FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »I disagree with the first part. 1vX'ing shouldn't be balanced around. If a change hurts 1vX'ing so be it. It shouldn't be a thing anyway lol.
I will say that 1vX'ing does require a certain amount of skill tho so I respect it, but pvp shouldn't be designed around it. The potential upcoming proc meta probably wont kill 1vX'ing anyway, you'll always have idiots who fall for the kiting at a resource.
As for everything else I agree 100%. If we get this proc meta we're just gonna be taking huge leaps backwards in PvP and it definitely takes skill out of the equation.
FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »I disagree with the first part. 1vX'ing shouldn't be balanced around. If a change hurts 1vX'ing so be it. It shouldn't be a thing anyway lol.
I will say that 1vX'ing does require a certain amount of skill tho so I respect it, but pvp shouldn't be designed around it. The potential upcoming proc meta probably wont kill 1vX'ing anyway, you'll always have idiots who fall for the kiting at a resource.
As for everything else I agree 100%. If we get this proc meta we're just gonna be taking huge leaps backwards in PvP and it definitely takes skill out of the equation.
FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »I disagree with the first part. 1vX'ing shouldn't be balanced around. If a change hurts 1vX'ing so be it. It shouldn't be a thing anyway lol.
I will say that 1vX'ing does require a certain amount of skill tho so I respect it, but pvp shouldn't be designed around it. The potential upcoming proc meta probably wont kill 1vX'ing anyway, you'll always have idiots who fall for the kiting at a resource.
As for everything else I agree 100%. If we get this proc meta we're just gonna be taking huge leaps backwards in PvP and it definitely takes skill out of the equation.
FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »I will say that 1vX'ing does require a certain amount of skill tho so I respect it, but pvp shouldn't be designed around it. The potential upcoming proc meta probably wont kill 1vX'ing anyway, you'll always have idiots who fall for the kiting at a resource.
As for everything else I agree 100%. If we get this proc meta we're just gonna be taking huge leaps backwards in PvP and it definitely takes skill out of the equation.
If you move towards this type of balancing, it will be a more enjoyable game for all players, but 1 v x will still naturally exist. You cannot have a complex game like this with the defensive system it has(healing and class-based defenses) as well as the offensive combinations to kill people that this game has without having a disparity in skill level. The skill level disparity is where the x'ing becomes prominent.
Maybe that's the case for you, but getting roflstomped over and over is not most people's idea of fun, and the learning curve in ESO is as steep as Varen's Wall because the game doesn't teach you anything.Girl_Number8 wrote: »PvP is enjoyable because of the skill gap that pushes players to become better. It cultivates a fun and enjoyable PvPing experience, where players learn over time.
Maybe that's the case for you, but getting roflstomped over and over is not most people's idea of fun, and the learning curve in ESO is as steep as Varen's Wall because the game doesn't teach you anything.Girl_Number8 wrote: »PvP is enjoyable because of the skill gap that pushes players to become better. It cultivates a fun and enjoyable PvPing experience, where players learn over time.
I'm not saying reliance on proc sets is a good path for ESO's PvP, but claiming that the skill gap "cultivates a fun and enjoyable experience" is just laughable when it has driven many more people away than it has drawn in.
What i said is what you said. I said you'll always have people being kited around, it means exactly what you're saying.
You don't need to balance around 1vX'ing because all it boils down to is less skilled players falling for silly gimmicks and that will happen no matter what changes go though.
And just because it exists no matter what, doesn't mean it deserves to exist.
Same goes to equipment. Presented proc set changes bring nothing in terms of ending 1vXing, it will just shift the meta for the best players who will adapt pretty fast, while the ones who will really hurt from those changes are those who won't adapt - meaning casual players who had problems with gearing up already.