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Nomination: Hardest boss fights in the game
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josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭Grandchamp1989 wrote: »Nomination time!
What would you say is the hardest boss fights in the following categories:
-Dungeons
-Trials
-World Bosses
Cloudrest +1-2-3 is not eligable as it is multiple boss fights stacked into the same room, so if you vote Cloudrest name the boss you find the hardest of the bunch.
My nominations are:
Dungeon: Vet Frost Vault: Vault Protector (Yes, I've picked this one over all the other HM fights in the game, the derpie desynch lasers are the true HM lol)
Trial: Cloudrest, Z'Maja (Simply due to the shadow world mechanic it's a true PUG killer)
World Boss: Summerset: Graveld's Hideaway (Fire... Fire and lizards everywhere!)
-blackrose prison 4.arena boss fight
-navintah hm
- mh this one is hard many world bosses are very easy i would say one of the hardest is the one in elswyr with the explosive adds
People keep mentioning vBRP, but it is a trial, not a dungeon. It IS 4 man content, but as a trial it is harder than a true dungeon.
1. Its been years since I played any 12-man trials, so I am out of date there.
2. From a tanking perspective I would say vFL Hard Mode is pretty tough...but vFV Hard Mode Stonekeeper probably puts out so much pure damage that it is hard to survive.
3. The monk world boss in southern Elsewyr has actual mechanics and can kill you very easily...more because of all the random people who will run up and start attacking without understanding the damage reflection.
P.S. The hunger world boss in vvardenfell is easy enough to solo. I never had trouble...but I can see how glass cannon DPS would...for my solo content build I still use a heavy armor magicka build...doesnt put out a lot of damage...but way more than enough to clear any solo content....it survives the hunger just fine.
"Surviving" the hunger was never my problem. It's killing it that's the issue because it knocks you down and then eats you to restore its life and unless you have another player around to interrupt the move it gets a lot of its health back. So I don't understand how you are soloing it with a defensive strategy by out-surviving it.
I haven't killed it lately, but I do know I have soloed it several times in the past....my solo build puts out something like 30k DPS...not great as I said, but anything above 15k should be enough to solo that one...unless they buffed it sometime since release? Going to have to do it again tonight and check.0 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Grandchamp1989 wrote: »Nomination time!
What would you say is the hardest boss fights in the following categories:
-Dungeons
-Trials
-World Bosses
Cloudrest +1-2-3 is not eligable as it is multiple boss fights stacked into the same room, so if you vote Cloudrest name the boss you find the hardest of the bunch.
My nominations are:
Dungeon: Vet Frost Vault: Vault Protector (Yes, I've picked this one over all the other HM fights in the game, the derpie desynch lasers are the true HM lol)
Trial: Cloudrest, Z'Maja (Simply due to the shadow world mechanic it's a true PUG killer)
World Boss: Summerset: Graveld's Hideaway (Fire... Fire and lizards everywhere!)
-blackrose prison 4.arena boss fight
-navintah hm
- mh this one is hard many world bosses are very easy i would say one of the hardest is the one in elswyr with the explosive adds
People keep mentioning vBRP, but it is a trial, not a dungeon. It IS 4 man content, but as a trial it is harder than a true dungeon.
1. Its been years since I played any 12-man trials, so I am out of date there.
2. From a tanking perspective I would say vFL Hard Mode is pretty tough...but vFV Hard Mode Stonekeeper probably puts out so much pure damage that it is hard to survive.
3. The monk world boss in southern Elsewyr has actual mechanics and can kill you very easily...more because of all the random people who will run up and start attacking without understanding the damage reflection.
P.S. The hunger world boss in vvardenfell is easy enough to solo. I never had trouble...but I can see how glass cannon DPS would...for my solo content build I still use a heavy armor magicka build...doesnt put out a lot of damage...but way more than enough to clear any solo content....it survives the hunger just fine.
"Surviving" the hunger was never my problem. It's killing it that's the issue because it knocks you down and then eats you to restore its life and unless you have another player around to interrupt the move it gets a lot of its health back. So I don't understand how you are soloing it with a defensive strategy by out-surviving it.
