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Arkasis’s Genius new BiS for tanks?
DomstarX
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Im new here and no native speaker so im trying to explain myself as clearly as i can.
So i have already seen a lot of people trashtalking the new Arkasis’s Genius set but i think it is really undervalued and would like to here some other feedback to it.
2 – Adds 1206 Maximum Health
3 – Adds 1487 Armor
4 – Adds 1206 Maximum Health
5 – Whenever you drink a potion, you and 3 group members gain 44 Ultimate. This effect can occur once every 30 seconds.
My current setup is an argoinian NB tank with alkosh (which will probably will be even stronger on tanks if the current changes go live) and one set on body to match the situation. if i cant decide and nothing specific is needed im running akaviri dragonguard to use warhorn more frequently.
As a NB you already get 20 ult every time you drink a potion because of your catalyst passive and argonian gets extra resources back if they drink potions so i thought its nice to use 2(or3)xinfused jewelry with glyphs to reduce potion cooldown.
Example with warhorn vs. akaviri
Warhorn costs 250 ult, with akaviri its down to 212 difference of 38 ult cost reduction. if you would only trink one potion the 44 ultimate gained from 5piece would outweigh the cost reduction and warhorn is a somewhat expensive/slightly above average costing ult. with cheaper ults the value of akaviri is dropping even further.
To be more clear in numbers here, assuming you keep up your 3ult/sec from your LA and adding the catalyst passive also having 2xinfused potion cooldown glyphs to match the 5piece cooldown of 30 seconds.
with akaviri you need 58sec to cast your horn.
-drinking one potion (20) + 57 sec reg (58x3=174) + drinking another potion after your 30sec cooldown (20)
-> 20+174+20 -> 214
with Arkasis’s you need 41sec to cast your horn.
-drinking one potion (20+44) + 41 sec reg (41x3=123) + drinking another potion after your 30sec cooldown (20+44)
-> 20+44+123+20+44 -> 251
so you are shaving of something like 15ish seconds, depending how well you are timing your ult, to your next warhorn which increases the uptime of the buffs (especially major force) by quite some time.
obviously you would need to chuck potions non stop which can be considered as a downside but if you are using this as form of sustain for your char anyway its a win-win and in regular group content you could use the cheap throw-away potions or switch your setup for more comfort.
At this point you could argue that the 44ult for 30sec equals roughly 1,5ult/sec which is like permanent minor heroism so why not wear champion of the hist instead?
First of all the 2-4piece of Arkasis’s are way better for tanks and the real deal is that the 44 ultimate is also for 3 group members. That equals 4*44=176ult/30sec so 5,9ult/sec which is way higher than any other ultimate regenaration set or buff that comes to my mind.
The example with warhorn was the most practical in my opinion but you could also use barrier in progression groups to prevent some deaths.
Playing on console so i cant test this on PTS but if the set works like im currently assuming it sounds really good for me.
oh and sorry for clickbait title, just wanted to hear some feedback. im assuming that the set is good but probably not BiS for most cases.
Edited by DomstarX on July 17, 2020 9:58AM So i have already seen a lot of people trashtalking the new Arkasis’s Genius set but i think it is really undervalued and would like to here some other feedback to it.
2 – Adds 1206 Maximum Health
3 – Adds 1487 Armor
4 – Adds 1206 Maximum Health
5 – Whenever you drink a potion, you and 3 group members gain 44 Ultimate. This effect can occur once every 30 seconds.
My current setup is an argoinian NB tank with alkosh (which will probably will be even stronger on tanks if the current changes go live) and one set on body to match the situation. if i cant decide and nothing specific is needed im running akaviri dragonguard to use warhorn more frequently.
As a NB you already get 20 ult every time you drink a potion because of your catalyst passive and argonian gets extra resources back if they drink potions so i thought its nice to use 2(or3)xinfused jewelry with glyphs to reduce potion cooldown.
Example with warhorn vs. akaviri
Warhorn costs 250 ult, with akaviri its down to 212 difference of 38 ult cost reduction. if you would only trink one potion the 44 ultimate gained from 5piece would outweigh the cost reduction and warhorn is a somewhat expensive/slightly above average costing ult. with cheaper ults the value of akaviri is dropping even further.
To be more clear in numbers here, assuming you keep up your 3ult/sec from your LA and adding the catalyst passive also having 2xinfused potion cooldown glyphs to match the 5piece cooldown of 30 seconds.
with akaviri you need 58sec to cast your horn.
-drinking one potion (20) + 57 sec reg (58x3=174) + drinking another potion after your 30sec cooldown (20)
-> 20+174+20 -> 214
with Arkasis’s you need 41sec to cast your horn.
-drinking one potion (20+44) + 41 sec reg (41x3=123) + drinking another potion after your 30sec cooldown (20+44)
-> 20+44+123+20+44 -> 251
so you are shaving of something like 15ish seconds, depending how well you are timing your ult, to your next warhorn which increases the uptime of the buffs (especially major force) by quite some time.
obviously you would need to chuck potions non stop which can be considered as a downside but if you are using this as form of sustain for your char anyway its a win-win and in regular group content you could use the cheap throw-away potions or switch your setup for more comfort.
At this point you could argue that the 44ult for 30sec equals roughly 1,5ult/sec which is like permanent minor heroism so why not wear champion of the hist instead?
First of all the 2-4piece of Arkasis’s are way better for tanks and the real deal is that the 44 ultimate is also for 3 group members. That equals 4*44=176ult/30sec so 5,9ult/sec which is way higher than any other ultimate regenaration set or buff that comes to my mind.
The example with warhorn was the most practical in my opinion but you could also use barrier in progression groups to prevent some deaths.
Playing on console so i cant test this on PTS but if the set works like im currently assuming it sounds really good for me.
oh and sorry for clickbait title, just wanted to hear some feedback. im assuming that the set is good but probably not BiS for most cases.
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✭✭✭✭✭I run tava's favour over akaviri easily. While arkasis will generate you less ultimate, it also gives it to group members, so it will be better than tava's. I still think yolna will be better though.Edited by zvavi on July 17, 2020 10:55AM0 -
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✭✭Interesting...
With bloodspawn's* ultimate generation provisionally coming back to almost it's previous level, coupled with werewolf set on nb(passive for +20 ultimate generation on consumption of potion, passive for +2 ult/4secs with siphon skill cast), glugging a potion will mean lots more utlimate (warhorns), decisive 1-hand and minor heroism 1-hand skill (don't recall its name) with this set. Would mean no ebon (pve) but for 4-player content I'd be good with that, particularly with boost to group ultimate generation.
Thanks - never noticed this set.
*bloodspawn:Blood Spawn (pre-nerf ult generation was 14):
Increased the Armor rating granted from this set's proc to 3731, up from 3300.
Increased the Ultimate on proc to 13, up from 8. The Ultimate granted now scales with level and quality.6 -
Calypso589✭✭✭If this set is used for anything, it’ll be as a “prebuff” set for the group before a fight actually starts.
The ulti-gen from drinking potions isn’t better than the utility of Yolnahkriin, Alkosh, etc.0