New NPC concept in home .... Useless and boring?

Inaya1

I was disappointed by this. I personally. But I think it will improve over time, because it is completely boring thing. Yes, they can run around your house along the designated route and talk if you open a dialogue with them.

I would like an interesting system that would allow you to use your cosmetic collectibles on NPCs in your home, such as a miner's outfit and a two-handed cadwell shovel or miner's pick weapon outfit to make a sort of... mine in your home. And of course the same emotions. What's the point of being an NPC if he can't do the emotions you want.






Oh, yes, admit, you have long dreamed of a lustful Argonian maid in your house, dirty n'wah.




Well, or at least a unit of soldiers in your personal garrison

barney2525

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

WeerW3ir

barney2525 wrote: »

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

Except that that the houseguests would definetly need more than 3 line to talk. because now they feel like a random killable npc in any city

Luke_Flamesword

I have ideas a little more interesting (Option for your ideas in the comments)

What houseguest need (if they really want to sell it for crowns) is more life and interactions. I really hope that pathfinding system will be more complex, because if house guest only stands and optonially walks with open map it just looks lame. What we need is more interactions with furnitures - sitting, laying down on bed, eating and more idle animations. Now it's just don't look like real guest, but like some lifeless dummy.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn

barney2525 wrote: »

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

Gosh I so agree with this... we just got a massive house for free and all I see are posts about how the house guests could be better or that we don't have enough furnishing slots.

Seriously??

Luke_Flamesword

I have ideas a little more interesting (Option for your ideas in the comments)

But we don't talk about only this one house guest but about whole concept - there will be more guests (in crown store mostly), so this is not talking about free gift...

Inaya1

Good idea

delenn35 wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

Gosh I so agree with this... we just got a massive house for free and all I see are posts about how the house guests could be better or that we don't have enough furnishing slots.

Seriously??

Of course, no one is complaining. The awards are very good, I am personally glad.

But let's look at the situation soberly: The house they gave us is still a HOUSE not a NEW MECHANIC or FURNISHING. There are so many of them, and this is just a great gift that the ZOS gave you. Personally, I even agree with 600 slots. It's just that some people need a flight of imagination more than the usual limit, and in a sense, yes, even 700 slots are often not enough. I would not mind buying even a slot expansion for crowns if it were possible.

But guests are a separate thing. This "Phaedra" guest was wadaned to us for a preliminary examination of the "possibilities" of guests in the house. Because soon (In Markarth) new guests will be created, this time for CROWNS. So, what to pay for if the guest plays the role of a mannequin? Yes, he's talking. One (random dialogue). And that's all he has to offer you as a "new guest concept" in your home. He is like a non-combat pet, only the pet will run with you in cyrodiil and in the open world, and will also move along the route like the "guest" NPC. So take a closer look at this.

gatekeeper13

It would be nice if they could do some stuff like they did in Skyrim.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn

Inaya1 wrote: »

delenn35 wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

Gosh I so agree with this... we just got a massive house for free and all I see are posts about how the house guests could be better or that we don't have enough furnishing slots.

Seriously??

Of course, no one is complaining. The awards are very good, I am personally glad.

But let's look at the situation soberly: The house they gave us is still a HOUSE not a NEW MECHANIC or FURNISHING. There are so many of them, and this is just a great gift that the ZOS gave you. Personally, I even agree with 600 slots. It's just that some people need a flight of imagination more than the usual limit, and in a sense, yes, even 700 slots are often not enough. I would not mind buying even a slot expansion for crowns if it were possible.

But guests are a separate thing. This "Phaedra" guest was wadaned to us for a preliminary examination of the "possibilities" of guests in the house. Because soon (In Markarth) new guests will be created, this time for CROWNS. So, what to pay for if the guest plays the role of a mannequin? Yes, he's talking. One (random dialogue). And that's all he has to offer you as a "new guest concept" in your home. He is like a non-combat pet, only the pet will run with you in cyrodiil and in the open world, and will also move along the route like the "guest" NPC. So take a closer look at this.

In reference to how many furnishing slots... 600 is great for this house. I think of Bastion Sanguinaris and the limit is 700 there and so much bigger. For me, 600 is perfect here... and I would never question what has been given to me freely.

