Dark Shade attacks innocents

Oingloin

The "new" dark shade attacks innocents sometimes. (prevent attacking innocents is activated). Please fix this bug.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hey @Oingloin where did you experience this? (What zone and area?) And what types of innocents did your Dark Shade attack? The NPC names or at least location would be helpful.

parietic

Can confirm this is happening to me too.
https://youtu.be/KQ-K-hhteRY

This was in Rimmen in Northern Elsweyr, the npc was next to the shrine and her name is Sharrasti.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Thank you for the video @parietic! It's super helpful and we're investigating. @Oingloin could you let us know if you experienced this issue in the same area, or somewhere else?

Oingloin

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Thank you for the video @parietic! It's super helpful and we're investigating. @Oingloin could you let us know if you experienced this issue in the same area, or somewhere else?

Craglorn (Belkarth): guards, Zibaran, Khudriran. Seems like it works on all npcs if you try long enough.

Oingloin

Oingloin wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Thank you for the video @parietic! It's super helpful and we're investigating. @Oingloin could you let us know if you experienced this issue in the same area, or somewhere else?

Craglorn (Belkarth): guards, Zibaran, Khudriran. Seems like it works on all npcs if you try long enough.

Also works in elden root and mournhold

VaxtinTheWolf

I don't think this is not a new bug, just an extension of a previous issue now that it can also be used without an enemy target. With attack innocents off, the Archer shade still attacked when summoned if you happened to be targeting an NPC in that moment.

parietic

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

I don't think this is not a new bug, just an extension of a previous issue now that it can also be used without an enemy target. With attack innocents off, the Archer shade still attacked when summoned if you happened to be targeting an NPC in that moment.

The problem is that even though I have prevent attacking innocents on the shade will still attack npc's from time to time.
If the shade attacked npc's when you had prevent attacking innocents off like you explained, I do not think that could be considered a bug.

CasgarTheSomnolent

I would like a toggle that lets our pets attack bystanders that always repeat the same dialogue over and over. They are not innocent.

parietic

CasgarTheSomnolent wrote: »

I would like a toggle that lets our pets attack bystanders that always repeat the same dialogue over and over. They are not innocent.

Can you believe it, dragons, in your own homeland!
Not going to lie some separate setting for these pesky npcs would be amazing.

zaria

parietic wrote: »

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

I don't think this is not a new bug, just an extension of a previous issue now that it can also be used without an enemy target. With attack innocents off, the Archer shade still attacked when summoned if you happened to be targeting an NPC in that moment.

The problem is that even though I have prevent attacking innocents on the shade will still attack npc's from time to time.
If the shade attacked npc's when you had prevent attacking innocents off like you explained, I do not think that could be considered a bug.

They should not attack friendly or neutral npc unless they turned hostile. Say you use an disguise in an quest and npc is yellow.

alanmatillab16_ESO

parietic wrote: »

CasgarTheSomnolent wrote: »

I would like a toggle that lets our pets attack bystanders that always repeat the same dialogue over and over. They are not innocent.

Can you believe it, dragons, in your own homeland!
Not going to lie some separate setting for these pesky npcs would be amazing.

His reply needs changing to "what in the name of Oblivion do you expect me to do about it i'm a farmer you s'wit"

VaxtinTheWolf

parietic wrote: »

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

I don't think this is not a new bug, just an extension of a previous issue now that it can also be used without an enemy target. With attack innocents off, the Archer shade still attacked when summoned if you happened to be targeting an NPC in that moment.

The problem is that even though I have prevent attacking innocents on the shade will still attack npc's from time to time.
If the shade attacked npc's when you had prevent attacking innocents off like you explained, I do not think that could be considered a bug.

That's what I mean. Attacking innocents off, as in not being able to attack them. I often had to look at the floor just to make sure I wasn't targeting an NPC in the Mournhlold bank sometimes just in case.

ManDraKE

This isn't new, last patch i was being attacked by guards on Vvardenfell (around the crafting stations areas) constantly because of shadow image.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Thanks for the info, all. We now have a bug in for this and the team is investigating.

OmniDo

Gotta admit, that video not only perfectly demonstrates the issue, but is also quite hilarious.

Karminathevamp

NPC's flame-throwing ability would be nice for us too.

parietic

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Thanks for the info, all. We now have a bug in for this and the team is investigating.

Hi @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , I did some more testing and found a way to reliably reproduce the bug.

Step 1 - Make sure you have `prevent attacking innocents enabled`
Step 2 - Begin a heavy attack while looking away from an npc
Step 3 - Look at an npc
Step 4 - Fire the heavy attack
Step 5 - The next shade you spawn will attack the npc's

Video demo:
https://youtu.be/rVn0Z7eKTMU

Hope that helps and this bug can get fixed soon, thanks.

Ectheliontnacil

ManDraKE wrote: »

This isn't new, last patch i was being attacked by guards on Vvardenfell (around the crafting stations areas) constantly because of shadow image.

Yeah, the shadow image thing has been around for a ages now and it's annoying af.

Jayman1000

Can I add that other pets, like Clannfear, also attack innocents too if you press the command button for pet to attack? This also happens while the Prevent Attacking Innocents option is enabled. Is this intentional?

AelonRhiadra

parietic wrote: »

Can you believe it, dragons, in your own homeland!
Not going to lie some separate setting for these pesky npcs would be amazing.

"Do you know how long I've been looking for you?"

That one i would definately be setting my shade on

Veinblood1965

Maybe they are not so innocent after all? SPIES!

ManDraKE

-delete-

Athan1

bottom line: don't summon shadows. they're *evil*

Djennku

I have had no issues with summoning my shade in populated areas, and I don't use the prevent attacking innocents option.

What I'm seeing a lot of on here is people intentionally or accidentally attacking NPCs and getting upset when the shade engages.

One easy solution for this issue is to make sure you aren't targeting any NPCs, attacking them directly, or engaging in combat near them, and the shade should no give you any issues.