$100 Character Transfers

hexentb16_ESO · October 2020

ZOS, I know things tend to get lost in the general section and that this has been asked before but... if you see this I wanted to ask/tell you something.

Will you be implementing character transfers between servers and systems? I know its possible manually but takes a while, therefor it must be possible to set up an automated service for this. I mean, if teenage boys in their mother's basements can do it for their MMO private servers surely you can do it for your game. Heck, I'd be willing to pay $100 for such a service if it transferred ALL of our character progress, quest progress, and collections. $100 might seem like much to some players but for someone who's been playing since beta and has an account worth much more than that it would be far better than starting over and worth it.

Developing the automated system would be tricky but once its done its easy money.

VaranisArano · October 2020

No. They aren't interested.

Edit: Wrong link, now corrected
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/~/can-i-transfer-my-eso-account-and-characters-between-different-platforms-or

"We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. "

ArchMikem · October 2020

No, it's not possible. It was possible once, under specific conditions.

Raideen · October 2020

leaving money on the table is bad business

Kalik_Gold · October 2020

Shouldn’t cost half that if implemented.

VaranisArano · October 2020

Raideen wrote: »

leaving money on the table is bad business

Are they leaving money on the table though?

There comes a point where chasing every customer and trying to meet every demand isn't cost effective.

Developing such a transfer system costs money in terms of developer time and effort.

Under the status quo, ZOS also makes money from all the players who do transfer. They buy at least the base game and put in playtime on the new account. In an MMO, time played does equal money. Potentially, they also subscribe and rebuy content, cosmetics, or upgrades.

There is a point at which ZOS makes more money from not letting players transfer and getting some players to start over than they would from charging all players a high price to transfer.

If the math changes on that, I expect to see ZOS work out server transfers (PC/EU to PC/NA, for example) first before they work out crossplay between consoles or PC to console.

Tandor · October 2020

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS, I know things tend to get lost in the general section and that this has been asked before but... if you see this I wanted to ask/tell you something.

Will you be implementing character transfers between servers and systems? I know its possible manually but takes a while, therefor it must be possible to set up an automated service for this. I mean, if teenage boys in their mother's basements can do it for their MMO private servers surely you can do it for your game. Heck, I'd be willing to pay $100 for such a service if it transferred ALL of our character progress, quest progress, and collections. $100 might seem like much to some players but for someone who's been playing since beta and has an account worth much more than that it would be far better than starting over and worth it.

Developing the automated system would be tricky but once its done its easy money.

The bolded part is false.

ZOS did make a one-off transfer from PC to console when the console version launched but they have said this was able to be done because the destination servers comprised empty databases which wouldn't apply now.

They've made it clear it isn't going to happen, the ability to do it simply isn't there and they don't plan on building it. If they did, they'd have to overcome contractual and testing hurdles with the platform providers (Steam, Microsoft and Sony) who wouldn't in any event take kindly to their customers being able to transfer their accounts away from them.

hexentb16_ESO · October 2020

VaranisArano wrote: »

No. They aren't interested.

Edit: Wrong link, now corrected
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/~/can-i-transfer-my-eso-account-and-characters-between-different-platforms-or

"We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. "

ZOS changes their mind sometimes. Just look at faction changing.

hexentb16_ESO · October 2020

Kalik_Gold wrote: »

Shouldn’t cost half that if implemented.

I agree with you actually. I just used a large amount to get their attention.

hexentb16_ESO · October 2020

Tandor wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS, I know things tend to get lost in the general section and that this has been asked before but... if you see this I wanted to ask/tell you something.

Will you be implementing character transfers between servers and systems? I know its possible manually but takes a while, therefor it must be possible to set up an automated service for this. I mean, if teenage boys in their mother's basements can do it for their MMO private servers surely you can do it for your game. Heck, I'd be willing to pay $100 for such a service if it transferred ALL of our character progress, quest progress, and collections. $100 might seem like much to some players but for someone who's been playing since beta and has an account worth much more than that it would be far better than starting over and worth it.

Developing the automated system would be tricky but once its done its easy money.

The bolded part is false.

ZOS did make a one-off transfer from PC to console when the console version launched but they have said this was able to be done because the destination servers comprised empty databases which wouldn't apply now.

