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Bloodthirsty Not Scaling
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MrZeDark✭✭✭Carbohydrate wrote: »Nord_Raseri wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »3x infused:
3x bt:
seems fine to me
That's almost identical. From what I've seen just after BT was changed, BT should be giving higher numbers than infused with dmg enchants on extended parses, not just a half a percent difference...
Look at what is being tested lol. This was just light attacking a 3 mil dummy from 100 -> 0. Relequen, velidreth, and damage from poisons are not affected by bloodthirsty/infused. Infused light attacks had a max hit of 5419, and bloodthirsty light attacks had a max hit of 6001.
Even on a full parse on a trial dummy you aren't going to see a 10k damage difference...it's never been that way
Except with 3 BT you should be up 120 spell/wpn dmg by end of parse compared to infused. So your dmg should have been higher even with just light attacks. — especially if you look at your crit rate on light stacks, you see for you crit more and did fractionally better dps?Edited by MrZeDark on October 21, 2020 4:01AM1 -
Carbohydrate✭✭✭Carbohydrate wrote: »Nord_Raseri wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »3x infused:
3x bt:
seems fine to me
That's almost identical. From what I've seen just after BT was changed, BT should be giving higher numbers than infused with dmg enchants on extended parses, not just a half a percent difference...
Look at what is being tested lol. This was just light attacking a 3 mil dummy from 100 -> 0. Relequen, velidreth, and damage from poisons are not affected by bloodthirsty/infused. Infused light attacks had a max hit of 5419, and bloodthirsty light attacks had a max hit of 6001.
Even on a full parse on a trial dummy you aren't going to see a 10k damage difference...it's never been that way
Except with 3 BT you should be up 120 spell/wpn dmg by end of parse compared to infused. So your dmg should have been higher even with just light attacks. — especially if you look at your crit rate on light stacks, you see for you crit more and did fractionally better dps?
This was with no potions and no buffs as it was tested on a 3m dummy and not the trial dummy.1 -
MrZeDark✭✭✭The point is to prove it is scaling, not just your total dps. You need to graph total output over time and demonstrate that your dmg grew, as well.Carbohydrate wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »Nord_Raseri wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »3x infused:
3x bt:
seems fine to me
That's almost identical. From what I've seen just after BT was changed, BT should be giving higher numbers than infused with dmg enchants on extended parses, not just a half a percent difference...
Look at what is being tested lol. This was just light attacking a 3 mil dummy from 100 -> 0. Relequen, velidreth, and damage from poisons are not affected by bloodthirsty/infused. Infused light attacks had a max hit of 5419, and bloodthirsty light attacks had a max hit of 6001.
Even on a full parse on a trial dummy you aren't going to see a 10k damage difference...it's never been that way
Except with 3 BT you should be up 120 spell/wpn dmg by end of parse compared to infused. So your dmg should have been higher even with just light attacks. — especially if you look at your crit rate on light stacks, you see for you crit more and did fractionally better dps?
This was with no potions and no buffs as it was tested on a 3m dummy and not the trial dummy.
That doesn’t change the fact that it scales.. You really just demonstrated that BT is broken.0 -
vgabor✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dit a bit of testing on PTS. Full static buff gear with malacath ring so not even crit variance, killing Precursor with spamming light attack.
Bloodthirsty:
Infused:
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MrZeDark✭✭✭Dit a bit of testing on PTS. Full static buff gear with malacath ring so not even crit variance, killing Precursor with spamming light attack.
Bloodthirsty:
Infused:
Perfect!!
Thank you for demonstrating scalability!! I'm happy to see on the PTS that you are seeing growth in DMG. I'm wondering if there is just an issue in live right now. From me shifting from BT to infused, I noticed a DPS increase. But what you demonstrated on the PTS is exactly what we need to see for execution classes!!
Again thank you so much!!
Do you think you could log out and back in, then confirm if you can repeat that? Just to test consistency (for BT only).0 -
Carbohydrate✭✭✭The point is to prove it is scaling, not just your total dps. You need to graph total output over time and demonstrate that your dmg grew, as well.Carbohydrate wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »Nord_Raseri wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »3x infused:
3x bt:
seems fine to me
That's almost identical. From what I've seen just after BT was changed, BT should be giving higher numbers than infused with dmg enchants on extended parses, not just a half a percent difference...
Look at what is being tested lol. This was just light attacking a 3 mil dummy from 100 -> 0. Relequen, velidreth, and damage from poisons are not affected by bloodthirsty/infused. Infused light attacks had a max hit of 5419, and bloodthirsty light attacks had a max hit of 6001.
Even on a full parse on a trial dummy you aren't going to see a 10k damage difference...it's never been that way
Except with 3 BT you should be up 120 spell/wpn dmg by end of parse compared to infused. So your dmg should have been higher even with just light attacks. — especially if you look at your crit rate on light stacks, you see for you crit more and did fractionally better dps?
