I LOVE THE UI TEAM

CaffeinatedMayhem

Added searching, filtering, and sorting to banks and Guild banks in Gamepad Mode.

THANK YOU! Finally, , I can have the same functionality as keyboard users! I hope this applies to consoles as well, because I know the pain.

Baertram

The pain now is on the addon dev's side to adopt all addons providing the filters for the last 6 years
Well, glad it was finally added to the vanilla UI, could have been done way earlier though.

Recapitated

Baertram wrote: »

The pain now is on the addon dev's side to adopt all addons providing the filters for the last 6 years
Well, glad it was finally added to the vanilla UI, could have been done way earlier though.

The only thing I love more than the UI team is the add-on devs.

CaffeinatedMayhem

@Baertram Well, the gamepad UI currently doesn't let addons modify the UI at all. I can get MM to insert values for prices, but only immediately after viewing my bank. Will this change allow addons like Inventory Insight or Advanced Filters to actually affect Gamepad UI?

I don't see an API update in the Natch Potes... so possibly addons won't have to be changed.

Baertram

That's wrong. The gamepad UI let's addons change the UI in total, at least on PC. Console does not allow addons that's true that you cannot change anything there.

AF and IIfA could have been affecting GamepadUi all the time already, on the PC.
But the effort to do so is just too high as you'd have to code the whole addon once for keyboard and once for gamepad mode. Makes it 2 addons to keep updated, working and tested.
Controls, scenes and other stuff in the background are existing twice and thus you'd need to adopt the addons to the current activated mode (keyboard/gamepad).

Some addons whicha re small can handle this. But bigger addons with many cross-addon compatibility won't be able to handle this due to time issues e.g.
Or I for myself e.g., as I do not own any gamepad nor am used to play with one, decided to not support the gamepad mode.

The vanilla UI changes are cool and I appreciate them. It's just tricky now to find out how they were added by ZOs and what to adopt in existing addons + libraries to make it compatible and all work together, like before.
e.g. subfilterbars of AF will be at the same position where the vanilla UI adds their new ones: Needs us to suppress the vanilla ones as AF was activated.
Same applies to other filter addons, search box addons, crafting addons, and all other UI stuff that was touched with the vanilla UI changes now.

At best: One will be able to use ZOs new code to improve the addons as well in the future. Like they added the subfilter bars with their new API functions and AF can reuse them for it's own need as well.

But the downside is: Everything you need to change needs the understanding how it was done by Zos first, apply changes to support your exisitng addon coded + new code, several tests (across different addons), etc. That will take a lot of time and will to do.

Hope it will be fun to find out and adopt this time

CaffeinatedMayhem

Um... I've been using gamepad mode since it was introduced, and at no time has an addon been able to modify the UI. I have to switch to keyboard mode to use Awesome guild store, and IIA right now. Shissu's can't even be in my addons list without throwing errors when loading in gamepad mode.

This is why so many addons use pop up windows, because gamepad users will get errors/crashes if the addon attempts to modify the UI when in gamepad mode.

I have IIA and AGS actvie on all my characters right now, and no, the gamepad UI is NOT modified. I know Philgo tried to work MM into gamepad UI and couldn't, same with @R_K and EHT.

The gamepad ui is essentially the same as on console, addons cannot modify it.

CaffeinatedMayhem

Update: though it would be nice if I could search my own inventory too.

ZarkingFrued

Yeah if they could just add a universal search that will locate any item on any character on your account we would be talking.

snakebitten

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Um... I've been using gamepad mode since it was introduced, and at no time has an addon been able to modify the UI. I have to switch to keyboard mode to use Awesome guild store, and IIA right now. Shissu's can't even be in my addons list without throwing errors when loading in gamepad mode.

This is why so many addons use pop up windows, because gamepad users will get errors/crashes if the addon attempts to modify the UI when in gamepad mode.

I have IIA and AGS actvie on all my characters right now, and no, the gamepad UI is NOT modified. I know Philgo tried to work MM into gamepad UI and couldn't, same with @R_K and EHT.

The gamepad ui is essentially the same as on console, addons cannot modify it.

This is because the Keyboard & Gamepad UI's are coded differently with somewhat separated API's. So the add-on developers have to specifically support both UI's and maintaining the add-on for just a single UI can be painstaking at times in itself. So most stick with keyboard UI only.

Anyways the add-on I maintain, BetterUI, isn't perfect but definitely modifies the inventory, banking & tooltip gamepad UI scenes. Among many other features it does add pricing info (no graph history, etc.) from MM, TTC and ATT in the item info tooltip window.