrote: »

Yes. So you can get those 30% back with your companions. Pre-order now for $40 to get them! Plenty more options later in the crown store!

Just kidding, they wouldn't do that.

They overcharged me! Oh wait, that node doesn’t work either...

preevious

Indeed. Don't worry. I lost 10% or so, but the cp related to crit don't work, so, I didn't even lost that much.

Right know, breach aren't working, and your crits are artificially low.

Next itération of the pts, It'll be quite better.

zvavi

it is only 10% on 810 cp, not that much.

Jodynn

Didn't realize the trial dummy was broken that's... dumb.

Jerkica

My bow-bow toon lost 38% dps. Any minor benefit to light attack weave from the change to snipe is very much overshadowed by the reduction in damage done by snipe. I went from around 80k dps on live to 50k dps on PTS.

virtus753

Jerkica wrote: »

My bow-bow toon lost 38% dps. Any minor benefit to light attack weave from the change to snipe is very much overshadowed by the reduction in damage done by snipe. I went from around 80k dps on live to 50k dps on PTS.

And Snipe’s damage loss is very much overshadowed by the fact that the trial dummy and certain CP nodes are not functioning properly. You may still be in for a damage loss, but this week’s numbers are not a valid preview.

merpins

PTS is currently broken. If you compare the tooltips and the totals that you receive from the new skills with the old skills and power, you definitely won't break even. But I can't see a widespread damage drop of more than 15%, with it being more likely to be around 5% to 10% across the board (with exceptions for certain builds). I posted a thread in the forum a couple days ago on it: it's not perfect, when comparing numbers and not testing them, but it's highly unlikely that it's such a huge drop, and that will probably be reflected when ZoS decides to patch the PTS so all the skills and debuffs and buffs work (which do not at the moment).

Kurat

MovesLikeJaguar wrote: »

PTS is currently broken. If you compare the tooltips and the totals that you receive from the new skills with the old skills and power, you definitely won't break even. But I can't see a widespread damage drop of more than 15%, with it being more likely to be around 5% to 10% across the board (with exceptions for certain builds). I posted a thread in the forum a couple days ago on it: it's not perfect, when comparing numbers and not testing them, but it's highly unlikely that it's such a huge drop, and that will probably be reflected when ZoS decides to patch the PTS so all the skills and debuffs and buffs work (which do not at the moment).

I hope you're right and we will get only 5-10% nerf. But alot of people who have tested, including myself, reported 30-35% loss. We know that major and minor breach, crusher and alkosh is not working currently but do they add 25-30% dps? I don't think so. It seems dps got nerfed around 15-20% but we'll find out once its fixed.

merpins

Kurat wrote: »

MovesLikeJaguar wrote: »

PTS is currently broken. If you compare the tooltips and the totals that you receive from the new skills with the old skills and power, you definitely won't break even. But I can't see a widespread damage drop of more than 15%, with it being more likely to be around 5% to 10% across the board (with exceptions for certain builds). I posted a thread in the forum a couple days ago on it: it's not perfect, when comparing numbers and not testing them, but it's highly unlikely that it's such a huge drop, and that will probably be reflected when ZoS decides to patch the PTS so all the skills and debuffs and buffs work (which do not at the moment).

I hope you're right and we will get only 5-10% nerf. But alot of people who have tested, including myself, reported 30-35% loss. We know that major and minor breach, crusher and alkosh is not working currently but do they add 25-30% dps? I don't think so. It seems dps got nerfed around 15-20% but we'll find out once its fixed.

My reasoning is because it's not just the major and minor breach that aren't working. A number of normal buffs in the CP tree don't work, and the new advanced stats might not be accurate, or it might be calculating what your stats should be but not what they are. Overall, just from the numbers, it seems that most builds will suffer about a 4% drop in crit rate and a 10% drop in damage, some won't suffer as much and some will suffer more dependent on the build, sets, and class you are.

zvavi

Kurat wrote: »

MovesLikeJaguar wrote: »

PTS is currently broken. If you compare the tooltips and the totals that you receive from the new skills with the old skills and power, you definitely won't break even. But I can't see a widespread damage drop of more than 15%, with it being more likely to be around 5% to 10% across the board (with exceptions for certain builds). I posted a thread in the forum a couple days ago on it: it's not perfect, when comparing numbers and not testing them, but it's highly unlikely that it's such a huge drop, and that will probably be reflected when ZoS decides to patch the PTS so all the skills and debuffs and buffs work (which do not at the moment).

I hope you're right and we will get only 5-10% nerf. But alot of people who have tested, including myself, reported 30-35% loss. We know that major and minor breach, crusher and alkosh is not working currently but do they add 25-30% dps? I don't think so. It seems dps got nerfed around 15-20% but we'll find out once its fixed.

full 18200 resists on mob gives them 36.4% protection, with only 8k pen from armor (mag+cp) they will still have 10k resists which are 20% reduction. u need to multiply your parse by 1.25.

zvavi

generally, we actually get nerfed even more, because it is 10% dmg lost, when we are using the strongest cp, that u cant use everywhere, for example, in vSS you cant use the 15% crit dmg cp...

stefj68

for me right now feels more 40-50%