Minor Magickasteal Nerf

Apox

Please don't. Small scale groups already suffer with sustain as it is. Hollowfang is almost a required set in all content even before it was nerfed.

Bringing sustain down further is just going to lead to more frustrating gameplay

Pretty much everything else I saw today was at least understandable, but please dont kill what little mag sustain magdps have

CyberOnEso

This is mitigated by Major and Minor intellect being buffed significantly.

Presume you had 900 unbuffed magicka recovery.
Last patch with buffs (Major, Minor Intellect + Magickasteal) you would have (900+(900*0.1)+(900*0.2))/2 + 300 regen per second = 885 regen per second
This patch with buffs (Major, Minor Intellect + Magickasteal) you will have (900+(900*0.2)+(900*0.4))/2 + 168 regen per second = 888 regen per second

Here is a graph showing the changes to magicka recovery you should see while being fully buffed between the patches:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tAl4WJhhxM4aPSPGw-m8ZmJcfdnX8JfZ6XYUC0xGL44/edit?usp=sharing

TimeDazzler

Its a good change, imagine if stamina had a weapon skill that gave 300 stamina/sec and major fracture for 0 cost. Plus you can use the OP staff next patch for 2K dmg/sec plus status effects for free

MashmalloMan

Minor and Major Endurance/Intellect were both buffed, increasing overall magicka and stamina regen by +30% combined. The nerf to this debuff is not only warranted, but also a nice way of removing some of the requirement from the debuff into other aspects of the game.

It's practically impossible as a magicka DD to perform without magicka steal on live, nothing in the game should be make or break, it's effectively 600 magicka regen that seems to only be in the game as a counter to the -15% cost stamina skills get in terms of straight dps parsing.

Think about how that effects the skill gap or players that just don't want to slot drain or siphon, it seems to be in a much healthier spot. A nice boost to sustain, but no longer an absolute requirement.

kringled_1

Sources for the minor buffs are very limited though, to the point where I don't think they can be counted on

Apox

the "op staff" wont be as op as it seems. it doesnt give sustain, it just adds a tether dot to ele drain. the regen from ele drain is getting cut in half which results in a net loss of the equivalent of 300 magicka recovery. the resto staff from vateshran probably wont be used over the vdsa resto which does the same thing but much more reliably and is already on most healers

minor endurance/intellect is pretty rare. only source of minor int is sorc ward, enchanted growth and restoring aura, only source of minor endurance is circle of protection and the same latter 2 from before. just because you read the buff in the patch notes doesnt mean its going to help because these minor buffs are very rare. if you want access to them you have to be a magsorc or templar, run an ability you usually wouldnt, or get healed by a warden running an ability they usually wouldnt.

if we did have easy access to minor end/int it would probably be pretty close to okay.

sustain is just in such a poor place right now for magicka

I recognize the buff to endurance and int, but its not enough. it might be fine if they got buffed and magickasteal didnt get nerfed, but as it is theres going to be a hollowfang and vdsa resto in pretty much every group even with ele drain and thats probably how its going to stay. when i tank for my group running 3 dps i flex ele drain on and they still end up heavy attacking for resource.