Zulera301

I have ideas a little more interesting (Option for your ideas in the comments)

it's a step in the right direction. What I really want to see are customization options, such as the ability to place our own characters in our house. It'd help those of us who want to show our friends all of our characters but that don't want to suffer through 45 minutes of load screens just to do so.

tgrippa

Good idea

They took this idea from FO76, if they went down that route fully (i.e. lots more dialogue, customisation and the house guests giving you quests) then it could end up being a really cool thing.

Sylvermynx

I dont know

I don't know yet. I'm - on the fence on this one. I'm not thrilled with NPCs in this game overall. And I would much rather have my alts as potential house guests.

But I do like the pathing setup.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Why do people want to add such complicated things? Like being able to add collectible appearances to houseguests or place our own characters as quests. How are they supposed to implement that? They are trying to make ESO run smoother, not make a recipe for disaster with all the data that will require and bugs/glitches it will cause.

I'm happy with them just adding various houseguests. Including bards and generic ones I can place multiple of, like guards. Because having one single nord guard is weird.
Along with having them able to sit in chairs or tell them to do one of their animations. Like setting a dog pet to hold its lie down animation for that spot.

Dojohoda

I hope, now that they have made pathing possible, they will make emotes possible for the house guests and, hopefully, also the assistants.

AcadianPaladin

Poll is biased and unclear.

I very much appreciate this free entry into houseguests. I find Phedre's personality charming and am impressed by the depth of her dialogue so it is not repetitive. And we can certainly not argue with the price!

I won't be surprised at all if future houseguests might include bards, bakers and a variety of possibilities, but Phedre is a great opening entry in my opinion.

what_the

Inaya1 wrote: »

I was disappointed by this...

barney2525 wrote: »

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

THIS /\ people can be very unappreciative...

etchedpixels

If you don't like her you can put her in a cage over a firepit and surround it with daedric furniture.

I'm not going to be buying houseguests from the crown store that is for sure but the free one you can even just not use if you don't like it.

CoronHR

just because we got something for free doesn't mean we can't complain about it. free your mind!

barney2525

It's an old fashioned concept - Appreciation

You, as a child, have never gone with your family, on Christmas morning, to your grand parents home, to meet with both sets of grand parents and your Aunts, Uncles and Cousins, and then sat around for 2 hours watching everyone open their presents - and at the end of it all, You got None.

I do not expect gifts, and when I do get one I appreciate it and Never say anything negative, no matter what it is.

They do not HAVE to give us gifts - and I Appreciate it when they do.

IMHO

Kiralyn2000

Hmm.

I guess I didn't expect more from houseguests, partially because the last "add NPCs to your house" thing I played with was strongholds in SWtOR. Which didn't even have pathing or interacting. They were just placed decorations.


re: equipping the houseguests.
1. Seems like asking for even more lag/etc - after all, if the house item placement limit is to keep the data overhead down, what would having customizable appearances for houseguests do?
2. If you can equip them with whatever cosmetics you have, there's less need to get other Houseguests for their appearances.

Araneae6537

delenn35 wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

Gosh I so agree with this... we just got a massive house for free and all I see are posts about how the house guests could be better or that we don't have enough furnishing slots.

Seriously??

The lovely free house and houseguest are wonderful! All, or at least most of us, are not complaining about that, but rather saying what features we would like to see in houseguests we would pay Crowns for.

A degree of customizability would be great — like in SWTOR you could customize not only the gear of your companions but choose from among a variety of skins/appearances (I forgot what they were called). That way even though everyone had among the same few companions, it didn’t look as much like lots of clones running around.

I feel like the dialogue options for the guard and other “staff” type houseguests are appropriate. With Phaedre, I was expecting to get into some dialogue trees about esoterica, her current research, or something, but maybe that would not add much. Now the bard from Rimmen, mmm, I’d gladly have her as a houseguest even without pathing or a single word to me beyond her beautiful songs!

Some houseguests I would love to see:
Additional merchant or barkeep types because whether making a store or a village, it would be helpful to have “storekeepers” of every race at least. I don’t mean more summonable merchants (although more options in bankers and merchants would be welcome too).
I think it’s cool that there are houseguests with their own personalities and backstories and am especially looking forward to adding another Alfiq to the party! I do think it would be awesome to also have sort of “blank slate” npc houseguests that you could choose race and basic appearance and even among basic temperament and dialogue options. I love to personalize things and try to set a mood or even tell a story with my builds. While the voice actors are all wonderful, I would really love to have npc houseguests where I could write whole original dialogue trees! Yes, people could use this to write really offensive stuff, but how is that any different from chat?