They've made it clear it isn't going to happen, the ability to do it simply isn't there and they don't plan on building it. If they did, they'd have to overcome contractual and testing hurdles with the platform providers (Steam, Microsoft and Sony) who wouldn't in any event take kindly to their customers being able to transfer their accounts away from them.

Not false. They've transfered stuff for me before, from non-empty database to non-empty database. It worked just fine. But it wasn't my account's entire accumulated progress, just some of it.

CaiWenji · October 2020

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

No. They aren't interested.

Edit: Wrong link, now corrected
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/~/can-i-transfer-my-eso-account-and-characters-between-different-platforms-or

"We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. "

ZOS changes their mind sometimes. Just look at faction changing.

And look at Dragons being implemented in ESO.

Sylvermynx · October 2020

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS, I know things tend to get lost in the general section and that this has been asked before but... if you see this I wanted to ask/tell you something.

Will you be implementing character transfers between servers and systems? I know its possible manually but takes a while, therefor it must be possible to set up an automated service for this. I mean, if teenage boys in their mother's basements can do it for their MMO private servers surely you can do it for your game. Heck, I'd be willing to pay $100 for such a service if it transferred ALL of our character progress, quest progress, and collections. $100 might seem like much to some players but for someone who's been playing since beta and has an account worth much more than that it would be far better than starting over and worth it.

Developing the automated system would be tricky but once its done its easy money.

The bolded part is false.

ZOS did make a one-off transfer from PC to console when the console version launched but they have said this was able to be done because the destination servers comprised empty databases which wouldn't apply now.

They've made it clear it isn't going to happen, the ability to do it simply isn't there and they don't plan on building it. If they did, they'd have to overcome contractual and testing hurdles with the platform providers (Steam, Microsoft and Sony) who wouldn't in any event take kindly to their customers being able to transfer their accounts away from them.

Not false. They've transfered stuff for me before, from non-empty database to non-empty database. It worked just fine. But it wasn't my account's entire accumulated progress, just some of it.

Well.... we have only your statement. And no one knows the truth thereof, right? Pretty sure ZOS isn't going to verify....

I'm not opposed to high-dollar transfers at this point. I AM opposed to a bajillion people inundating the servers on which I play - which are already pretty damn busy. More people (especially a LOT more people) means that the servers will be - problematic....

hexentb16_ESO · October 2020

Sylvermynx wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS, I know things tend to get lost in the general section and that this has been asked before but... if you see this I wanted to ask/tell you something.

Will you be implementing character transfers between servers and systems? I know its possible manually but takes a while, therefor it must be possible to set up an automated service for this. I mean, if teenage boys in their mother's basements can do it for their MMO private servers surely you can do it for your game. Heck, I'd be willing to pay $100 for such a service if it transferred ALL of our character progress, quest progress, and collections. $100 might seem like much to some players but for someone who's been playing since beta and has an account worth much more than that it would be far better than starting over and worth it.

Developing the automated system would be tricky but once its done its easy money.

The bolded part is false.

ZOS did make a one-off transfer from PC to console when the console version launched but they have said this was able to be done because the destination servers comprised empty databases which wouldn't apply now.

They've made it clear it isn't going to happen, the ability to do it simply isn't there and they don't plan on building it. If they did, they'd have to overcome contractual and testing hurdles with the platform providers (Steam, Microsoft and Sony) who wouldn't in any event take kindly to their customers being able to transfer their accounts away from them.

Not false. They've transfered stuff for me before, from non-empty database to non-empty database. It worked just fine. But it wasn't my account's entire accumulated progress, just some of it.

Well.... we have only your statement. And no one knows the truth thereof, right? Pretty sure ZOS isn't going to verify....

I'm not opposed to high-dollar transfers at this point. I AM opposed to a bajillion people inundating the servers on which I play - which are already pretty damn busy. More people (especially a LOT more people) means that the servers will be - problematic....

I could show you my pc beta exclusive pet on Xbox as proof if you'd like.

Raideen · October 2020

Sylvermynx wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS, I know things tend to get lost in the general section and that this has been asked before but... if you see this I wanted to ask/tell you something.