I haven't killed it lately, but I do know I have soloed it several times in the past....my solo build puts out something like 30k DPS...not great as I said, but anything above 15k should be enough to solo that one...unless they buffed it sometime since release? Going to have to do it again tonight and check.
I play a tank usually so 30k is high. Even 15k is pushing it.
It might be possible to just blow him up with lots of damage though. I have a DPS build I've been working on so maybe I'll give him a try with that. But as a tank he seems pretty impossible to solo because he just pins you on the ground and starts snacking on you to get his life back and you can't bash it or do anything except watch all the health you took off come right back.Edited by Jeremy on August 12, 2020 7:33PM0 -
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Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FrancisCrawford wrote: »The Vvardenfell hunger world boss is pretty difficult ... or is there a straightforward way to prevent the cc?
Not that I've found. It's one of the few World Bosses I don't think you can beat solo.
You can. Did it for a daily, for the Nerevar bust. You need to have a lot of healing going, and damage. Both over time. In my case, pets, the storm atro and Critsurge did it.
But it's horrible design, no doubt.
Not bad. So what did you do, essentially have your pets keep doing damage to it while it was eating you to neutralize its healing?
Yup. I think the atro did the most work here.1 -
gatekeeper13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Dungeon Boss: Dark Orb in DoM. Did the dungeon as a tank and the pressure was insane, even harder than vBRF HM (Tempered Tantrum). Maybe it was the group that didnt help.
Trial Boss: Possessed Manticora in vSO. Pug killer, requires good coordination.
World Boss: Summerset Gryphons.
Edited by gatekeeper13 on August 12, 2020 7:59PM1 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FrancisCrawford wrote: »The Vvardenfell hunger world boss is pretty difficult ... or is there a straightforward way to prevent the cc?
Not that I've found. It's one of the few World Bosses I don't think you can beat solo.
You can. Did it for a daily, for the Nerevar bust. You need to have a lot of healing going, and damage. Both over time. In my case, pets, the storm atro and Critsurge did it.
But it's horrible design, no doubt.
Not bad. So what did you do, essentially have your pets keep doing damage to it while it was eating you to neutralize its healing?
Yup. I think the atro did the most work here.
That does sound like a strategy that could work. Too bad my class doesn't have any pets or I'd try it.0 -
Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FrancisCrawford wrote: »The Vvardenfell hunger world boss is pretty difficult ... or is there a straightforward way to prevent the cc?
Not that I've found. It's one of the few World Bosses I don't think you can beat solo.
You can. Did it for a daily, for the Nerevar bust. You need to have a lot of healing going, and damage. Both over time. In my case, pets, the storm atro and Critsurge did it.
But it's horrible design, no doubt.
Not bad. So what did you do, essentially have your pets keep doing damage to it while it was eating you to neutralize its healing?
Yup. I think the atro did the most work here.
That does sound like a strategy that could work. Too bad my class doesn't have any pets or I'd try it.
Yes, sorc definitely has an advantage there. It's the combination of a long HoT and DoT which makes them so useful there. If you could replicate this on your class, you should be able to solo it.1 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭FrancisCrawford wrote: »The Vvardenfell hunger world boss is pretty difficult ... or is there a straightforward way to prevent the cc?
Not that I've found. It's one of the few World Bosses I don't think you can beat solo.
You can. Did it for a daily, for the Nerevar bust. You need to have a lot of healing going, and damage. Both over time. In my case, pets, the storm atro and Critsurge did it.
But it's horrible design, no doubt.
Ohhh. Crit Surge can heal you even when you're cced ...0 -
Jaimeh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dungeon bosses: the laser boss and the last boss in HM in Frost Vault, the last boss in Fang Lair HM, the last boss in HM Moongrave Fane. For non-DLC dungeons (and esp with PUGs), the netch in Darkshade II, Rillis in Banished II, and the last boss in Tempest HM can all be a pain.
Trial bosses (barring KA, since I don't have a lot xp with it): Lokkestiiz HM in Sunspire, the triplets in HOF, and for new groups, the twins in vMOL are still a killer.
World bosses (barring Skyrim WBs, I haven't done them yet): the boss in Northern Elsweyr with the adds that throw fire. Also, not difficult but veerrry tedious: B'Korgen in Summerset.0 -
Czekoludek✭✭✭✭✭
✭Grandchamp1989 wrote: »Nomination time!