SilverBride

Perhaps I have a negative opinion about this. (Yes, we understand that there can be embarrassment in some cases ... Can you, if it's not difficult, explain why you don't like it? :x)

I have a personal house for each of my characters, and I treat these houses as though they were their real homes. I don't want people walking around my house so my characters don't either.

However I did put the guest in my new Antiquarians house because it's not a private home. I could imagine bartenders, waitresses, workers etc. in these types of homes.

Ascarl

I have ideas a little more interesting (Option for your ideas in the comments)

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

re: equipping the houseguests.
1. Seems like asking for even more lag/etc - after all, if the house item placement limit is to keep the data overhead down, what would having customizable appearances for houseguests do?
2. If you can equip them with whatever cosmetics you have, there's less need to get other Houseguests for their appearances.

Did you ever experience lag in housing areas? I have experienced lag pretty much anywhere but houses.

Radiance

I dont know

I'm not a big fan of this new NPC thing mostly bc it is a strange random carbon copy creation that can't be personalized.

Someone had the idea of making your Alternate Characters NPCs that can be placed in houses and I think that is an amazing Idea.

Inaya1

Good idea

what_the wrote: »

Inaya1 wrote: »

I was disappointed by this...

barney2525 wrote: »

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

THIS /\ people can be very unappreciative...

etchedpixels wrote: »

If you don't like her you can put her in a cage over a firepit and surround it with daedric furniture.

I'm not going to be buying houseguests from the crown store that is for sure but the free one you can even just not use if you don't like it.

CoronHR wrote: »

just because we got something for free doesn't mean we can't complain about it. free your mind!

barney2525 wrote: »

It's an old fashioned concept - Appreciation

You, as a child, have never gone with your family, on Christmas morning, to your grand parents home, to meet with both sets of grand parents and your Aunts, Uncles and Cousins, and then sat around for 2 hours watching everyone open their presents - and at the end of it all, You got None.

I do not expect gifts, and when I do get one I appreciate it and Never say anything negative, no matter what it is.

They do not HAVE to give us gifts - and I Appreciate it when they do.

IMHO

Please read everything completely before jumping to conclusions. Nobody says that the free NPC in the house is "bad, you need to remove it and generally the zos is bad." Here we are talking about improving what will be and what is so far in the test stage. After all, soon a lot of NPCs will be sold in the Crownstore to which ....... U can Register a route and they will just walk along it, that's it, no more functions right now.

It is here that the discussion is going on in order to convey the fact that "to put it mildly, NPCs as a new mechanic need to be improved, because they look like a stub from a single piece"

essi2

The house guests are cosmetics, just like almost everything else in the housing system.. what did you people expect!?

cyclonus11

I have ideas a little more interesting (Option for your ideas in the comments)

I was expecting to be able to add emotes to the pathing. Kinda useless as it is.

cyclonus11

I have ideas a little more interesting (Option for your ideas in the comments)

cyclonus11 wrote: »

I was expecting to be able to add emotes to the pathing. Kinda useless as it is.

Edit: Like have a guest stop at a bookshelf and open a book to read, then walk over to the bar and down some grog, etc. Or have my guar walk over to a patch of grass and graze.

volkeswagon

barney2525 wrote: »

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

It's not the free houseguest they're complaining about, its the concept. The fear is that when they start rolling out houseguests in the crown store next week that they won't be worth buying because they don't do anything. It would have been nice to have an extensive conversation involving question choices for us to ask them or perhaps havev them perform random emotes etc. People were excited about the possibility of adding future interesting houseguests but are worrying the excitement is unwarranted fearing they don't do anything but say 3 random phrases.

TineaCruris

Housing is a distraction from the actual game IMO. Expending dev resources for anything other than fixing the bugs at this time is a misuse of resources.

Marcus684

Inaya1 wrote: »

delenn35 wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

Is there Anything, that is given out free, that people will Not complain about ?


Just curious

IMHO

Gosh I so agree with this... we just got a massive house for free and all I see are posts about how the house guests could be better or that we don't have enough furnishing slots.

Seriously??

Of course, no one is complaining...

Proceeds to complain...