Will you be implementing character transfers between servers and systems? I know its possible manually but takes a while, therefor it must be possible to set up an automated service for this. I mean, if teenage boys in their mother's basements can do it for their MMO private servers surely you can do it for your game. Heck, I'd be willing to pay $100 for such a service if it transferred ALL of our character progress, quest progress, and collections. $100 might seem like much to some players but for someone who's been playing since beta and has an account worth much more than that it would be far better than starting over and worth it.

Developing the automated system would be tricky but once its done its easy money.

The bolded part is false.

ZOS did make a one-off transfer from PC to console when the console version launched but they have said this was able to be done because the destination servers comprised empty databases which wouldn't apply now.

They've made it clear it isn't going to happen, the ability to do it simply isn't there and they don't plan on building it. If they did, they'd have to overcome contractual and testing hurdles with the platform providers (Steam, Microsoft and Sony) who wouldn't in any event take kindly to their customers being able to transfer their accounts away from them.

Not false. They've transfered stuff for me before, from non-empty database to non-empty database. It worked just fine. But it wasn't my account's entire accumulated progress, just some of it.

Well.... we have only your statement. And no one knows the truth thereof, right? Pretty sure ZOS isn't going to verify....

I'm not opposed to high-dollar transfers at this point. I AM opposed to a bajillion people inundating the servers on which I play - which are already pretty damn busy. More people (especially a LOT more people) means that the servers will be - problematic....

What server are you on? PCNA is dead.

VaranisArano · October 2020

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

No. They aren't interested.

Edit: Wrong link, now corrected
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/~/can-i-transfer-my-eso-account-and-characters-between-different-platforms-or

"We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. "

ZOS changes their mind sometimes. Just look at faction changing.

Sure. But look at the date on that link - that's a recently updated statement by ZOS. It was also recently referenced as the answer here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/547474/ps4-xsx-eso-account-due-to-microsofts-acquisition

ZOS_BillE wrote: »

It is not possible for Customer Support, to transfer characters, gear, gold, crowns or items, between different accounts, servers, or platforms. For further details please read through the link below.

Can I transfer my ESO account and characters between different platforms or servers?

Now, sure, ZOS has changed their minds. Like Alliance change. Prior to Elsweyr, they said it was too complicated. A year later, they announce alliance change tokens. Other examples where ZOS changed their mind on QOL features also involved over a year of asking for it.

So even if ZOS changes their mind, I wouldn't hold your breath.

trackdemon5512 · October 2020

IT’S NEVER HAPPENING.

Quoting @hafgood

“ You want to transfer data between 6 servers, which Zos have said repeatedly they have no interest in doing.

Whilst I have no idea as to how the ESO databases are set up its pretty easy to guess that they will be a series of tables all linked using identifiers. Based on my experiences with database conversions (talking large databases with millions of lines within the tables, with data spread across hundreds of tables) I've come up with the following explanation.

Each character exists only on one server, but on that server they have huge amounts of data associated with them, items, dlc, houses, pets, mounts, achievements, etc

Each of these will exist in different tables throughout the database. Each character will have a unique identifier, each item will be linked to that identifier and will have its own unique identifier, and so on.

However each identifier is not unique. It can appear on each database so can appear up to six times and won't be linked to the same character identifier (which of course is linked to an account identifier).

To move characters between databases would require a program that takes the character from database A and moves it to database B. Each unique identifier would have to amended to the next available identifier in the relevant table. This could involve literally 1000's of items.

All this would have to be done while the servers are down as to do it while the servers are up is going to result in conflicts - while its running the conversion new items would be being created in the game, meaning duplicated unique identifiers meaning possible database corruptions.

Database conversions are not easy, especially in a database with billions of rows of data, one mistake, one missed identifier could result in the database corrupting.

So yes it is possible to write a tool that would allow transfer between servers but that tool would need to be very robustly tested before being utilised and transfers would be expensive as the costs associated with writing the tool would need to be recovered.

Add in that conversion could only happen with the system down and all of a sudden maintenance starts to get longer as data is extracted from one database, converted, exported to its new location and then imported into the new server.

Most likely the data extract would take place in one maintenance window and the conversion / import into the new database in the next maintenance window. So at the best you wouldn't be able to play for a week, at worst a fortnight.“

TLDR:

It’s needlessly difficult 6 years in, after the game has already been substantially changed from the last time transfers were allowed, and impractical considering it’s a one-off transaction for a small subset population.