What would you say is the hardest boss fights in the following categories:
-Dungeons
-Trials
-World Bosses
Cloudrest +1-2-3 is not eligable as it is multiple boss fights stacked into the same room, so if you vote Cloudrest name the boss you find the hardest of the bunch.
My nominations are:
Dungeon: Vet Frost Vault: Vault Protector (Yes, I've picked this one over all the other HM fights in the game, the derpie desynch lasers are the true HM lol)
Trial: Cloudrest, Z'Maja (Simply due to the shadow world mechanic it's a true PUG killer)
World Boss: Summerset: Graveld's Hideaway (Fire... Fire and lizards everywhere!)
-blackrose prison 4.arena boss fight
-navintah hm
- mh this one is hard many world bosses are very easy i would say one of the hardest is the one in elswyr with the explosive adds
People keep mentioning vBRP, but it is a trial, not a dungeon. It IS 4 man content, but as a trial it is harder than a true dungeon.
1. Its been years since I played any 12-man trials, so I am out of date there.
2. From a tanking perspective I would say vFL Hard Mode is pretty tough...but vFV Hard Mode Stonekeeper probably puts out so much pure damage that it is hard to survive.
3. The monk world boss in southern Elsewyr has actual mechanics and can kill you very easily...more because of all the random people who will run up and start attacking without understanding the damage reflection.
P.S. The hunger world boss in vvardenfell is easy enough to solo. I never had trouble...but I can see how glass cannon DPS would...for my solo content build I still use a heavy armor magicka build...doesnt put out a lot of damage...but way more than enough to clear any solo content....it survives the hunger just fine.
No it is Arena like vMA or vDSA. Longer and harder then dungeons but still requires less effort then some of the trials0 -
volkeswagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭when you have a group of three mudcrabs that's when things get near impossible. Two mudcrabs I can barely handle but three is probably as hard as it gets.1 -
dinokstrunz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dungeon boss - Either 2nd boss or last boss Hardmode Frostvaults, horrible dungeon full of bugs and desyncs. Don't think any other dungeon boss has given me as much grief as those two.
Trial boss - Not really played Trials in years as I don't have a guild to play with anymore
But I Z'maja +3 veteran gets pretty whack.
World boss - The Gryphons from Summerset (took me nearly 10 minutes to solo since it was 2am and nobody was around) maybe The Saint from Stonefalls, I remember her being very nasty with roots and big flame whips.
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✭Jah, Vet Frostvault lasers, its just so buggy and needs to be done almost perfectly to get though it.0 -
josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭Czekoludek wrote: »Grandchamp1989 wrote: »Nomination time!
What would you say is the hardest boss fights in the following categories:
-Dungeons
-Trials
-World Bosses
Cloudrest +1-2-3 is not eligable as it is multiple boss fights stacked into the same room, so if you vote Cloudrest name the boss you find the hardest of the bunch.
My nominations are:
Dungeon: Vet Frost Vault: Vault Protector (Yes, I've picked this one over all the other HM fights in the game, the derpie desynch lasers are the true HM lol)
Trial: Cloudrest, Z'Maja (Simply due to the shadow world mechanic it's a true PUG killer)
World Boss: Summerset: Graveld's Hideaway (Fire... Fire and lizards everywhere!)
-blackrose prison 4.arena boss fight
-navintah hm
- mh this one is hard many world bosses are very easy i would say one of the hardest is the one in elswyr with the explosive adds
People keep mentioning vBRP, but it is a trial, not a dungeon. It IS 4 man content, but as a trial it is harder than a true dungeon.
1. Its been years since I played any 12-man trials, so I am out of date there.
2. From a tanking perspective I would say vFL Hard Mode is pretty tough...but vFV Hard Mode Stonekeeper probably puts out so much pure damage that it is hard to survive.
3. The monk world boss in southern Elsewyr has actual mechanics and can kill you very easily...more because of all the random people who will run up and start attacking without understanding the damage reflection.
