Why there are so less ice dmg sets?

Baliroc
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I want to play a magicka ice warden.
Many sets have flame, lightning or magicka dmg. There are not many dd sets with ice dmg. There ist just 1 Monster Helm with ice (iceheart) and it's main function is to create a shield...

The maelstrom set with the ice pillar is way too low dmg for the relativ high uptime. And no ice magician needs the slow... Because every ice ability snares.

How cool would it be with 10k dmg and a 2 sek cool down. I meen com on the monster set Nerien'eth do more dmg as a 2 piece set than a arena 5 piece set?

So please zos give me a cool monsterset in a Norden skyrim theme, with a giant ice blast. Or change Nerien'eth to ice dmg and change the color to blue 😎

How you guys see this?

Thank you.
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    no idea why we have such a huge lack. we honestly need a frost related stat set or 2. especially this year. It's skyrim?

    these would be good ideas:
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    it's not just frost related sets that lack either. in general, the amount of frost damage skills we have severely lack in quality and quantity. we need something like AB4.0 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n68B7D2Zna4NNcDCiPp1zYmJP4KDh3n-PsRAI80RLnM/edit?usp=sharing
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on July 18, 2020 2:45AM
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  • Stx
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    Winterborn is actually a good set. But it is being nerfed next patch I believe.

    There really needs to be an ice damage monster set. Iceheart is only good for soloing.
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Stx wrote: »
    Winterborn is actually a good set. But it is being nerfed next patch I believe.

    There really needs to be an ice damage monster set. Iceheart is only good for soloing.

    i feel like it's being buffed to be honest. it will now consistently proc every 6 seconds rather than having a slim chance to proc every 4 seconds, it does a decent amount more damage now and it's snare will persist for longer.
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  • idk
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    On top of the three sets already mentioned there is also Ysgramor's Birthright. This is a solid frost damage set.

    I do not think there is a huge number of sets that are element specific.
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    idk wrote: »
    On top of the three sets already mentioned there is also Ysgramor's Birthright. This is a solid frost damage set.

    I do not think there is a huge number of sets that are element specific.

    are you saying ysgramor's birthright is a solid frost damage set? Honestly i think it's one of the weakest of the frost sets. elemental sucession is just better than it and it offers a near identical bonus but with better spell damage, but a normal stat set is even better since it will also buff deep fissure which is without any doubt, a requirement for good warden dps, not using it is like shooting yourself in the foot and then trying to run a marathon the next day, yeah, you can finish the marathon but it's a pain in the ass, and you're gimping yourself really hard for no reason. It really needs the extra 200 spell damage bonus to be viable and i have no idea why it didn't get it. Also, i tested this a while ago, but it seemed to add it's spell damage to specifically the frost damage within a damage skill. that makes sense, but it reads like it adds it to the entire skill, you can see the difference on force shock and it's morphs.
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  • Runefang
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    Ice, the element that is extremely fragile, is for sturdy tanks. Obvious, isn't it?
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    Runefang wrote: »
    Ice, the element that is extremely fragile, is for sturdy tanks. Obvious, isn't it?

    it's def not sharp either :P
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  • idk
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    idk wrote: »
    On top of the three sets already mentioned there is also Ysgramor's Birthright. This is a solid frost damage set.

    I do not think there is a huge number of sets that are element specific.

    are you saying ysgramor's birthright is a solid frost damage set?

    I did not suggest it was BiS or the best which seems to be what you are attacking. Heck, ice builds have never been good builds at any point in this game (outside of some PvP benefits) so I am not going to argue about such minor points.
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    idk wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    On top of the three sets already mentioned there is also Ysgramor's Birthright. This is a solid frost damage set.

    I do not think there is a huge number of sets that are element specific.

    are you saying ysgramor's birthright is a solid frost damage set?

    I did not suggest it was BiS or the best which seems to be what you are attacking. Heck, ice builds have never been good builds at any point in this game (outside of some PvP benefits) so I am not going to argue about such minor points.

    i based my comment off what you said here:
    idk wrote: »
    there is also Ysgramor's Birthright. This is a solid frost damage set.

    it's not really solid at all.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on July 18, 2020 6:55AM
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  • deLioncourt
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    no idea why we have such a huge lack. we honestly need a frost related stat set or 2. especially this year. It's skyrim?

    these would be good ideas:
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    it's not just frost related sets that lack either. in general, the amount of frost damage skills we have severely lack in quality and quantity. we need something like AB4.0 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n68B7D2Zna4NNcDCiPp1zYmJP4KDh3n-PsRAI80RLnM/edit?usp=sharing

    While I agree that ice would be a cool dmg idea..that Hailthrash helmet is bad. Mega bad. The 1350 dmg is ok for AoE fights I guess, but 2%? That's 26 more dmg on the tooltip per second. For 10 seconds..that amounts to 260 extra dmg total.

    Thats literally nothing. :(
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    no idea why we have such a huge lack. we honestly need a frost related stat set or 2. especially this year. It's skyrim?

    these would be good ideas:
    unknown.png
    unknown.png


    it's not just frost related sets that lack either. in general, the amount of frost damage skills we have severely lack in quality and quantity. we need something like AB4.0 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n68B7D2Zna4NNcDCiPp1zYmJP4KDh3n-PsRAI80RLnM/edit?usp=sharing

    While I agree that ice would be a cool dmg idea..that Hailthrash helmet is bad. Mega bad. The 1350 dmg is ok for AoE fights I guess, but 2%? That's 26 more dmg on the tooltip per second. For 10 seconds..that amounts to 260 extra dmg total.

    Thats literally nothing. :(

    The idea for the set is that it is the most consistent ground aoe proc monster helm. With a near constant uptime. So that's why it's damage is lower like that. Can increase the bonus damage but it was thrown in there as an afterthought to make it slightly less boring.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on July 18, 2020 6:35PM
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