$100 is nothing considering the amount many of you spend on crowns to race change every patch or alliances when your friendships change.

eso_lags · October 2020

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

No. They aren't interested.

Edit: Wrong link, now corrected
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/~/can-i-transfer-my-eso-account-and-characters-between-different-platforms-or

"We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. "

ZOS changes their mind sometimes. Just look at faction changing.

Ya I wouldnt listen to any of these people that act like they know something but literally have no idea. Yes zos has said they wont do it. They have also said they wouldnt do some things, and done them. And said they would do other things and not done them. So you really never know.

I wouldnt get your hopes up though, if they find they can make a lot of money from it maybe they will. But if they have to put in some effort to do it, and dont think they will make a lot of money, then they probably wont. I doubt we will ever get it, but you never know what a dev team might do. Considering the extreme advantages PC players have over console players it would be the right thing to allow transfers to PC, so console players that are willing to can play the game as intended, but that doesnt matter.

hexentb16_ESO · October 2020

eso_lags wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

No. They aren't interested.

Edit: Wrong link, now corrected
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/~/can-i-transfer-my-eso-account-and-characters-between-different-platforms-or

"We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. "

ZOS changes their mind sometimes. Just look at faction changing.

Ya I wouldnt listen to any of these people that act like they know something but literally have no idea. Yes zos has said they wont do it. They have also said they wouldnt do some things, and done them. And said they would do other things and not done them. So you really never know.

I wouldnt get your hopes up though, if they find they can make a lot of money from it maybe they will. But if they have to put in some effort to do it, and dont think they will make a lot of money, then they probably wont. I doubt we will ever get it, but you never know what a dev team might do. Considering the extreme advantages PC players have over console players it would be the right thing to allow transfers to PC, so console players that are willing to can play the game as intended, but that doesnt matter.

I like your reply the most. Sounds like some of these guys are talking about a fundamental law of the universe. Some no's with quotes from ZOS that are contradictory to what they have already done for some players. You're more realistic.

esotoon · October 2020

eso_lags wrote: »

Ya I wouldnt listen to any of these people that act like they know something but literally have no idea. Yes zos has said they wont do it. They have also said they wouldnt do some things, and done them. And said they would do other things and not done them. So you really never know.

One issue people haven't mentioned when comparing to previous changes, is that those changes didn't have a negative financial impact on players, whereas this change does.

ZOS have stated time and again that they're technically unable to do this, and as a result a large number of people have spent money on buying a separate account on a different platform, and then rebuying Crown Store items on that new account, etc. This inability to transfer accounts is also the reason why players who play on the same platform, but who play on both the NA/EU servers have to double up, buying DLCs, Crown Store Items, etc. on both servers instead of the one.

So whilst people may be willing to throw money at ZOS for this change, if they were to make it now, who is going to compensate all those players that are out of pocket to the tune of potentially hundreds of dollars due to being told this change was not possible for 6+ years?

idk · October 2020

VaranisArano wrote: »

No. They aren't interested.

Edit: Wrong link, now corrected
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/~/can-i-transfer-my-eso-account-and-characters-between-different-platforms-or

"We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. "

This.

While Zos has changed their mind on things before, Zos has never changed their mind on something that they have made this strong of a message. This is the only not gonna happen statement Zos has made where they posted it so it would not get lost.

Besides, I cannot recall a thread requesting such a transfer garnering much interest.

BTW, I am not saying Zos will never change their mind. I am just pointing out the reality it is extremely unlikely to happen anytime soon. We all could start over hundreds of times before such a change will happen.

Do not hold your breath.

Taleof2Cities · October 2020

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

eso_lags wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

No. They aren't interested.

Edit: Wrong link, now corrected
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/~/can-i-transfer-my-eso-account-and-characters-between-different-platforms-or

"We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. "

ZOS changes their mind sometimes. Just look at faction changing.

Ya I wouldnt listen to any of these people that act like they know something but literally have no idea. Yes zos has said they wont do it. They have also said they wouldnt do some things, and done them. And said they would do other things and not done them. So you really never know.

