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Year of Performance and How to Cancel ESO+
eovogtb16_ESO
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I love this game. Apparently they don't love us as customers though. Lack of communication and lack of ability to fix the game that we love is really tearing a divide in the players and developers. Crashes still persisting after 6 weeks of promises that they are going to be fixed is insane. Mind you crashes have been going on in this game for years they just haven't been as bad as Markarth update to where mostly everyone who does literally anything will crash. No compensation, no feedback, no sorry, no nothing.
I have never been involved or supported a game other than ESO that actively tries to avoid discussing serious issues about their game, whether it be on their forums where they just close discussions that are productive, or it be twitch streams where they completely dodge all questions. I have never been involved or supported a game other than ESO where the issues that have been brought up on their PTU continually make it to their live servers patch after patch. We were promised a fix for the performance in Cyrodiil over 5 years ago.
So I have seen quite a few people who don't know how to cancel their ESO+ and hopefully if enough people actually do it, maybe we can make them change, all of us vets who have been around here for years know that they wont change on their own.
How to Cancel ESO+
1) Go here: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/incident
2) Billing
3) Platform
4) ESO Plus Issue
5) Refund Request
Maybe we can actually make a difference.
For people worried about playing without ESO+ you can create a guild to store some of your items until you are happy with their service again. Also all DLC's can be bought with crowns with in game currency so its totally manageable to play without it. Sure a little time consuming but with all the time you have from not being able to play the actual game you will have more time for inventory management.
I have never been involved or supported a game other than ESO that actively tries to avoid discussing serious issues about their game, whether it be on their forums where they just close discussions that are productive, or it be twitch streams where they completely dodge all questions. I have never been involved or supported a game other than ESO where the issues that have been brought up on their PTU continually make it to their live servers patch after patch. We were promised a fix for the performance in Cyrodiil over 5 years ago.
So I have seen quite a few people who don't know how to cancel their ESO+ and hopefully if enough people actually do it, maybe we can make them change, all of us vets who have been around here for years know that they wont change on their own.
How to Cancel ESO+
1) Go here: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/incident
2) Billing
3) Platform
4) ESO Plus Issue
5) Refund Request
Maybe we can actually make a difference.
For people worried about playing without ESO+ you can create a guild to store some of your items until you are happy with their service again. Also all DLC's can be bought with crowns with in game currency so its totally manageable to play without it. Sure a little time consuming but with all the time you have from not being able to play the actual game you will have more time for inventory management.
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✭✭cave_troll wrote: »Just 3 days Bro. See you in Night City 👍.
Bad news, apparently Cyberpunk 2077 is also currently a buggy mess.2 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »So I have seen quite a few people who don't know how to cancel their ESO+ and hopefully if enough people actually do it, maybe we can make them change, all of us vets who have been around here for years know that they wont change on their own.
How to Cancel ESO+
1) Go here: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/incident
2) Billing
3) Platform
4) ESO Plus Issue
5) Refund Request
First of all, I don't really believe you.. What really makes me laugh though, is that AFTER you apparently want to help them CANCEL their subscription, you make a guide to get a refund..
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eovogtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Man before you speak you should actually look into things because that's where you can go to issue a refund request and get a cancellation at the same time.Edited by eovogtb16_ESO on December 8, 2020 12:22AM0
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✭In Before....
Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
__________________________Backstories:_________________________
Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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Barbaran✭✭✭✭The year of performance patches,
Sprint has a skill delay along with everything else
PvP has been reduced to RNG combat.
I get into a few good fights around 4-5 A.M PST after that the main campaign is un playable, and the secondary with have zero bars across the board.
Fantastic job at killing a game that still had years of being a cash cow left, done correctlyEdited by Barbaran on December 8, 2020 1:29AM8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »I can almost guarantee that the bugs in cyperpunk are fixed within a week.
