New Weapon Trait to replace Decisive.

MindOfTheSwarm

Let's be honest here, Decisive sucks. It just does not offer enough for it to be used in any build whatsoever. I propose a new trait to replace it.

Pauls

Charged sucks btw, do you want to replace it too?

AshfieldLad

Charged has uses with brittle though 🙃

MindOfTheSwarm

AshfieldLad wrote: »

Charged has uses with brittle though 🙃

I think Infused and Charged should be combined into a single trait.

Vildebill

Pauls wrote: »

Charged sucks btw, do you want to replace it too?

Charged is great for MagDK, especially in PvP.

MrBrownstone

Isn't decisive the bis PvE tank trait?

GrimTheReaper45

Decisive is something Id like to see stick around. There always going to be 1 best at pure damage, that always switch from patch to patch. Sharp, precise, infused, they all just change patch to patch as to whats going to result in higher damage. Something like decisive though, especially in ideal balance of the game, gives players an option for more unique builds. A good example would be an ult generating tank or healer. I use to run decisive on my negate tank, really no point to that build now with time stop being a thing but its just one example. There are a ton of utility ults or even dps builds that could make use of this.

Tsar_Gekkou

Warhorn uptime is important.

Vevvev

Vildebill wrote: »

Pauls wrote: »

Charged sucks btw, do you want to replace it too?

Charged is great for MagDK, especially in PvP.

^ this

Without it a lot of Dragonknights would be starved for resources since Combustion gives resources on poison and flame procs.

Starlight_Whisper

AshfieldLad wrote: »

Charged has uses with brittle though 🙃

Concussion too

Starlight_Whisper

And no thanks, I very much like decisive. It's a supportive trait.

ankeor

Umm. No, thanks.

Warraxx

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UntilValhalla13

Change invigorating, if anything.

Juhasow

Pauls wrote: »

Charged sucks btw, do you want to replace it too?

Charged have its use in both PvE and PvP. Having almost if not guaranteed status effect proc from enchantment and decently high chance from other abilities is usefll for certain setups.

OlumoGarbag

The problem atm is, that alot of ults are underperforming due to min and major buff changes otherwise the trait would be stronger. It's still a solid backbar choice for any ult focused build or a genius set build

idk

MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »

Let's be honest here, Decisive sucks.

If we are truly going to be honest then there will always be a trait that sucks. Change decisive by buffing it or make it something different will lead to another trait sucking.

EdmondDontes

MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »

Let's be honest here, Decisive sucks. It just does not offer enough for it to be used in any build whatsoever. I propose a new trait to replace it.

But decisive is a great trait if used correctly. It's great on a tank who wants to build ulti fast.

Wyrd88

Tsar_Gekkou wrote: »

Warhorn uptime is important.

Let's be honest here, Warhorn sucks. It just does not offer enough for it to be used in any build whatsoever. I propose a new ult to replace it.

OneWingedAnge7

I use decisive on my back bar AS 2h so I can get my ult back inside a minute so I can go wolfing in bg's

ccfeeling

Wyrd88 wrote: »

Tsar_Gekkou wrote: »

Warhorn uptime is important.

Let's be honest here, Warhorn sucks. It just does not offer enough for it to be used in any build whatsoever. I propose a new ult to replace it.

As an Assault Ultimate , I want to know anybody slot this skill in alliance group ?

IDK , because I play solo all the time

Hapexamendios

UntilValhalla13 wrote: »

Change invigorating, if anything.

Agreed for armor.


For weapons, I'd be inclined to get rid of powered myself. I don't know anyone who uses it even on their healers.

deleted008293

I'm not into combat stuff but here are some insights...

Maybe some of those traits could increase the duration of effect over time skills?
Or increase healing received.
Or reduce damage income from this, that and that...
Or affect player speed / sneak abilities...

Hell maybe we even need more traits in the future?

Moonsorrow

Hapexamendios wrote: »

UntilValhalla13 wrote: »

Change invigorating, if anything.

Agreed for armor.


For weapons, I'd be inclined to get rid of powered myself. I don't know anyone who uses it even on their healers.

There is use for it in PVP, because of the Battle Spirit healing reduction there can be setups/classes/specs that need all the easily accessible Healing Done modifiers on the defensive/healing bar.

I mean, i have on several solo builds a Powered weapon on SnB bar. It can be very efficient trait if built properly.

Decisive in 1h (half value) is kinda weak though compared to other choices, but not useless. 1H weapon Decisive value could be slightly buffed imo.

I do like Decisive as a trait in some tanky ultigen setups and do not support the idea it being changed to something else.

Couple more new traits would be cool though, if it does not mean up and down balancing of them every few months.

Rowjoh

Invigorating is the bum trait.

All other traits, including Decisive, are very useful in one way or another.

Starlight_Whisper

Rowjoh wrote: »

Invigorating is the bum trait.

All other traits, including Decisive, are very useful in one way or another.

Nirn on amour is a close tie

thadjarvis

Decisive can be and is used by support roles in PvE or PvP if they don't need something else. Though Powered is kind of superfluous. It's use should be covered by Precise/Nirnhoned.

Likewise, Reinforced and Nirnhoned should be collapsed into one trait.

Does anyone use invigorating?

MindOfTheSwarm

Ok so the consensus is get rid of Invig. fair enough. That does suck too. So what would you want in exchange of Invig?

Red_Feather

Make is so that when you are at full ultimate, Decisive does something new! 😊

MindOfTheSwarm

I was thinking a trait that buffs the actual ultimate itself in some way when you use up your excess Ultimate points.
For example say you used 500 ultimate on Elemental Rage that costs 250 ult. Maybe the other 250 could be added as Spell Damage to that ultimate as well as increase the ultimate's duration say... 50 ultimate points give an extra second. Maybe this could be an addition to Decisive while Invigorating could be swapped out for something new entirely.

Mythreindeer

Invig could be buffed to the point it is useful which could open up choices in skill lines or passives, etc