Since when we have gender locked collectibles?????!!!!!

Env_t

[snip]
i need to wear it on all my toons
all genders must have equal opportunities

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[Edited to remove Demands and threats]

Nord_Raseri

Since always.

Vevvev

Nord_Raseri wrote: »

Since always.

^ This

Its nothing new here in ESO to have gender locked things.

DMuehlhausen

There have always been gender and race locked cosmetic items

redgreensunset

Since always. Look at the cosmetics in collection, lost of stuff can only be used by either male or female characters. Absolutely infuriating I agree, but it is what it is.

JoeCapricorn

I remember seeing race locked items, but this is the first gender locked item I've seen.

It doesn't really make much sense because A) similar cosmetic items are not gender locked and B ) Men can wear dresses and jewelry and women can wear suits

And now that this has been pointed out, I want to wear this specific item on my male characters.

idk

I suggest OP reword the first sentence and use a word other than demand. Zos listens to well thought constructive feedback but will not deal with demands. They have said as much.

Syldras

There had been discussions about this topic twice already this month. Normally it was about the other cosmetic reward, the long beard, though. Ladies who want to wear fake beards.

It's strange that this item is genderlocked, though. My main char often wears the Dwemer circlet you get as an antiquity from Western Skyrim (which suits him well :P ). It doesn't look that different from that Seastone thing and it isn't genderlocked.

Syldras

Raudgrani wrote: »

This is how people are bringing real life politics into something that's supposed to be amusing and relaxing

What exactly is "rl politics" about wanting your male character to be able to wear this circlet (or "browplate" or whatever)?

WARchief10K

Syldras wrote: »

Raudgrani wrote: »

This is how people are bringing real life politics into something that's supposed to be amusing and relaxing

What exactly is "rl politics" about wanting your male character to be able to wear this circlet (or "browplate" or whatever)?

I mean first of all, there's like 100 circlets and *** male chars can wear, 2nd of all most people aren't even zoomed enough to see this crap, and third of all, it's a video game, maybe it's just not sized for male characters and they never bothered to do it.

You want the team to kick in and start sizing this for male chars when 99% of the population probably isn't even gonna use it?

I can't even attack in game right now reliably, there's more important things.

Syldras

WARchief10K wrote: »

I can't even attack in game right now reliably, there's more important things.

You can complain that it's a less important issue. But what does it have to do with rl politics?

Minyassa

It's always been a thing. That's why there have been threads with people asking for it to be removed, because it doesn't make any sense.

Mystic_wolf479

WARchief10K wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

Raudgrani wrote: »

This is how people are bringing real life politics into something that's supposed to be amusing and relaxing

What exactly is "rl politics" about wanting your male character to be able to wear this circlet (or "browplate" or whatever)?

I mean first of all, there's like 100 circlets and *** male chars can wear, 2nd of all most people aren't even zoomed enough to see this crap, and third of all, it's a video game, maybe it's just not sized for male characters and they never bothered to do it.

You want the team to kick in and start sizing this for male chars when 99% of the population probably isn't even gonna use it?

I can't even attack in game right now reliably, there's more important things.

I don't think it's so much about seeing it as it is being messy and not standardized.

ShawnLaRock

The dimensions of my forehead / jawline (read: in-game model) can be the same on any gender... soooooo, why can’t I use the 2 Daily Rewards this month on any character I choose that wants to rock a Browplate or a gnarly Chin-Trinkit (lol love the name)?

S.

Nord_Raseri

JoeCapricorn wrote: »

I remember seeing race locked items, but this is the first gender locked item I've seen.

It's treated just like the other 10 or so gender locked circlets, half-circlets, and flowers you can find during character creation or if you've bought theadornments pack.

zaria

Env_t wrote: »

[snip]
i need to wear it on all my toons
all genders must have equal opportunities

[snip]


[Edited to remove Demands and threats]

Yes that one make no sense, can kind of understand beards, and get that some designs don't work for Argonians and Khajiit but that is more of an practical thing.

zaria

Syldras wrote: »

Raudgrani wrote: »

This is how people are bringing real life politics into something that's supposed to be amusing and relaxing

What exactly is "rl politics" about wanting your male character to be able to wear this circlet (or "browplate" or whatever)?

Good point you can wear dresses as males anyway, remember we did BG as an group all dressed in that viking styled reward dress as an uniform, I had the only female character

Jayman1000

If you are a certain gender you are not allowed to wear certain clothes or accessories. It's been like this since the dawn of man, why should it be any different in ESO?

And here is proof that some men from old ages long gone had prohibitionistic ideas about clothes, it's nothing new really highly realistic:

Dont_do_drugs

i want beards for female chars, if male chars are free to wear dresses. free choice for everyone!

Syldras

Jayman1000 wrote: »

If you are a certain gender you are not allowed to wear certain clothes or accessories.

