Cyrodiil Test 5 - Big Success?

techyeshic

It wasnt as terrible as last week maybe, but still unacceptable.

Really, I can say when there was 3 in our group, we followed where others in faction were going. Once we got 6 to show up, we went to do our own thing and what seemed clear was basically 80-90% of each faction went to 5he same place. Youd see basically 1 spot where 2 faction stacks fought for 2 hours, another was PvDooring other keeps, and then only small spots of resources getting lit. If you took 6 to 9 we had to a keep; the race was on to hopefully at least burst if not take and get some fights in before the entire faction stack showed up to dispatch you before returning to the original spot.

It's a mentality to stack and I dont think you can code it out, but I'd still try even smaller groups for less heal per person flying around, and 12 is still a lot for say a small group of 3 to venture out and take on without all 3 being very good players running meta. I still want to see hard cap 6-8

zaria

techyeshic wrote: »

It wasnt as terrible as last week maybe, but still unacceptable.

Really, I can say when there was 3 in our group, we followed where others in faction were going. Once we got 6 to show up, we went to do our own thing and what seemed clear was basically 80-90% of each faction went to 5he same place. Youd see basically 1 spot where 2 faction stacks fought for 2 hours, and then only small spots of resources getting lit. If you took 6 to 9 we had to a keep; the race was on to hopefully at least burst if not take and get some fights in before the entire faction stack showed up to dispatch you before returning to the original spot.

It's a mentality to stack and I dont think you can code it out, but I'd still try even smaller groups for less heal per person flying around, and 12 is still a lot for say a small group of 3 to venture out and take on without all 3 being very good players running meta. I still want to see hard cap 6-8

Large groups will win an fight if skill level is equal and you don't jump them like ambush or bombing.

Reducing group size more will make pugs pretty impossible as in low chance for even having an healer group would be to small to do more than take resources or gank.
An guild run will simple run more groups make sure all have healers and coordinated by discord.

nk125x

NO - Skills still not firing - Every skill now desyncs your health, you only see what hit you when you view you death recap

Get an original opinion and stop following everything Fengrush says

LarsS

The lag is as bad as usual on PC/EU Gray Host at primetime.

Palidon

Success? More like a disaster if you ask me. PvP players are leaving fed up with ZOS and their tests. The only thing ZOS is accomplishing is destroying PvP. In beta PvP was awesome massive fights, massive numbers of players in each faction and none of the problems we are seeing and experiencing today. ZOS turned that around with their constant changes.

Palidon

Agalloch wrote: »

MKintr wrote: »

Maybe there was no visible lag, but attacks still did not fire very often.
Gameplay was a mess with mini-groups all over the map, small sieges that took forever and so on. This test only favours discord voice chat groups that can coordinate the same group sizes as before, while all others are left behind. I found gameplay the worst with this test. Large groups with players that contribute their skills and gear to the whole are the core of cyrodiil PvP.

This.

Cyrodiil PVP is about large battles...and was the core of ESO advertising before launch.

Cyrodiil was intented to be like : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfeMROJhXSY

And yes, at start we had huge pvp battles .. but . cut after "lighting patch".

ZOS give our Cyrodiil PVP back!

Thanks!

Have to agree. ZOS had completely ruined PvP with their changes and so called fixes that just created more problems.

Joy_Division

Reporting confirmation bias isn't helping. Even in the crappiest nights, there are portions that are bearable. Because people hate ball / 24 groups, they're going to focus on those times when their server wasn't miserable.

No CP on a Tuesday night and still skill delay and lag during heavy fights.

MCBIZZLE300

Best performance ive had in years, this is definitely the answer along with maybe next weeks tests.

TequilaFire

Do you play PC?
Test isn't on PS4 which you list as your platform.

Larcomar

TequilaFire wrote: »

Do you play PC?
Test isn't on PS4 which you list as your platform.

I don't think that's going to stop people saying how splendid all this is. There's a lot of agenda pushing going on from the anti-zerg lobby.

MinnesotaKid

PC/NA - it was pretty laggy last night w/ the usual skills not firing, rubber banding, and freeze ups around large fights.
On the plus side I did not get disconnected last night which is better than last week's mess.
One night does not make a trend though so take that for what it's worth..

nk125x

Larcomar wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Do you play PC?
Test isn't on PS4 which you list as your platform.

I don't think that's going to stop people saying how splendid all this is. There's a lot of agenda pushing going on from the anti-zerg lobby.

So true - They want Cyrodill turned into a bunch of duels where they can win with their tank no death builds

Lintashi

Why zos hates healers so much? We are not needed in pve outside trials, cos everyone goes 3dd for dungeos, and now we are limited with 12 ppl. Just slot self heal and pvp. Also, more and more one-shot mechanics are introduced with every patch. As a dedicated healer, I am disappointed. But I almost quit pvp anyway, not like I can outheal 25k proc one shot anyway.

