FTP week. Wait, what?

Tandor

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Jierdanit wrote: »

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Daemons_Bane wrote: »

I don't know what zone you are in to see people moaning over broken dungeon finder.. yesterday evening, undaunted camps had even more recruiting than usual, and people seemed to love it.. the regular zones too, buzzed with recruiting calls

I haven't seen so many people in base game zones for a long time, if ever. I wandered into the bank in Vulkhel Guard the other evening and couldn't believe how crowded it was. I've been doing world bosses, dolmens and delves etc and not seen anyone crash out or fail to run the necessary skills etc. Of course there are problem areas in the game currently, but it is far from being totally broken and unplayable as some would claim. I assume that is borne out by the logs that ZOS maintain, hence their going ahead with the events and FTP trials etc.

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Miswar wrote: »

I have never seen so empty guild rosters that used to be full of active players... never seen pvp so unpopulated and uneventful.

Never seen active guilds running no real pve trials for veteran players due to the game been absolutely "#"#%#"%#" condition.

That is the realm of Elders Scrolls Offline 2020... so many are just fed up while some housing people enjoy spending money on crowns.

Nobody under-estimates the problems with PvP and trials, but the proportion of players focusing on those activities is very small, as is the proportion of players focusing on spending money on crowns. In between those two most players are focusing on overland content including quests, world bosses, delves and dolmens etc and those players have the least problems.

From what i have seen you post, it seems like you only play overland PvE and never do anything endgame related.

So please just dont say something like that if you admit that you have absolutely no clue in what a broken state PvP (and i assume endgame PvE) is atm.

People like you just lead to ZOS thinking that the game is fine and makes them absolutely abandon an entire part of the playerbase.
(and even if they are by far not the majority of players, they are still not a very small part of the playerbase, and most importantly every single PvP and endgame PvE player is also a PAYING customer, most probably paying more than someone who only does questing)

You should not justify ZOS doing nothing for PvP and endgame PvE players by saying that they only make up smaller part of the players and acting like due to that they wouldnt deserve a working game.

I specifically stated that nobody under-estimates the problems with PvP and trials, you just chose not to bold that part and to ignore it. I know what state PvP and endgame PvE is in at the moment, but that does not mean the entire game is broken. Nowhere have I justified ZOS doing nothing, indeed just today I expressed the hope that these issues would get resolved and I suggested that a proper statement on the state of the game was overdue from Messrs Firor and Lambert.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7042729#Comment_7042729

I saw that part of your post and yes i chose not to write anything about it since the rest of your posts made it pretty obvious that you dont actually care about that state at all, since everything is alright for you.

And while your comment (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7042729#Comment_7042729) says that you know that the game is not playable for

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10% of the players

(again i dont know what it matters that that is only 10% of the players, those players are still all paying customers who deserve that working game you already have as well) it still seems like you are arguing in favor of ZOS in that matter.

That post made it clear that I do care about the problems other players have, otherwise why would I have called for an overdue statement on the state of the game from its directors?

If I thought the state of the game didn't matter in that it only applied to 10% of the players and not me, why would I also have expressed the hope that their issues would be fixed soon?

You guys with problems sure don't make it easy for the rest of us to show sympathy and call for better support for you. When we clearly state that we recognise your problems, hope they're fixed soon, and call for an overdue official statement on the state of the game, you just jump down our throats and say we know nothing and care even less.

scorpius2k1

Game is in a horrible state at the moment, my guess would be:

Player Counts Declining => F2P Week => Player Counts Increase => Numbers Normalize => Profit.

Corporate overlords are pleased again. Nothing to see here folks, just business as usual.

Jierdanit

Tandor wrote: »

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Jierdanit wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Jierdanit wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

I don't know what zone you are in to see people moaning over broken dungeon finder.. yesterday evening, undaunted camps had even more recruiting than usual, and people seemed to love it.. the regular zones too, buzzed with recruiting calls

I haven't seen so many people in base game zones for a long time, if ever. I wandered into the bank in Vulkhel Guard the other evening and couldn't believe how crowded it was. I've been doing world bosses, dolmens and delves etc and not seen anyone crash out or fail to run the necessary skills etc. Of course there are problem areas in the game currently, but it is far from being totally broken and unplayable as some would claim. I assume that is borne out by the logs that ZOS maintain, hence their going ahead with the events and FTP trials etc.

Tandor wrote: »

Miswar wrote: »

I have never seen so empty guild rosters that used to be full of active players... never seen pvp so unpopulated and uneventful.

Never seen active guilds running no real pve trials for veteran players due to the game been absolutely "#"#%#"%#" condition.

That is the realm of Elders Scrolls Offline 2020... so many are just fed up while some housing people enjoy spending money on crowns.

Nobody under-estimates the problems with PvP and trials, but the proportion of players focusing on those activities is very small, as is the proportion of players focusing on spending money on crowns. In between those two most players are focusing on overland content including quests, world bosses, delves and dolmens etc and those players have the least problems.

From what i have seen you post, it seems like you only play overland PvE and never do anything endgame related.

So please just dont say something like that if you admit that you have absolutely no clue in what a broken state PvP (and i assume endgame PvE) is atm.

People like you just lead to ZOS thinking that the game is fine and makes them absolutely abandon an entire part of the playerbase.
(and even if they are by far not the majority of players, they are still not a very small part of the playerbase, and most importantly every single PvP and endgame PvE player is also a PAYING customer, most probably paying more than someone who only does questing)

You should not justify ZOS doing nothing for PvP and endgame PvE players by saying that they only make up smaller part of the players and acting like due to that they wouldnt deserve a working game.

