Zaans + Elfbane

JesterOrNot

For some reason, elf's bane does not affect Zaans despite being a Flame over time. Is this a bug? or am I missing something

JesterOrNot

I noted that Elf bane still effects grothdarr just not Zaans

Tommy_The_Gun

Well, I remember they changed something, some patches ago. I have found this old PTS patch notes (that most likely went live later):
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6714478#Comment_6714478
Elf Bane: This set no longer works with channeled effects or beams.

So it could explain why it does not work with Zaan, but still works with Grothdarr

Edit:
Yep, it went live with Greymoor update 26
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/528633/pc-mac-patch-notes-v6-0-5-greymoor-update-26

"Elf Bane: This set no longer works with channeled effects or beams."

JesterOrNot

Awesome what would be a good replacment @Tommy_The_Gun

UntilValhalla13

Zaan is what everyone was using for the mag dk meta a long time ago. Naturally, they had to nerf it. Now, you'd usually run ilambris or grothdar.

JesterOrNot

Is Zaans any good anymore?

Waffennacht

JesterOrNot wrote: »

Is Zaans any good anymore?

On some builds

Vevvev

Zaans is very strong if you keep the beam going, however they removed its interaction with Elf Bane due to the set getting.... ridiculous. So Elf Bane no longer effects beams and then they buffed Zaans to where its weaker initially, but ramps up far higher than it did before at the end of the channel.

zvavi

Because they nerfed it.

robpr

Then buffed Elfbane to 5s then they saw what it does to Zaan and removed it. It's a good tradeoff, all fire damage over time sets proc off cd now.

El_Borracho

It specifically exempts Zaan's because of what it did in PVP, i.e. the beam. Prolonging Zaan's ticked the damage up significantly over that last extended 5 seconds. Wear Grothdarr. Its a beast with Elf Bane. Can almost get 100% uptime.

AinSoph

I find it very weird that they added the sentence "This set no longer works with channeled effects or beams" considering only Zaan's gets affected by this. It seems rather redundant to put it on Elf Bane's description and would make more sense if Zaan's tooltop just said "The Beam's duration cannot be extended". This probably only annoys me but I just wanted to get it out there.

Vevvev

They probably worded it that way in case they add more beams in the future?

Ratzkifal

Zaan is not bad by all means. They buffed it for other builds than Elfbane if I remember correctly.
Good replacements for PvE are Grothdar and Domihaus which both still benefit from Elfbane. Especially in the case of Domihaus the 100% uptime on the weapon and spell damage can be quite nice.