MasterSpatula

The lag is actually not just the worst of the tests, but worse than I've seen in a while. Meanwhile, the conditions of this week's test don't just reward but encourage some of the least-fun types of gameplay this game has.

It's not just bad. It's outright mean.

OOJIMMY

Where are the NA servers located? I've been playing NA no cp for the last 6 months and even during prime time give fights I have yet to noticeably lag.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

Monday night was good but last night was completely unplayable. It doesn't matter if you limit the group size, there are still faction stacks which is the problem. ZOS needs to start penalties for running 30+ in the same area.

EdmondDontes

It's the weekend. It doesn't matter what test they running, once player numbers server wide go up, lag goes up. Ball groups make it worse, but overall, it's just weekend numbers I think that causes most of the problems.

sup

Pc-NA still totally awful. Multiple second delay on everything, if it fires at all. No idea what or who is hitting me until I’m already dead. Basically no difference in performance.

ParaViking

Agalloch wrote: »

MKintr wrote: »

Maybe there was no visible lag, but attacks still did not fire very often.
Gameplay was a mess with mini-groups all over the map, small sieges that took forever and so on. This test only favours discord voice chat groups that can coordinate the same group sizes as before, while all others are left behind. I found gameplay the worst with this test. Large groups with players that contribute their skills and gear to the whole are the core of cyrodiil PvP.

This.

Cyrodiil PVP is about large battles...and was the core of ESO advertising before launch.

Cyrodiil was intented to be like : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfeMROJhXSY

And yes, at start we had huge pvp battles .. but . cut after "lighting patch".

ZOS give our Cyrodiil PVP back!

Thanks!

The good old days...

BRogueNZ

Wing wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

So you can't heal someone not in your group about to die? You just watch it happen?

pretty much, though iirc ground placed healing still works like ritual, grand healing, etc.

not correct

the purge of ritual works, not the heal, nor grand healing

even the res ult of necro's seems to be broken

sometimes going to have a full time job changing tool tips..

TX12001rwb17_ESO

I like this idea of not being able to heal another unless grouped, i for one run solo with a resto-staff and lets just say a lot of players "Steal" the heals I need for myself.

techyeshic

No. Bad still. Been getting a new thing. At maybe just over a 3rd health, still trying to get a purge or heal off; " you cant do that while dead." Whaaa? *fall over dead*

Miswar

Recap.

- Lags as usual
- The skills fire once in a blue moon
- Desyncs as usual

No improvements whatsover with your aoe tests as expected.

These tests are going as well as your "performance plan" right down the toilet.

Maybe ask Microsoft provide you some actual server hardware and coders. This joking around sure is not doing any good.

EdmondDontes

When it's repeatedly happening on the weekend and evenings, with higher population numbers, regardless of what test they running, that should be a pretty fair indicator of what is going on all by itself. The servers aren't keeping up with the load.

gatekeeper13

I was fighting a guy yesterday. Fight was going good for me. And while my health was 100%, it suddenly dropped from 100%-0% with only 1 hit.

I was like "what the hell happened here", did he hit me with a bazooka or sth?

Checked my recap and saw this. 3 LA, poison dmg and 1 HA although I never got hit by 4 different attacks but only 1 that dropped my health directly from 100% to 0%.

This is a clear case of desync and a sign that server is still working like trash.

techyeshic

EdmondDontes wrote: »

When it's repeatedly happening on the weekend and evenings, with higher population numbers, regardless of what test they running, that should be a pretty fair indicator of what is going on all by itself. The servers aren't keeping up with the load.

I've always found it interesting that while it can be pop locked through the week and be "ok" it is much worse on weekends when its pop locked and there is a bigger queue to get in. Almost as if the server cannot handle a constant check for population numbers.

danthemann5

Test week 5, and lag is the worst I've ever seen it. If these are pass/fail tests, they've all failed. Hopefully that's not the case and they're actually collecting usable data to actually fix the underlying issues.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

I was fighting a guy yesterday. Fight was going good for me. And while my health was 100%, it suddenly dropped from 100%-0% with only 1 hit.

I was like "what the hell happened here", did he hit me with a bazooka or sth?

Checked my recap and saw this. 3 LA, poison dmg and 1 HA although I never got hit by 4 different attacks but only 1 that dropped my health directly from 100% to 0%.

This is a clear case of desync and a sign that server is still working like trash.

i found that 2 but i get 1 la and 16 procs of posion from one person

gatekeeper13

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

i found that 2 but i get 1 la and 16 procs of posion from one person

Jesus Christ.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/355038932427341825/765270397959929916/0000000.1.PNGall i can say is, i know zos is testing things but did they have to give the guards ingame sets