First question: Why are male characters allowed to wear some circlets/browplates/crowns and some not, although they almost look the same?

Second question: Characters can break the law by being a thief or even a mass murderer, but if there's a rule "You're a guy, you cannot wear that!!!" they would care?

Sephyr

Syldras wrote: »

Jayman1000 wrote: »

If you are a certain gender you are not allowed to wear certain clothes or accessories.

First question: Why are male characters allowed to wear some circlets/browplates/crowns and some not, although they almost look the same?

Second question: Characters can break the law by being a thief or even a mass murderer, but if there's a rule "You're a guy, you cannot wear that!!!" they would care?

I swear, it's like some folks don't see the male characters in dresses or feminine outfits. That makes their entire argument shakey at best given that the authority that supposedly 'deems' it not allowed. Seems rather allowed to me. If a male orc can wear a wedding dress, we should be able to wear the circlet.

DarcyMardin

There shouldn’t be any gender locked items.

CaffeinatedMayhem

JoeCapricorn wrote: »

I remember seeing race locked items, but this is the first gender locked item I've seen.

Apparently you haven't looked a facial hair, hair styles adornments, and makeup. Yes, we have had LOTS of gender locked collectibles since beta.

Yes, people have complained about it. ZOS hasn't done anything in 6 years, so don't hold your breath.

Galwylin

Yeah you find that for lots of the things like everyone else said. The only thing I've found that's shared which seemed gender specific was lipstick and eyeshadow. So of course I use it on some of my male toons because. And female characters can wear almost everything males can except beards. At least as this writing.

Jayman1000

If you are a certain gender you are not allowed to wear certain clothes or accessories. It's been like this since the dawn of man, why should it be any different in ESO?

And here is proof that some men from old ages long gone had prohibitions about clothes, it's nothing new really highly realistic:

Syldras wrote: »

Jayman1000 wrote: »

If you are a certain gender you are not allowed to wear certain clothes or accessories.

First question: Why are male characters allowed to wear some circlets/browplates/crowns and some not, although they almost look the same?

Second question: Characters can break the law by being a thief or even a mass murderer, but if there's a rule "You're a guy, you cannot wear that!!!" they would care?

All im saying is this has been so for thousands of years, prohibitionistic ideas about gender special gender clothing is nothing new. Why change this in this day and age? ESO after all takes place in some kind of medieval fantasy and as we all know medieval folks were pretty backwards people living in the past and all, so gender specific clothing restrictions were one of many strong cultural values of that time periods.

kargen27

Whenever there is a thread like this I feel compelled to post this image.

zaria

kargen27 wrote: »

Whenever there is a thread like this I feel compelled to post this image.

Its perfect, it looks the sort of official place you would register an marriage outside churches.
However in these cases wedding dresses tend not to be used unless you are atheist and have an wedding party afterwards.

Now I guess this is an random image who make it more fun.

More seriously fashion is purely cultural, but an trend has been long dresses for ladies, but this tended to be higher status to. Lots of times this was trending for men to but more less so and fell out of fashion with riding.
In Tamriel it looks like long robes are favored among magic users and other intellectuals. for others it dresses for the ladies.
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kargen27

zaria wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Whenever there is a thread like this I feel compelled to post this image.

Its perfect, it looks the sort of official place you would register an marriage outside churches.
However in these cases wedding dresses tend not to be used unless you are atheist and have an wedding party afterwards.

Now I guess this is an random image who make it more fun.

More seriously fashion is purely cultural, but an trend has been long dresses for ladies, but this tended to be higher status to. Lots of times this was trending for men to but more less so and fell out of fashion with riding.
In Tamriel it looks like long robes are favored among magic users and other intellectuals. for others it dresses for the ladies.
.

The character in the tux is mine. For a while any time I saw a male character in a dress I would put on that tux and try to make it look like we were holding hands for a screenshot. They crack me up. On another character I tried to pose with every new species of animal I came across in the game even if it was trying to kill me.
I have a lot of screenshots.

Radiance

I didn't actually know that Adornment piece was Female Only! LOL That's funny like they tried to make it fair somehow. I can see how a female toon cant use a beard but there's no reason a male can't use that adornment. How absurd!

Sylvermynx

Eh.... the beard is so over the top. It's one of those things that will sit there in the Facial Hair screen forever unused. The browplate is nice, and I'm using it - but it's no big deal that my guys can't use it.

*shrug* It's just not a big deal to me.

Radiance

Jayman1000 wrote: »

All im saying is this has been so for thousands of years, prohibitionistic ideas about gender special gender clothing is nothing new. Why change this in this day and age? ESO after all takes place in some kind of medieval fantasy and as we all know medieval folks were pretty backwards people living in the past and all, so gender specific clothing restrictions were one of many strong cultural values of that time periods.

Why evolve?
I don't understand the question... I suppose you think women voting was also a bad idea?
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