Is this intended? - Frag proc not proc'ing Crystal Weaver

Pelican

I noticed the new features added to frag: it being able to proc on itself and giving 10% cost reduction for next ability, only applies when you hard cast it and not when you use the frag proc.
Is that intended? I feel like casting the proc should still give the 10% cost reduction on the next ability.

Jodynn

If that ability effect is only on hard cast then it's pretty lol and useless, unless they made it always instant cast.

Dracane

Right now it does not grant the cost reduction. Let's hope it gets fixed in the coming weeks.

ItsNotLiving

They should just make it instant the hard cast does like 2k anyway.

CleymenZero

ItsNotLiving wrote: »

They should just make it instant the hard cast does like 2k anyway.

Well that way, it would become an interesting spammable.

Honestly, make it insta cast, put its cost in-line with other spammables, adjust its damage so that, without a proc, it does less damage than other spammables without the proc and considerably more damage with the proc to keep its burst potential.

Dracane

CleymenZero wrote: »

ItsNotLiving wrote: »

They should just make it instant the hard cast does like 2k anyway.

Well that way, it would become an interesting spammable.

Honestly, make it insta cast, put its cost in-line with other spammables, adjust its damage so that, without a proc, it does less damage than other spammables without the proc and considerably more damage with the proc to keep its burst potential.

This must be considered thoroughly in case of such a change.
Reducing its damage below that of other spammables, would raise the question why one would use it over crushing shock then. Crystal shard has the same cost as crushing shock after its 10% cost debuff has been triggered. Yet Crushing Shock has more damage, chance for elemental effects and when talking maelstromg arena (as an example) a hefty magicka return when killing things with it. And let us not even compare it to elemental weapons. It would lose significantly in terms of DPS there.

So the only argument for crystal shard as an individually weaker spammable would stand and fall with what you replace that free slot with. Sorcerer does not have a lot of useful things to put there. It is a trifle, I would say.

WrathOfInnos

It shouldn’t be weaker than other spammables. Just instant cast, with the same base damage as Swallow Soul, Elemental Weapon, Screaming Cliff Racer, Ricochet Skull etc. Technically the normal cast would be weaker than any of these because it wouldn’t have any of their morph effects (healing, status effects, bonus damage, cleave), but the higher damage proc every 4th cast would make up for that.

Jodynn

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

It shouldn’t be weaker than other spammables. Just instant cast, with the same base damage as Swallow Soul, Elemental Weapon, Screaming Cliff Racer, Ricochet Skull etc. Technically the normal cast would be weaker than any of these because it wouldn’t have any of their morph effects (healing, status effects, bonus damage, cleave), but the higher damage proc every 4th cast would make up for that.

Now you're using logic, careful ;p

Dracane

brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

It shouldn’t be weaker than other spammables. Just instant cast, with the same base damage as Swallow Soul, Elemental Weapon, Screaming Cliff Racer, Ricochet Skull etc. Technically the normal cast would be weaker than any of these because it wouldn’t have any of their morph effects (healing, status effects, bonus damage, cleave), but the higher damage proc every 4th cast would make up for that.

Now you're using logic, careful ;p

I have not yet seen Innos use anything other than that.
Innos is good.

Mortiis13

I think we have enough spamables. It should stay as it is. Knowing zos it wont be like that, what we will wish

It's a good unique skill. Why change something that is totally fine?

Jodynn

Mortiis13 wrote: »

I think we have enough spamables. It should stay as it is. Knowing zos it wont be like that, what we will wish

It's a good unique skill. Why change something that is totally fine?

Every class deserves it's own spam, why not make it more balanced so you can have more bar space which sorcs tend to have a problem with if they desire to have a pet?