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BazOfWar✭✭✭✭already cancelled mine, i am going to miss the perks it brings but Zos do not deserve the monthly sub. i have played some really badly managed mmo's over the years and even they had better maintenance/patch records than i have seen here.6
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vestahls✭✭✭✭✭
✭eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »I can almost guarantee that the bugs in cyperpunk are fixed within a week.
Apparently people are complaining that the patch that has already been released, has made the game even buggier.
Sound familiar?“He is even worse than a n'wah. He is - may Vivec forgive me for uttering this word - a Hlaalu.”luv Abnur
luv Rigurt
luv Stibbons
'ate Ayrenn
'ate Razum-dar
'ate Khamira
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renne✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »I can almost guarantee that the bugs in cyperpunk are fixed within a week.
Apparently people are complaining that the patch that has already been released, has made the game even buggier.
Sound familiar?
Oh my god.
I shouldn't laugh but the number of people I've seen popping off that they'll ditch ESO for Cyberpunk the moment it drops BECAUSE it's not going to be a buggy mess... 2 -
cave_troll✭✭✭eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »I can almost guarantee that the bugs in cyperpunk are fixed within a week.
Apparently people are complaining that the patch that has already been released, has made the game even buggier.
Sound familiar?
Oh my god. I shouldn't laugh but the number of people I've seen popping off that they'll ditch ESO for Cyberpunk the moment it drops BECAUSE it's not going to be a buggy mess...
Doubt It will be a mess. There are Bugs in there for sure but I bet that they will be fixed a lot faster than in ESO. Also the company doesn't stick their head into the sand and ignores their communities feedback and bug reports.
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✭✭✭eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »I can almost guarantee that the bugs in cyperpunk are fixed within a week.
Apparently people are complaining that the patch that has already been released, has made the game even buggier.
Sound familiar?
Oh my god. I shouldn't laugh but the number of people I've seen popping off that they'll ditch ESO for Cyberpunk the moment it drops BECAUSE it's not going to be a buggy mess...
Only thing that will change is that people will play both games.
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✭✭eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »I can almost guarantee that the bugs in cyperpunk are fixed within a week.
i could be wrong but isn't cp a single player game?0 -
Khajiitihaswares✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »I can almost guarantee that the bugs in cyperpunk are fixed within a week.
i could be wrong but isn't cp a single player game?
In a year they're adding a GTA 5 style online play. This has been mentioned by CD project Red.2 -
eovogtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭2 days since the patch and crashes still persisting and zero communication from ZOS feelsbadman5
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volkeswagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.Edited by volkeswagon on December 9, 2020 12:57AM5 -
rrimöykk✭✭✭✭✭volkeswagon wrote: »Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.
How can you defend them? They SHOULD know what the problems are as many were posted on PTS forums. There are no excuse for those bugs getting into the game yet they did. Why? It was rushed way too early.
Stop defending them already and open your eyes. Not giving them money does indeed help as they are forced to work for the game and not ignore everything. This has gone too far already. Enough is enough.14 -
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✭volkeswagon wrote: »Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.
What a terrible analogy. Last I checked, Zos created ESO. It's more like Zos is Dr. Frankenstein and they can't diagnose the illness in their own monster.
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WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GetAgrippa wrote: »volkeswagon wrote: »Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.
What a terrible analogy. Last I checked, Zos created ESO. It's more like Zos is Dr. Frankenstein and they can't diagnose the illness in their own monster.
With any software update there’s also the option of rolling back to the previous version, partially or fully. ZoS could fix crashes overnight by restoring to Stonethorn until they can find the issue and bring Markarth to a functional state. It’s an option they refuse to take, but imagine having the ability to “Undo” any illness in that medical analogy.3 -
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✭✭volkeswagon wrote: »Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.
How can you defend them? They SHOULD know what the problems are as many were posted on PTS forums. There are no excuse for those bugs getting into the game yet they did. Why? It was rushed way too early.