P.S. The hunger world boss in vvardenfell is easy enough to solo. I never had trouble...but I can see how glass cannon DPS would...for my solo content build I still use a heavy armor magicka build...doesnt put out a lot of damage...but way more than enough to clear any solo content....it survives the hunger just fine.
No it is Arena like vMA or vDSA. Longer and harder then dungeons but still requires less effort then some of the trials
vMA and vDSA are trials as well...it says right on them that they are. I would argue that vDSA and vBRP are both harder than some of the earlier vet trials as well. The amount of players is irrelevant to whether they are considered trials or not. If you had a 12-man arena fight...that would be a trial as well. The only real difference between the two is the lack of mobs outside of boss fights.0 -
Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Czekoludek wrote: »Grandchamp1989 wrote: »Nomination time!
What would you say is the hardest boss fights in the following categories:
-Dungeons
-Trials
-World Bosses
Cloudrest +1-2-3 is not eligable as it is multiple boss fights stacked into the same room, so if you vote Cloudrest name the boss you find the hardest of the bunch.
My nominations are:
Dungeon: Vet Frost Vault: Vault Protector (Yes, I've picked this one over all the other HM fights in the game, the derpie desynch lasers are the true HM lol)
Trial: Cloudrest, Z'Maja (Simply due to the shadow world mechanic it's a true PUG killer)
World Boss: Summerset: Graveld's Hideaway (Fire... Fire and lizards everywhere!)
-blackrose prison 4.arena boss fight
-navintah hm
- mh this one is hard many world bosses are very easy i would say one of the hardest is the one in elswyr with the explosive adds
People keep mentioning vBRP, but it is a trial, not a dungeon. It IS 4 man content, but as a trial it is harder than a true dungeon.
1. Its been years since I played any 12-man trials, so I am out of date there.
2. From a tanking perspective I would say vFL Hard Mode is pretty tough...but vFV Hard Mode Stonekeeper probably puts out so much pure damage that it is hard to survive.
3. The monk world boss in southern Elsewyr has actual mechanics and can kill you very easily...more because of all the random people who will run up and start attacking without understanding the damage reflection.
P.S. The hunger world boss in vvardenfell is easy enough to solo. I never had trouble...but I can see how glass cannon DPS would...for my solo content build I still use a heavy armor magicka build...doesnt put out a lot of damage...but way more than enough to clear any solo content....it survives the hunger just fine.
No it is Arena like vMA or vDSA. Longer and harder then dungeons but still requires less effort then some of the trials
vMA and vDSA are trials as well...it says right on them that they are. I would argue that vDSA and vBRP are both harder than some of the earlier vet trials as well. The amount of players is irrelevant to whether they are considered trials or not. If you had a 12-man arena fight...that would be a trial as well. The only real difference between the two is the lack of mobs outside of boss fights.
It's about the loot. They award "arena weapons", which clearly separate them from standard trials.0 -
josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭Czekoludek wrote: »Grandchamp1989 wrote: »Nomination time!
What would you say is the hardest boss fights in the following categories:
-Dungeons
-Trials
-World Bosses
Cloudrest +1-2-3 is not eligable as it is multiple boss fights stacked into the same room, so if you vote Cloudrest name the boss you find the hardest of the bunch.
My nominations are:
Dungeon: Vet Frost Vault: Vault Protector (Yes, I've picked this one over all the other HM fights in the game, the derpie desynch lasers are the true HM lol)
Trial: Cloudrest, Z'Maja (Simply due to the shadow world mechanic it's a true PUG killer)
World Boss: Summerset: Graveld's Hideaway (Fire... Fire and lizards everywhere!)
-blackrose prison 4.arena boss fight
-navintah hm
- mh this one is hard many world bosses are very easy i would say one of the hardest is the one in elswyr with the explosive adds
People keep mentioning vBRP, but it is a trial, not a dungeon. It IS 4 man content, but as a trial it is harder than a true dungeon.
1. Its been years since I played any 12-man trials, so I am out of date there.
2. From a tanking perspective I would say vFL Hard Mode is pretty tough...but vFV Hard Mode Stonekeeper probably puts out so much pure damage that it is hard to survive.
3. The monk world boss in southern Elsewyr has actual mechanics and can kill you very easily...more because of all the random people who will run up and start attacking without understanding the damage reflection.
