Returned to try Necro and Vampire

Oreyn_Bearclaw

In PVE, Vamp is only used for the spammable, and that will end on the 24th when the new patch goes live. Not saying you can't play a vamp effectively in a lot of PVE content, but if talking an end game DPS rotation, the only skill you currently see used is blood for blood, and everyone stays at stage 1.

In PVP, there are some powerful builds out there. mDK synergizes really well with the new Vamp line. Honestly cant really comment on necro vamp in PVP because I havent tried it.

SlimeBro1

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

In PVE, Vamp is only used for the spammable, and that will end on the 24th when the new patch goes live. Not saying you can't play a vamp effectively in a lot of PVE content, but if talking an end game DPS rotation, the only skill you currently see used is blood for blood, and everyone stays at stage 1.

In PVP, there are some powerful builds out there. mDK synergizes really well with the new Vamp line. Honestly cant really comment on necro vamp in PVP because I havent tried it.

Necro vamp in PvP screams "hey please kite me" if that says anything.

No really hard reliable CC or access to gap closers is quite rough. 9/10 times I use Blood Scion people just run away from me.

amm7sb14_ESO

SlimeBro1 wrote: »

You would be surprised, not a lot of people, including myself have that min/max mindset. I use stuff that isn't grade A+ to do vet dungeons. I and many others just want to play as a vampire.


But what I do know is that vampire itself just is not good in general. You use mist form on your tank as a mobility tool? Sure, I'll give you that. I've heard of tanks using mist form before. But that plus scion sometimes is 2 abilities out of 6.

It's good that you enjoy it, though. I appreciate your explanation on why you use vampire as a tank, however.

I use Hypnotize quite a bit too, depending on the circumstances.

Admittedly as a necro, I use Angry Totem much more frequently because of the minor vuln and minor protection, but given the 2 second delay on the fear, sometimes it's nice to have the Hypnotize for an instant AOE stun, and I always run it in PVP, and as a tank, most things are looking at me already anyways (at least they should be!) so that is rarely a problem.

So that's 2 / 6, plus a passive, specifically for a tank build, so for a skill line that is supposedly "useless" for tanks, I'd say that getting 1/3rd of the active line, plus 2 of the passives, implemented on my tank build is pretty "useful"

Plus, you start using Blood For Blood and Sated Fury for DD's, and now you're looking at almost the whole line (outside of that lame Vampiric Drain ability) plus passives being utilized in various capacities.

So yea, seems pretty non-worthless to me.

Nova_J

josiahva wrote: »

@Jeremy
I'm not talking about blocking 100% of the time, I'm just saying that in most vet dlcs dungeons you find yourself in situations where you have to heal yourself and block without the healer. What do you do in situations where you need to block and heal at the same time? Do you just eat the hit and die? Or do you change the skill? Drain will get you killed in those situations. And they happen ALOT, so you saying you clearing dlcs dungeons and above with that as your burst is hard to believe.[/quote]

I have to say...that in vet DLCs(HM or not) that is factually incorrect. While its nice to be able to heal and block at the same time, I very rarely do so...in fact, on my DK, green dragon blood isnt even on my front bar...its a back bar ability only...so not only can't I heal front bar, I actually have to swap to back bar to do so. I will qualify that though with the fact that I run a shield tank, so its not as critical as more conventional tanks to be able to heal and block at the same time since I often have 20k+ worth of shields up on myself. And no, I don't have any problems completing vet DLC HMs with the setup. In a trial setting though I will front bar a self heal...it all depends on the content you are running and your build/playstyle as to what you can get away with.[/quote]

If you're running a sheild tank then that's different. You can get away with have to get your health bar back up immediately.