Stop defending them already and open your eyes. Not giving them money does indeed help as they are forced to work for the game and not ignore everything. This has gone too far already. Enough is enough.
They know what the bugs are.. the hard part is fixing them, which they are trying to do.. we defend them because we trust them, and trust that they are doing their best.. you say that that taking away finances will help you, but it coul also have the opposite effect if we are unlucky1 -
Muzza45✭✭✭volkeswagon wrote: »Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.
If there was the unfortunate situation around an undiagnosed illness, the doctors would indeed do many tests. However, those same doctors would sit down with you to explain what they've done and talk in-depth about exactly what they are going to do next. They would take great care to fully explain any queries or concerns you may have. If they didn't, they would be revealed as useless doctors, and you'd find a different set.
Your analogy unfortunately doesn't fit with the seemingly inept bungling and accompanying silence we've all experienced.7 -
Skcarkden✭✭✭✭volkeswagon wrote: »Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.
So why don't they take measures to reduce the frustration? There's several SPECIFIC bosses in dungeons that trigger a screen freezing error and it's a very high chance of triggering. Do they do anything to remove said dungeons temporarily from any random dungeon grouping or from being a daily undaunted mission? No. Why don't they? in before "omg it's not that simple! you can't just turn pieces of content on or off with the flick of a switch! ignore the fact lots and lots of MMO's run by skilled devs create failsafes in their game to give them quick control to make changes without needing patches each time, ignore those because it just doesn't exist even though it does!"
Instead they host an event that hinges on completing said dungeons and hoping you make it to the end without crashing and having to restart! They don't care, they've taken no steps to at the very least mitigate this mess.5 -
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✭✭volkeswagon wrote: »Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.
If there was the unfortunate situation around an undiagnosed illness, the doctors would indeed do many tests. However, those same doctors would sit down with you to explain what they've done and talk in-depth about exactly what they are going to do next. They would take great care to fully explain any queries or concerns you may have. If they didn't, they would be revealed as useless doctors, and you'd find a different set.
Your analogy unfortunately doesn't fit with the seemingly inept bungling and accompanying silence we've all experienced.
Depending on what your illness is, or is suspected to be, the doctors will discuss it with their colleagues first, before coming to the patient0 -
Muzza45✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »volkeswagon wrote: »Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.
If there was the unfortunate situation around an undiagnosed illness, the doctors would indeed do many tests. However, those same doctors would sit down with you to explain what they've done and talk in-depth about exactly what they are going to do next. They would take great care to fully explain any queries or concerns you may have. If they didn't, they would be revealed as useless doctors, and you'd find a different set.
Your analogy unfortunately doesn't fit with the seemingly inept bungling and accompanying silence we've all experienced.
Depending on what your illness is, or is suspected to be, the doctors will discuss it with their colleagues first, before coming to the patient
But they take less than six years to talk to the patient3 -
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✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »volkeswagon wrote: »Not another post about Zenimax not caring. Fake news. It's like if you have an undiagnosed illness. The doctors can't help because they don't know what's wrong. But they keep doing tests to try to find the cause and hopefully they find something that might be the issue so they treat it hoping it works. Canceling ESO plus won't fix the game. They fix everything that the know how to fix. Knowing is the issue. Reducing their cashflow won't result in magical fixes.
If there was the unfortunate situation around an undiagnosed illness, the doctors would indeed do many tests. However, those same doctors would sit down with you to explain what they've done and talk in-depth about exactly what they are going to do next. They would take great care to fully explain any queries or concerns you may have. If they didn't, they would be revealed as useless doctors, and you'd find a different set.
Your analogy unfortunately doesn't fit with the seemingly inept bungling and accompanying silence we've all experienced.
Depending on what your illness is, or is suspected to be, the doctors will discuss it with their colleagues first, before coming to the patient
But they take less than six years to talk to the patient
Don't act like they have not spoken a single word to us in 6 years1
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