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Vrateshran Destro.
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Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭Vateshran.
I'm drunk and can't type ä.Edited by Ariades_swe on November 29, 2020 1:12AM0 -
dinokstrunz✭✭✭✭✭
✭KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »not stronger than zaan so its fine
Since it cannot be cleansed and pretty much instantly procs from a free costing ability, it's way stronger than Zaan.1 -
Kikazaru✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've seen players using 2h and vateshran,
With Malacath's Band of Brutality.
With Crimson Twilight.
With Unfathomable Darkness.
This is the epitome of what it is like to clutch to a fotm.
Mizaru
“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”3 -
Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭I've seen players using 2h and vateshran,
With Malacath's Band of Brutality.
With Crimson Twilight.
With Unfathomable Darkness.
This is the epitome of what it is like to clutch to a fotm.
Yeah it's great for stamplayers after the changes that makes light and heavy attacks scale of highest resource and how major breach change offers penetration to all damagetypes now.
A free to cast ranged skill that procs 2700 damage per second (3kish with malacath) gives major breach, mag regen and is ranged on top.
No reason to run snb for stam instead of frost staff. I rather take a no cleansable no losabe free 2.7k dps over gaining an extra 2.9 k penetration.
It's almost meta on EU now.1 -
Stahlor✭✭✭✭✭2700 is the value in PVE. Beside that, its range is only 15m, so only twice as far as e.g. dizzying swing, but doesn't hit you with 6 to 10k instantly.0
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Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭2700 is the value in PVE. Beside that, its range is only 15m, so only twice as far as e.g. dizzying swing, but doesn't hit you with 6 to 10k instantly.
Yes you're right.
The tooltip is 2.7 k which makes it among the best single target dot procs in the game but it can't be cleansed.
I guess by your logic proc sets like sheer venom is ok too since they don't do 6 to 10 k instantly each second?
In bgs I use vateshran frost with malacath/morkuldin/unfathomable
on my heavy armor dot stamdk and its fun as hell.
They usually die during one fossilize which is easy to spam with elemental drain on.
I will prolly switch out morkuldin for crimson though.
Edited by Ariades_swe on December 2, 2020 5:15PM0 -
Destyran✭✭✭✭✭Please no I have just come back and have run this arena 30 times and got everything but lightning please let me just get a build together I’m poor lmao1 -
Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The big-arse visual of the tether might be the best psyche-out mechanic in the game.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
-->(((Cyrodiil)))<--1 -
Jman100582✭✭✭✭The biggest thing that makes the vates destro a little aids is that u can't purify the dot. other then that it's not too bad to deal with in pvp by itself1
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✭FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »The fact you cant cleanse it or LoS it is silly.
The tether actually will be broken by LOS.Ariades_swe wrote: »No reason to run snb for stam instead of frost staff. I rather take a no cleansable no losabe free 2.7k dps over gaining an extra 2.9 k penetration.
And while it's true that the effect cannot be cleansed, I have to wonder if that's because it may actually not be considered a DOT by the game. I know that it won't trigger Skoria, for example, but I haven't tried to see if the tooltip value varies with changes to CP or the Necromancer passive.1 -
NoSoup✭✭✭✭FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »The fact you cant cleanse it or LoS it is silly.
The tether actually will be broken by LOS.Ariades_swe wrote: »No reason to run snb for stam instead of frost staff. I rather take a no cleansable no losabe free 2.7k dps over gaining an extra 2.9 k penetration.
And while it's true that the effect cannot be cleansed, I have to wonder if that's because it may actually not be considered a DOT by the game. I know that it won't trigger Skoria, for example, but I haven't tried to see if the tooltip value varies with changes to CP or the Necromancer passive.
If the tether is broken by LOS then clearly this just a learn-to-play issue and the staff is fine as is....Formally SirDopey, lost forum account during the great reset.....0 -
Sheuib✭✭✭✭I use it and I know that people LOS it all the time or use a gap closer on someone else to break distance. This is a master weapon. They are supposed to be strong.0
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It also does not trigger things like Burning Spell Weave
Edit: and LoS does break itEdited by Waffennacht on December 2, 2020 11:45PM0 -
Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭You guys are right its losable.
My bad.Edited by Ariades_swe on December 3, 2020 2:46AM0 -
FangOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »It also does not trigger things like Burning Spell Weave
Edit: and LoS does break it
Damn musta been lag than, coulda swore it was still on me. Or perhaps a visual bug?0 -
Rhaegar75✭✭✭✭✭FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »It also does not trigger things like Burning Spell Weave
Edit: and LoS does break it
Damn musta been lag than, coulda swore it was still on me. Or perhaps a visual bug?
same here: I had situations where LoS did not work...went through trees and pillars0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »It also does not trigger things like Burning Spell Weave
Edit: and LoS does break it
Damn musta been lag than, coulda swore it was still on me. Or perhaps a visual bug?
same here: I had situations where LoS did not work...went through trees and pillars
It can break on LoS........
BUT
It all depends on when the LoS occurs. You need to break the beam when the damage tick occurs, because if the vateshran user decides to "un-LoS" you between the damage ticks, the beam will not break.
The beam needs to be cleansable or have it's range significantly reduced.0
