Rapid Maneurs and VIgor

JusticeSouldier

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Here i can't say better than Fengrush i this clip:
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlushingEndearingOcelotDeIlluminati

1. Move Rapid Maneur to world skillline as a first skill to unlock by default
2. Make Vigor first in Alliance war to open as u done
3. Add another usefull skill to Assault skilline instead Rapid...

MincVinyl

Tbh PvP could use more skills that suit actual combat. Considering how they removed the snare/root immunity from rapids a while ago, the assault skill line could easily have something of this nature.

One morph could be group immunity for 2s for up to 4-8 group members and the other morph could be solo 6-8s immunity. I'd say a mag/stam morph, but mag users would be hard pressed to get something better than RAT.

Sheuib

MincVinyl wrote: »

Tbh PvP could use more skills that suit actual combat. Considering how they removed the snare/root immunity from rapids a while ago, the assault skill line could easily have something of this nature.

One morph could be group immunity for 2s for up to 4-8 group members and the other morph could be solo 6-8s immunity. I'd say a mag/stam morph, but mag users would be hard pressed to get something better than RAT.

Please no. Not another group snare immunity. That was taken away for a reason. You had someone that just spams snare immunity in a ball group and you can't stop them at all. There are only two ways to kill a ball group and that is either break them up or hit them with a bigger ball group. Well if they have group snare immunity you can't break them up.

Luckylancer

Ut is a good idea OP. But what about removing rapid's major gallop and applying major gallop after 5 seconds mounted up? It is a chore to menage rapids in bar.

New rapids can be minor expedition with low cost. Nice for groups in cyro.

redgreensunset

JusticeSouldier wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Here i can't say better than Fengrush i this clip:
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlushingEndearingOcelotDeIlluminati

1. Move Rapid Maneur to world skillline as a first skill to unlock by default
2. Make Vigor first in Alliance war to open as u done
3. Add another usefull skill to Assault skilline instead Rapid...

Okay which world skill line? What skill should replace it in the Assault skill line?
Also you're assuming moving the skill to another skill line entirely is as easy as giving it another placing inside a skill line.

JusticeSouldier

redgreensunset wrote: »

JusticeSouldier wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Here i can't say better than Fengrush i this clip:
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlushingEndearingOcelotDeIlluminati

1. Move Rapid Maneur to world skillline as a first skill to unlock by default
2. Make Vigor first in Alliance war to open as u done
3. Add another usefull skill to Assault skilline instead Rapid...

Okay which world skill line? What skill should replace it in the Assault skill line?
Also you're assuming moving the skill to another skill line entirely is as easy as giving it another placing inside a skill line.

it can be something like stamina explosion thing, working when u're killed while it was activated before death, scaling on how many players were chasing u. Kamikadze as it is...
It's first example i imagined right now to be interesting for open world pvp.
i guess it should be deeply analyzed and that skill isn't a problem to add.

But, if to turn back to Rapid maneur, this skill is needed in eso in general, not only pvp like related thing.
It will be right desicion to make it inside World skilline

Atherakhia

They need to find another solution, that's for sure. The problem is new players want to unlock both Vigor and Rapid Maneuvers ASAP. A rank 1 horse is pathetically slow in this game and new players need rapids to move around. Similarly, stamina players need vigor ASAP, especially if they're going to insist on unlocking it through PvP, because there isn't an early heal unlock for most stamina classes in the game.

So moving vigor to the first slot is obviously a good decision.

Making Rapids a world skill, a support skill (god knows no one uses any of them), or just a free skill you unlock with your mount at 15 (5? 10? Can't remember) is fine. But both need to be available as a first unlock ASAP for new players.