I wouldnt get your hopes up though, if they find they can make a lot of money from it maybe they will. But if they have to put in some effort to do it, and dont think they will make a lot of money, then they probably wont. I doubt we will ever get it, but you never know what a dev team might do. Considering the extreme advantages PC players have over console players it would be the right thing to allow transfers to PC, so console players that are willing to can play the game as intended, but that doesnt matter.

I like your reply the most. Sounds like some of these guys are talking about a fundamental law of the universe. Some no's with quotes from ZOS that are contradictory to what they have already done for some players. You're more realistic.

Which of these statements below are more realistic ... when discussing the chance of platform transfers?

1. A one-off transfer of a beta exclusive pet that doesn't have anything to do with populating character database tables for platform transfer.

2. ZOS's statement that they have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform.

idk · October 2020

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

eso_lags wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

No. They aren't interested.

Edit: Wrong link, now corrected
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/~/can-i-transfer-my-eso-account-and-characters-between-different-platforms-or

"We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. "

ZOS changes their mind sometimes. Just look at faction changing.

Ya I wouldnt listen to any of these people that act like they know something but literally have no idea. Yes zos has said they wont do it. They have also said they wouldnt do some things, and done them. And said they would do other things and not done them. So you really never know.

I wouldnt get your hopes up though, if they find they can make a lot of money from it maybe they will. But if they have to put in some effort to do it, and dont think they will make a lot of money, then they probably wont. I doubt we will ever get it, but you never know what a dev team might do. Considering the extreme advantages PC players have over console players it would be the right thing to allow transfers to PC, so console players that are willing to can play the game as intended, but that doesnt matter.

I like your reply the most. Sounds like some of these guys are talking about a fundamental law of the universe. Some no's with quotes from ZOS that are contradictory to what they have already done for some players. You're more realistic.

@hexentb16_ESO

What has been stated in here concerning character transfers to a live server that is contradictory to what Zos has already done for other players?

Will check back for your reply.

Hotdog_23 · October 2020

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS, I know things tend to get lost in the general section and that this has been asked before but... if you see this I wanted to ask/tell you something.

Will you be implementing character transfers between servers and systems? I know its possible manually but takes a while, therefor it must be possible to set up an automated service for this. I mean, if teenage boys in their mother's basements can do it for their MMO private servers surely you can do it for your game. Heck, I'd be willing to pay $100 for such a service if it transferred ALL of our character progress, quest progress, and collections. $100 might seem like much to some players but for someone who's been playing since beta and has an account worth much more than that it would be far better than starting over and worth it.

Developing the automated system would be tricky but once its done its easy money.

A lot of people here on the forums will tell you no and quickly point out why it's no and probably not going to happen. Funny they used to say it was never going to happen but since the introduction of alliance change it's now probably not going to happen vs. never going to happen.

While I agree if transfers do occur it will not be for some time but never say never and it doesn't hurt to ask.

Be safe and have fun

kargen27 · October 2020

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS, I know things tend to get lost in the general section and that this has been asked before but... if you see this I wanted to ask/tell you something.

Will you be implementing character transfers between servers and systems? I know its possible manually but takes a while, therefor it must be possible to set up an automated service for this. I mean, if teenage boys in their mother's basements can do it for their MMO private servers surely you can do it for your game. Heck, I'd be willing to pay $100 for such a service if it transferred ALL of our character progress, quest progress, and collections. $100 might seem like much to some players but for someone who's been playing since beta and has an account worth much more than that it would be far better than starting over and worth it.

Developing the automated system would be tricky but once its done its easy money.

A lot of people here on the forums will tell you no and quickly point out why it's no and probably not going to happen. Funny they used to say it was never going to happen but since the introduction of alliance change it's now probably not going to happen vs. never going to happen.

While I agree if transfers do occur it will not be for some time but never say never and it doesn't hurt to ask.

Be safe and have fun

The difference being ZoS isn't saying no we do not want to do it. With dragons it was a matter of want not ability. With character transfers they are saying not only do they not want to but that they are unable.

Ingenon · October 2020

Reading this link: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/
ZOS says "We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform."

Plans change. I see no harm in asking for this. However, I don't see it happening unless something compels ZOS to build this capability.

trackdemon5512 · October 2020

You can ask to go to the moon. Is it possible? Sure. Does the cost of doing so make sense? Absolutely not. Are you going to go to the moon? I think you know the answer.