P.S. The hunger world boss in vvardenfell is easy enough to solo. I never had trouble...but I can see how glass cannon DPS would...for my solo content build I still use a heavy armor magicka build...doesnt put out a lot of damage...but way more than enough to clear any solo content....it survives the hunger just fine.
No it is Arena like vMA or vDSA. Longer and harder then dungeons but still requires less effort then some of the trials
vMA and vDSA are trials as well...it says right on them that they are. I would argue that vDSA and vBRP are both harder than some of the earlier vet trials as well. The amount of players is irrelevant to whether they are considered trials or not. If you had a 12-man arena fight...that would be a trial as well. The only real difference between the two is the lack of mobs outside of boss fights.
It's about the loot. They award "arena weapons", which clearly separate them from standard trials.
Not sure why I am arguing about this. ZOS clearly marks them as trials...and like all trials they have leaderboards. Dungeons do not. Loot doesn't define whether its a trial or not.0 -
joerginger✭✭✭✭✭But for the Witches Festival, arenas are a different category from trials (or dungeons). Arenas are the things in which wave upon wave of enemies kills you in a certain stage unti you beat the stage and move on to the next one. Trials work more or less like dungeons, but they're for 12 players instead of 4.Edited by joerginger on August 13, 2020 6:42PM1
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Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Czekoludek wrote: »Grandchamp1989 wrote: »Nomination time!
What would you say is the hardest boss fights in the following categories:
-Dungeons
-Trials
-World Bosses
Cloudrest +1-2-3 is not eligable as it is multiple boss fights stacked into the same room, so if you vote Cloudrest name the boss you find the hardest of the bunch.
My nominations are:
Dungeon: Vet Frost Vault: Vault Protector (Yes, I've picked this one over all the other HM fights in the game, the derpie desynch lasers are the true HM lol)
Trial: Cloudrest, Z'Maja (Simply due to the shadow world mechanic it's a true PUG killer)
World Boss: Summerset: Graveld's Hideaway (Fire... Fire and lizards everywhere!)
-blackrose prison 4.arena boss fight
-navintah hm
- mh this one is hard many world bosses are very easy i would say one of the hardest is the one in elswyr with the explosive adds
People keep mentioning vBRP, but it is a trial, not a dungeon. It IS 4 man content, but as a trial it is harder than a true dungeon.
1. Its been years since I played any 12-man trials, so I am out of date there.
2. From a tanking perspective I would say vFL Hard Mode is pretty tough...but vFV Hard Mode Stonekeeper probably puts out so much pure damage that it is hard to survive.
3. The monk world boss in southern Elsewyr has actual mechanics and can kill you very easily...more because of all the random people who will run up and start attacking without understanding the damage reflection.
P.S. The hunger world boss in vvardenfell is easy enough to solo. I never had trouble...but I can see how glass cannon DPS would...for my solo content build I still use a heavy armor magicka build...doesnt put out a lot of damage...but way more than enough to clear any solo content....it survives the hunger just fine.
No it is Arena like vMA or vDSA. Longer and harder then dungeons but still requires less effort then some of the trials
vMA and vDSA are trials as well...it says right on them that they are. I would argue that vDSA and vBRP are both harder than some of the earlier vet trials as well. The amount of players is irrelevant to whether they are considered trials or not. If you had a 12-man arena fight...that would be a trial as well. The only real difference between the two is the lack of mobs outside of boss fights.
It's about the loot. They award "arena weapons", which clearly separate them from standard trials.
Not sure why I am arguing about this. ZOS clearly marks them as trials...and like all trials they have leaderboards. Dungeons do not. Loot doesn't define whether its a trial or not.
Then why are the weapons specifically called "arena weapons"?0 -
Fhritz✭✭✭✭✭Dungeon : Falkreath Hold Last Boss. Not hard, but this boss is a PUG killer when even 1 guy don't know the mechanics (especially in HM)
Trial : Cloudrest Final boss. PUG Killer too, especially with the shadow realm mechanic
World Boss : IDK, you can do them with a lot of people so...
I'm a single character man.
Stamblade. Khajiit. Mostly pvp.
And...that's it.0