This was with no potions and no buffs as it was tested on a 3m dummy and not the trial dummy.
That doesn’t change the fact that it scales.. You really just demonstrated that BT is broken.
So vgabor's test is essentially the same thing lol, compare the "fractionally better dps" between 3x infused and 3x bt0 -
MrZeDark✭✭✭Carbohydrate wrote: »The point is to prove it is scaling, not just your total dps. You need to graph total output over time and demonstrate that your dmg grew, as well.Carbohydrate wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »Nord_Raseri wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »3x infused:
3x bt:
seems fine to me
That's almost identical. From what I've seen just after BT was changed, BT should be giving higher numbers than infused with dmg enchants on extended parses, not just a half a percent difference...
Look at what is being tested lol. This was just light attacking a 3 mil dummy from 100 -> 0. Relequen, velidreth, and damage from poisons are not affected by bloodthirsty/infused. Infused light attacks had a max hit of 5419, and bloodthirsty light attacks had a max hit of 6001.
Even on a full parse on a trial dummy you aren't going to see a 10k damage difference...it's never been that way
Except with 3 BT you should be up 120 spell/wpn dmg by end of parse compared to infused. So your dmg should have been higher even with just light attacks. — especially if you look at your crit rate on light stacks, you see for you crit more and did fractionally better dps?
This was with no potions and no buffs as it was tested on a 3m dummy and not the trial dummy.
That doesn’t change the fact that it scales.. You really just demonstrated that BT is broken.
So vgabor's test is essentially the same thing lol, compare the "fractionally better dps" between 3x infused and 3x bt
No, he demonstrated better data to validate his point.0 -
kingsforged✭✭✭Carbohydrate wrote: »3x infused:
3x bt:
seems fine to me
Could you do the same parse with just Robust if you have the time?0 -
Carbohydrate✭✭✭Carbohydrate wrote: »The point is to prove it is scaling, not just your total dps. You need to graph total output over time and demonstrate that your dmg grew, as well.Carbohydrate wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »Nord_Raseri wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »3x infused:
3x bt:
seems fine to me
That's almost identical. From what I've seen just after BT was changed, BT should be giving higher numbers than infused with dmg enchants on extended parses, not just a half a percent difference...
Look at what is being tested lol. This was just light attacking a 3 mil dummy from 100 -> 0. Relequen, velidreth, and damage from poisons are not affected by bloodthirsty/infused. Infused light attacks had a max hit of 5419, and bloodthirsty light attacks had a max hit of 6001.
Even on a full parse on a trial dummy you aren't going to see a 10k damage difference...it's never been that way
Except with 3 BT you should be up 120 spell/wpn dmg by end of parse compared to infused. So your dmg should have been higher even with just light attacks. — especially if you look at your crit rate on light stacks, you see for you crit more and did fractionally better dps?
This was with no potions and no buffs as it was tested on a 3m dummy and not the trial dummy.
That doesn’t change the fact that it scales.. You really just demonstrated that BT is broken.
So vgabor's test is essentially the same thing lol, compare the "fractionally better dps" between 3x infused and 3x bt
No, he demonstrated better data to validate his point.
Better data on a 30 second bt vs infused test. My head is starting to hurt, I will stop here lol0 -
MrZeDark✭✭✭Carbohydrate wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »The point is to prove it is scaling, not just your total dps. You need to graph total output over time and demonstrate that your dmg grew, as well.Carbohydrate wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »Nord_Raseri wrote: »Carbohydrate wrote: »3x infused:
3x bt:
seems fine to me
That's almost identical. From what I've seen just after BT was changed, BT should be giving higher numbers than infused with dmg enchants on extended parses, not just a half a percent difference...
Look at what is being tested lol. This was just light attacking a 3 mil dummy from 100 -> 0. Relequen, velidreth, and damage from poisons are not affected by bloodthirsty/infused. Infused light attacks had a max hit of 5419, and bloodthirsty light attacks had a max hit of 6001.
Even on a full parse on a trial dummy you aren't going to see a 10k damage difference...it's never been that way
Except with 3 BT you should be up 120 spell/wpn dmg by end of parse compared to infused. So your dmg should have been higher even with just light attacks. — especially if you look at your crit rate on light stacks, you see for you crit more and did fractionally better dps?
This was with no potions and no buffs as it was tested on a 3m dummy and not the trial dummy.
That doesn’t change the fact that it scales.. You really just demonstrated that BT is broken.
So vgabor's test is essentially the same thing lol, compare the "fractionally better dps" between 3x infused and 3x bt
No, he demonstrated better data to validate his point.
Better data on a 30 second bt vs infused test. My head is starting to hurt, I will stop here lol
Lol you see how he demonstrated growth in his light attack? Which shows his DPS timeline would have scaled up (even over 30 seconds). But demonstrating two parses where they are almost identical, and not demonstrating growth or lack of growth leaves much to interpretation.
That is all.0