why does crystal weapon feel like it has a cast time?

Playboy_Shrek

I know it doesn't. but it feels like it does, it feels like am using uppercut. a little worse actually because you can overcast it and cancel the LA (need to fix that). but can they actually make it smoother? it just feels not great to use, and as I mentioned the overcasting issue is very annoying.

Joxer61

its like a cocking of a shotgun sort of motion...just weird....

Reinfarcements

Honestly I wish they'd make both Crystal Weapon and Imbue Weapon last for two light attacks at least, possibly more, just increase the cost of the ability as necessary. Would look better and fix the accidental canceling of the light attack.

Abhaya

Reinfarcements wrote: »

Honestly I wish they'd make both Crystal Weapon and Imbue Weapon last for two light attacks at least, possibly more, just increase the cost of the ability as necessary. Would look better and fix the accidental canceling of the light attack.

Would prefer a normal spammable instead of a clunky, lazy, copy+paste skill that only works on stationary targets at melee range.

For pvp I would never use this except for maybe a gank bow build?

For pve I see it on some builds but I don’t understand why as the armor reduction seems like it would be inferior to weapon skill passives. Especially with the buff to pierce armor next patch.

dazee

I much prefer attacks that mechanically work like Crystal Weapon as a spammable since it means I actually get to USE my weapon.

However it needs to activate much faster for a smoother feel.

BXR_Lonestar

I've been playing around with crystal weapon on my stamsorc werewolf and tbh, its not bad when you are using a bow. It seems like I can shoot the light attack first and then cast crystal weapon and get the bonus damage. But for a melee build, it would definitely be clunky.

Draevik

I like the thought of CW but the delay and such seem very inconsistent. I can never weave it successfully more than 50% of the time, even with metronome-like timing. If they sped up and changed the animation entirely it might be useful.

Perhaps something where they merely shake there hands -- like racking a shotgun with a single hand but obviously faster but less pronounced -- and the weapons basically explode with purple glowing energy like the fighters guild major savagery buff effect. Could look awesome and be useful.

El_Borracho

Its similar to Elemental Weapon, which also has an instant cast time, but that animation takes forever. Makes it a clunky spammable with the light attack. Wish these both worked more like the stamina spammables like Rapid Strikes

Apox

i hate how it doesnt apply to the la directly before it if youre using a melee weapon. i think crushing weapon does. ele weapon and crystal weapons both do to desto staff light attacks as ive used it on my destro bar as tank and even in melee range of the enemy it applied

Playboy_Shrek

Apox wrote: »

i hate how it doesnt apply to the la directly before it if youre using a melee weapon. i think crushing weapon does. ele weapon and crystal weapons both do to desto staff light attacks as ive used it on my destro bar as tank and even in melee range of the enemy it applied

yeah its very obnoxious. it makes you not weave perfectly and often overcast it significantly messing up your dps. its just annoying and needs to be fixed to apply the damage instantly instead of the long animation

AcadianPaladin

Very much a lost opportunity to help raise the floor and encourage/help mid/lower skill players to better weave instead of simply frustrate them. Have the skill do its thing if a LA was used prior instead of after. And no clunky animations/delays of course. That way, the skill actually encourages proper weaving instead of confusing casual players. In its current arrangement, my bowsorc won't use it in favor of several better alternatives. Too bad. Basically, same comments apply to the Psijic skill this one was copied from.

EramTheLiar

It is possible to light attack -> crystal weapon and have the crystal weapon damage be applied to the light attack. It takes practice and it's really easy to mess up. I say this because I've done it, though I can't do it consistently.

The thing that usually catches people about crystal weapon/crushing/imbue/etc is that single-target abilities can't be cast at nothing, but light and heavy attacks can. This means for most abilities you don't find yourself in the situation of being too far away from the target to miss -- if you're too far away, if you're not pointing at a valid target, the button is grayed out and nothing happens. This is not the case with crystal weapon because you can swing light attacks at the air all you want. And I think a lot of the times people think "I'm not getting this weave right" what's actually happen is you're doing the weave just fine, you're just a little too far away from the target, or you're not quite aiming at the target, and you're missing.

(though it is possible to step all over the la+crystal combination. When a fight starts going south I find myself slipping into "I MUST MASH ALL THE BUTTONS" mode and at that point crystal weapon is pretty useless).

Also, there isn't actually an animation delay. The damage crystal weapon does occurs just before the character draws back the weapon, but if you miss or get the timing wrong it throws off your timing even more. It's easier for me to get it right when I'm dual wielding, I find the draw back animation merges more smoothly with the dw light attack. The 2h light attack doesn't really mesh with the quasi conan the barbarian animation crystal weapon and imbue weapon use, which can throw you off even more.

Waffennacht

It does have a slight second delay, but imagine how devastating it would be if it acted like all the other insta casts.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/549176/stamina-sorcerer-circuit-breaker-pvp-archer-no-snipe#latest

Thats my current build that utilizes both abilities on the bow for burst damage