I specifically stated that nobody under-estimates the problems with PvP and trials, you just chose not to bold that part and to ignore it. I know what state PvP and endgame PvE is in at the moment, but that does not mean the entire game is broken. Nowhere have I justified ZOS doing nothing, indeed just today I expressed the hope that these issues would get resolved and I suggested that a proper statement on the state of the game was overdue from Messrs Firor and Lambert.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7042729#Comment_7042729

I saw that part of your post and yes i chose not to write anything about it since the rest of your posts made it pretty obvious that you dont actually care about that state at all, since everything is alright for you.

And while your comment (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7042729#Comment_7042729) says that you know that the game is not playable for

10% of the players

(again i dont know what it matters that that is only 10% of the players, those players are still all paying customers who deserve that working game you already have as well) it still seems like you are arguing in favor of ZOS in that matter.

That post made it clear that I do care about the problems other players have, otherwise why would I have called for an overdue statement on the state of the game from its directors?

If I thought the state of the game didn't matter in that it only applied to 10% of the players and not me, why would I also have expressed the hope that their issues would be fixed soon?

You guys with problems sure don't make it easy for the rest of us to show sympathy and call for better support for you. When we clearly state that we recognise your problems, hope they're fixed soon, and call for an overdue official statement on the state of the game, you just jump down our throats and say we know nothing and care even less.

I guess i have been somewhat *** with you.

Its probably mainly cause im just frustrated that you apparently have a working game you can enjoy while there is a lot of players rn (including me) who have a really hard time enjoying a game they put 1000s of hours into just because the company behind it really runs it pretty badly.

Apologies for taking the things you said badly even tho it seems like you care about other parts too, i think i just have misread some of your posts and have mainly seen posts were you defend the state of the game and not posts like the one you linked.

Tandor

Jierdanit wrote: »

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Tandor wrote: »

Jierdanit wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Jierdanit wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

I don't know what zone you are in to see people moaning over broken dungeon finder.. yesterday evening, undaunted camps had even more recruiting than usual, and people seemed to love it.. the regular zones too, buzzed with recruiting calls

I haven't seen so many people in base game zones for a long time, if ever. I wandered into the bank in Vulkhel Guard the other evening and couldn't believe how crowded it was. I've been doing world bosses, dolmens and delves etc and not seen anyone crash out or fail to run the necessary skills etc. Of course there are problem areas in the game currently, but it is far from being totally broken and unplayable as some would claim. I assume that is borne out by the logs that ZOS maintain, hence their going ahead with the events and FTP trials etc.

Tandor wrote: »

Miswar wrote: »

I have never seen so empty guild rosters that used to be full of active players... never seen pvp so unpopulated and uneventful.

Never seen active guilds running no real pve trials for veteran players due to the game been absolutely "#"#%#"%#" condition.

That is the realm of Elders Scrolls Offline 2020... so many are just fed up while some housing people enjoy spending money on crowns.

Nobody under-estimates the problems with PvP and trials, but the proportion of players focusing on those activities is very small, as is the proportion of players focusing on spending money on crowns. In between those two most players are focusing on overland content including quests, world bosses, delves and dolmens etc and those players have the least problems.

From what i have seen you post, it seems like you only play overland PvE and never do anything endgame related.

So please just dont say something like that if you admit that you have absolutely no clue in what a broken state PvP (and i assume endgame PvE) is atm.

People like you just lead to ZOS thinking that the game is fine and makes them absolutely abandon an entire part of the playerbase.
(and even if they are by far not the majority of players, they are still not a very small part of the playerbase, and most importantly every single PvP and endgame PvE player is also a PAYING customer, most probably paying more than someone who only does questing)

You should not justify ZOS doing nothing for PvP and endgame PvE players by saying that they only make up smaller part of the players and acting like due to that they wouldnt deserve a working game.

I specifically stated that nobody under-estimates the problems with PvP and trials, you just chose not to bold that part and to ignore it. I know what state PvP and endgame PvE is in at the moment, but that does not mean the entire game is broken. Nowhere have I justified ZOS doing nothing, indeed just today I expressed the hope that these issues would get resolved and I suggested that a proper statement on the state of the game was overdue from Messrs Firor and Lambert.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7042729#Comment_7042729

I saw that part of your post and yes i chose not to write anything about it since the rest of your posts made it pretty obvious that you dont actually care about that state at all, since everything is alright for you.

And while your comment (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7042729#Comment_7042729) says that you know that the game is not playable for

10% of the players

(again i dont know what it matters that that is only 10% of the players, those players are still all paying customers who deserve that working game you already have as well) it still seems like you are arguing in favor of ZOS in that matter.

That post made it clear that I do care about the problems other players have, otherwise why would I have called for an overdue statement on the state of the game from its directors?

If I thought the state of the game didn't matter in that it only applied to 10% of the players and not me, why would I also have expressed the hope that their issues would be fixed soon?

You guys with problems sure don't make it easy for the rest of us to show sympathy and call for better support for you. When we clearly state that we recognise your problems, hope they're fixed soon, and call for an overdue official statement on the state of the game, you just jump down our throats and say we know nothing and care even less.

I guess i have been somewhat *** with you.

Its probably mainly cause im just frustrated that you apparently have a working game you can enjoy while there is a lot of players rn (including me) who have a really hard time enjoying a game they put 1000s of hours into just because the company behind it really runs it pretty badly.

Apologies for taking the things you said badly even tho it seems like you care about other parts too, i think i just have misread some of your posts and have mainly seen posts were you defend the state of the game and not posts like the one you linked.

No problem friend, these things happen but it's not often on the internet that someone fesses up and apologises - kudos for that and wholly accepted ! I truly hope the game gets sorted for you and others in your position asap.