Lightning staff 'Ticks' reduced to 2 ?

molecule

Lightning staff used to be 3 damage 'ticks' (then a final hit), just tested on a dummy and now it's only 2 'ticks'.

Did i miss soething in the patch notes, or just a bug with Combat Metrics add-on ?

Target Dummies ;





Random targets in Craglorn






All 1 single complete heavy attck channel

zvavi

They nerfed lightning staff? Lol.

Edit: nope just tested still 4 ticks total. (3 dot 1 direct)

molecule

zvavi wrote: »

They nerfed lightning staff? Lol.

Edit: nope just tested still 4 ticks total. (3 dot 1 direct)

How are you measuring the ticks ?

Combat Metrics is showwing 2 ticks only on various targets for me

molecule

Both Combat Metrics and ESO Logger are showing only 2 ticks ?



( 2 ticks and the final direct )

itsfatbass

Many many things with light and heavy attacks are very different now, without a single mention of any of these varying changes in the patch notes.

molecule

So it seems ;

1 single channel 2 ticks

2 continuous channels = 5 ticks

3 continous channels = 8 ticks

4 continous channels = 11 ticks

First channel is missing a tick, subsequent channels are 3 if you continue the channel

Ascarl

Even if this is unintentional, this seems to big a big nerf to heavy attacks.

molecule

Ascarl wrote: »

Even if this is unintentional, this seems to big a big nerf to heavy attacks.

Posted in the Bugs forum, we'll see if it gets commented on by Zos

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/551098/lightning-heavy-attack-missing-a-damage-tick-on-single-channel#latest

Altyrann

So, just checking, is it 2/3 ticks and then the big final explosion, so basically losing 1 tick from first channel only, or is it 2/3 ticks of damage including final one, meaning each channel loses at least one tick?

molecule

Altyrann wrote: »

So, just checking, is it 2/3 ticks and then the big final explosion, so basically losing 1 tick from first channel only, or is it 2/3 ticks of damage including final one, meaning each channel loses at least one tick?

Each channel should be 3 ticks (dots) and a final direct damage hit

Doing a single channel gives you only 2 dot ticks and a final direct damage hit.

If you keep your mouse button pressed and complete 2 channels you get 5 dot ticks and 2 direct damage hits

The first of the 2 channels is missing a dot tick

Altyrann

molecule wrote: »

Altyrann wrote: »

So, just checking, is it 2/3 ticks and then the big final explosion, so basically losing 1 tick from first channel only, or is it 2/3 ticks of damage including final one, meaning each channel loses at least one tick?

Each channel should be 3 ticks (dots) and a final direct damage hit

Doing a single channel gives you only 2 dot ticks and a final direct damage hit.

If you keep your mouse button pressed and complete 2 channels you get 5 dot ticks and 2 direct damage hits

The first of the 2 channels is missing a dot tick

Just logged on to test. Seeing the same thing as you in CMX, but when I turn on floating combat text I see 4 hits per channel (3 small DoT ticks and one big hit at the end).

Wondering if it may be a CMX bug.

Altyrann

Just found a precursor so I could track health against CMX report and floating text more easily. Looks like it is a CMX issue and not actually missing a tick.

Altyrann

One more update from another quick test. Looks like the first tick of the first channel is happening before you are registered as in combat if you open the fight with a heavy (but the damage is still being done if you check dummy HP before and after).

If you do a single light attack and then channel a heavy, for example, you'll see all 4 hits come though.

molecule

Altyrann wrote: »

Just found a precursor so I could track health against CMX report and floating text more easily. Looks like it is a CMX issue and not actually missing a tick.

Great, thanks for checking

Altyrann

molecule wrote: »

Altyrann wrote: »

Just found a precursor so I could track health against CMX report and floating text more easily. Looks like it is a CMX issue and not actually missing a tick.

Great, thanks for checking

No worries - distracted me from the oven cooking my dinner far too slowly!

zvavi

First damage tick on a dummy never registers, light attack once before you test things.

luen79rwb17_ESO

Maybe this is caused because they removed the 200 ms delay on the channel? So the initial tick is instantly registered, so instant that CMX is not registering yet it's still going off? Just a thought.

danno8

Kind of like when you instakill a mob. CMX won't even register the fight.

khyrkat

Dunno yet about all these combat metrics (forever n00b ^_^) but I noticed I am able to nearly one shot mobs on my mag sorcerer with light attacks while doing much lower damage with heavy attacks LOL Is this intended?