A lot of things are feasible with time and effort put into it. But just because it’s possible doesn’t mean it’s justifiable to do so.

ZOS’ resources are better put to use with
- server stabilization
- performance stabilization
- New chapters and dlc
- Improving performance for next-gen versions/sunsetting current versions
- graphical improvements
- Anything to do with cyrodiil
- Anything to do with the crown store
- Etc.

You honestly have a better chance of ZOS developing cross-play for this game than account/character transfers. The former substantially drives player base growth while the former does little. And even cross-play won’t happen unless consoles allow add-ons/mods (they won’t because they’re security risks) or PC gives up theirs (you know that will never happen).

Nomadic_Atmoran · October 2020

VaranisArano wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

leaving money on the table is bad business

Are they leaving money on the table though?

There comes a point where chasing every customer and trying to meet every demand isn't cost effective.

Developing such a transfer system costs money in terms of developer time and effort.

Under the status quo, ZOS also makes money from all the players who do transfer. They buy at least the base game and put in playtime on the new account. In an MMO, time played does equal money. Potentially, they also subscribe and rebuy content, cosmetics, or upgrades.

There is a point at which ZOS makes more money from not letting players transfer and getting some players to start over than they would from charging all players a high price to transfer.

If the math changes on that, I expect to see ZOS work out server transfers (PC/EU to PC/NA, for example) first before they work out crossplay between consoles or PC to console.

ZOS constantly leaves money on the table and it has nothing to do with them spending too much money to implement. If the company has no interest in it they just wont do it. You cant assume that because a company is in it for profit any possible avenue to profit will be explored because it just does not work that way. Plenty of reasons why a company would never entertain an idea even when it seems profitable to outsiders.

Beardimus · October 2020

Raideen wrote: »

leaving money on the table is bad business

Quite the opposite. As people starting from scratch generates them income. The mount upgrades, bags, banks, etc etc etc all the short cuts like mages guild skill lines etc.

Also @hexentb16_ESO they have a mechanism but people abused it last time around. PC accounts where copied for console. But copied not moved. So everyone looked their guilds gold, copied that toon, then moved to the next.
.so console got flooded with whales at the start ZOS couldn't do anything about

Basically people ruin nice things.

TheRealDrRat · October 2020

I really think all games, not just ZOS, should allow you to log into your account and have access to all of you saved data on any driver.

Tandor · October 2020

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS, I know things tend to get lost in the general section and that this has been asked before but... if you see this I wanted to ask/tell you something.

Will you be implementing character transfers between servers and systems? I know its possible manually but takes a while, therefor it must be possible to set up an automated service for this. I mean, if teenage boys in their mother's basements can do it for their MMO private servers surely you can do it for your game. Heck, I'd be willing to pay $100 for such a service if it transferred ALL of our character progress, quest progress, and collections. $100 might seem like much to some players but for someone who's been playing since beta and has an account worth much more than that it would be far better than starting over and worth it.

Developing the automated system would be tricky but once its done its easy money.

The bolded part is false.

ZOS did make a one-off transfer from PC to console when the console version launched but they have said this was able to be done because the destination servers comprised empty databases which wouldn't apply now.

They've made it clear it isn't going to happen, the ability to do it simply isn't there and they don't plan on building it. If they did, they'd have to overcome contractual and testing hurdles with the platform providers (Steam, Microsoft and Sony) who wouldn't in any event take kindly to their customers being able to transfer their accounts away from them.

Not false. They've transfered stuff for me before, from non-empty database to non-empty database. It worked just fine. But it wasn't my account's entire accumulated progress, just some of it.

It was totally false. No character transfers have taken place between servers and platforms, which is what you claimed was possible manually. They copied characters from PC to an empty console database once only, and they copy PC characters from the Live servers to the PC Test server. If you have evidence that they have "implemented character transfers between servers and systems" then please give the details. Otherwise you appear to be claiming one thing and then defending its accuracy by referring to something else altogether.

redlink1979 · October 2020

This has been widely discussed so far. The outcome is always the same: ZOS won't ever transfer accounts or merge servers due to the costs/logistics involved.

Sorry but you need to start from scratch if you intent to change platform.