Dark Shade attacks innocents

Oingloin · August 2020

The "new" dark shade attacks innocents sometimes. (prevent attacking innocents is activated). Please fix this bug.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · August 2020

Hey @Oingloin where did you experience this? (What zone and area?) And what types of innocents did your Dark Shade attack? The NPC names or at least location would be helpful.

parietic · August 2020

Can confirm this is happening to me too.

https://youtu.be/KQ-K-hhteRY

This was in Rimmen in Northern Elsweyr, the npc was next to the shrine and her name is Sharrasti.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · August 2020

Thank you for the video @parietic! It's super helpful and we're investigating. @Oingloin could you let us know if you experienced this issue in the same area, or somewhere else?

Oingloin · August 2020

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Thank you for the video @parietic! It's super helpful and we're investigating. @Oingloin could you let us know if you experienced this issue in the same area, or somewhere else?

Craglorn (Belkarth): guards, Zibaran, Khudriran. Seems like it works on all npcs if you try long enough.

Oingloin · August 2020

Oingloin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Thank you for the video @parietic! It's super helpful and we're investigating. @Oingloin could you let us know if you experienced this issue in the same area, or somewhere else?

Craglorn (Belkarth): guards, Zibaran, Khudriran. Seems like it works on all npcs if you try long enough.

Also works in elden root and mournhold

VaxtinTheWolf · August 2020

I don't think this is not a new bug, just an extension of a previous issue now that it can also be used without an enemy target. With attack innocents off, the Archer shade still attacked when summoned if you happened to be targeting an NPC in that moment.

parietic · August 2020

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

I don't think this is not a new bug, just an extension of a previous issue now that it can also be used without an enemy target. With attack innocents off, the Archer shade still attacked when summoned if you happened to be targeting an NPC in that moment.

The problem is that even though I have prevent attacking innocents on the shade will still attack npc's from time to time.
If the shade attacked npc's when you had prevent attacking innocents off like you explained, I do not think that could be considered a bug.

CasgarTheSomnolent · August 2020

I would like a toggle that lets our pets attack bystanders that always repeat the same dialogue over and over. They are not innocent.

parietic · August 2020

CasgarTheSomnolent wrote: »

I would like a toggle that lets our pets attack bystanders that always repeat the same dialogue over and over. They are not innocent.

Can you believe it, dragons, in your own homeland!
Not going to lie some separate setting for these pesky npcs would be amazing.

zaria · August 2020

parietic wrote: »

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

I don't think this is not a new bug, just an extension of a previous issue now that it can also be used without an enemy target. With attack innocents off, the Archer shade still attacked when summoned if you happened to be targeting an NPC in that moment.

The problem is that even though I have prevent attacking innocents on the shade will still attack npc's from time to time.
If the shade attacked npc's when you had prevent attacking innocents off like you explained, I do not think that could be considered a bug.

They should not attack friendly or neutral npc unless they turned hostile. Say you use an disguise in an quest and npc is yellow.

alanmatillab16_ESO · August 2020

parietic wrote: »

CasgarTheSomnolent wrote: »

I would like a toggle that lets our pets attack bystanders that always repeat the same dialogue over and over. They are not innocent.

Can you believe it, dragons, in your own homeland!
Not going to lie some separate setting for these pesky npcs would be amazing.

His reply needs changing to "what in the name of Oblivion do you expect me to do about it i'm a farmer you s'wit"

VaxtinTheWolf · August 2020

parietic wrote: »

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

I don't think this is not a new bug, just an extension of a previous issue now that it can also be used without an enemy target. With attack innocents off, the Archer shade still attacked when summoned if you happened to be targeting an NPC in that moment.

The problem is that even though I have prevent attacking innocents on the shade will still attack npc's from time to time.
If the shade attacked npc's when you had prevent attacking innocents off like you explained, I do not think that could be considered a bug.

That's what I mean. Attacking innocents off, as in not being able to attack them. I often had to look at the floor just to make sure I wasn't targeting an NPC in the Mournhlold bank sometimes just in case.

ManDraKE · August 2020

This isn't new, last patch i was being attacked by guards on Vvardenfell (around the crafting stations areas) constantly because of shadow image.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · August 2020

Thanks for the info, all. We now have a bug in for this and the team is investigating.

OmniDo · August 2020

Gotta admit, that video not only perfectly demonstrates the issue, but is also quite hilarious.

Karminathevamp · August 2020

NPC's flame-throwing ability would be nice for us too.

parietic · August 2020

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Thanks for the info, all. We now have a bug in for this and the team is investigating.

Hi @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , I did some more testing and found a way to reliably reproduce the bug.

Step 1 - Make sure you have `prevent attacking innocents enabled`
Step 2 - Begin a heavy attack while looking away from an npc
Step 3 - Look at an npc
Step 4 - Fire the heavy attack
Step 5 - The next shade you spawn will attack the npc's

Video demo:

https://youtu.be/rVn0Z7eKTMU

Hope that helps and this bug can get fixed soon, thanks.

Ectheliontnacil · August 2020

ManDraKE wrote: »

This isn't new, last patch i was being attacked by guards on Vvardenfell (around the crafting stations areas) constantly because of shadow image.

Yeah, the shadow image thing has been around for a ages now and it's annoying af.

Jayman1000 · August 2020

Can I add that other pets, like Clannfear, also attack innocents too if you press the command button for pet to attack? This also happens while the Prevent Attacking Innocents option is enabled. Is this intentional?

AelonRhiadra · August 2020

parietic wrote: »

Can you believe it, dragons, in your own homeland!
Not going to lie some separate setting for these pesky npcs would be amazing.

"Do you know how long I've been looking for you?"

That one i would definately be setting my shade on

Veinblood1965 · August 2020

Maybe they are not so innocent after all? SPIES!

ManDraKE · August 2020

-delete-

Athan1 · August 2020

bottom line: don't summon shadows. they're *evil*

Djennku · August 2020

I have had no issues with summoning my shade in populated areas, and I don't use the prevent attacking innocents option.

What I'm seeing a lot of on here is people intentionally or accidentally attacking NPCs and getting upset when the shade engages.

One easy solution for this issue is to make sure you aren't targeting any NPCs, attacking them directly, or engaging in combat near them, and the shade should no give you any issues.