Compensation for grim focus change

exeeter702

Would it be too much to ask that you reallocate the mitigation buff from grim focus to a skill not associated with assasination.

The bonus healing from this skill along with the improved swallow soul is a step in the right direction, but there Re infact nightblade builds that have little interest in engaging with shadowy disguise. Stripping NBs of 10 percent damage reduction hurts non stealth based NB builds, especially magNBs. Was this bonus mitigation seriously a balance concern? Even giving some form of it to blur would help.

If you seriously want all NBs to lean into glass cannons then perhaps you should reconsider the various skills that nb has that actively emphasize remaining in combat and being active, thing alike...

Siphoner passive requiring 4 second siphon skill to engage with this passive. You arent recasting siphing strikes or cripple this frequently, so that leaves sap, strife and offering, all skills that run contrary to stealth based builds.

You want more durable nbs to engage with shadow passives for major armor buffs but make the key enabler, dark cloak, prohibitively expensive for heavy armor stamblades and magblades need to invest a generous amount of health to gain meaningful benefits from this, and doing so nueters their attrition ability since swallow soul on a 29+k magblade is not going to keep them afloat.

Magblades in particular are currently forced into a glass cannon item set enabled gank approach since anything else results in them being a poverty magsorc. Let them return to their once original unqiue strength of enduring in pvp via floating hots and hybrid / healing tools like swallow souls minor vit attachment and refreshing path having a damage component however slight. Taking away 10 percent damage mitigation and giving a boost to critical healing and a more potent swallow soul is still not enough of a fair trade in light of the battle spirit healing nerfs that have negatively effected magblades moreso than most other magicka classes in the game.

LegendaryOaks

Its a small nerf to nightblade tanks who dont use the bow proc but instead sit on them the whole duration, as far as pve is concerned no one sat on all 5 stacks before casting the skill anyway, so it wont be an extra 10 percent crit damage in practice

Langeston

Swallow Soul didn't get buffed; Funnel Health did. Good for healers, bad for actually getting kills.

exeeter702

Langeston wrote: »

Swallow Soul didn't get buffed; Funnel Health did. Good for healers, bad for actually getting kills.

You are correct, I misread it. Funnel health will still not be used in pvp however. In pve nb healers have little use for it, maybe if they revert it back it its glory days of 3 targets.

Ragnaroek93

It's a buff, I think Nb would become op if you add 10% mitigation somewhere else on top of that tbh. It's 10% more healing overall I think, not only crit healing (and 10% more crit dmg).

exeeter702

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

It's a buff, I think Nb would become op if you add 10% mitigation somewhere else on top of that tbh. It's 10% more healing overall I think, not only crit healing (and 10% more crit dmg).

It was worded as critical damage and healing. If it is as you say, a flat healing buff would seem strange with the following comment stating they wanted the ability to be more associated with assasination.

It would in no way be OP as they had it this whole time and still had no hope of standing toe to toe with other damage builds in light of the battle spirit healing nerfs. It served no purpose as brawler based nb builds were entirely lackluster outside of nb healers, and most damage based builds were either going shadowy disguise proc set vamp builds or mediocre shield setups that were wholly inferior to mag sorcs.

Putting the 10 percent mitigation on another defensive skill does nothing to bolster them into OP territory because that is one slot they have to give up to get it back.

Langeston

exeeter702 wrote: »

You are correct, I misread it. Funnel health will still not be used in pvp however. In pve nb healers have little use for it, maybe if they revert it back it its glory days of 3 targets.

Agreed. While any buff is welcome at this point, this buff to Funnel Health won't affect many people. Magblade really needs a Swallow Soul buff.

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

It's a buff, I think Nb would become op if you add 10% mitigation somewhere else on top of that tbh. It's 10% more healing overall I think, not only crit healing (and 10% more crit dmg).

No, it's +10% crit healing, which isn't even close to a 10% flat buff. I just tested it.

ccfeeling

ZOS touch GRIM FOCUS again and again .

WTF you guys thinking about ?

Ragnaroek93

Ah ok, thought it was 10% more healing.

Atherakhia

Do people even enjoy the Grim Focus mechanic? It's the main reason I stopped playing my NB. While I'm fine with the change, I wish they'd find some way to make the stacks more streamlined. Like limit 1 stack a second but allow crits and light attacks to stack it. Just something. PvE it's not too bad, but PvP feels clunky. But that's just my opinion. Changes look good though.

Kadoin

Atherakhia wrote: »

Do people even enjoy the Grim Focus mechanic? It's the main reason I stopped playing my NB. While I'm fine with the change, I wish they'd find some way to make the stacks more streamlined. Like limit 1 stack a second but allow crits and light attacks to stack it. Just something. PvE it's not too bad, but PvP feels clunky. But that's just my opinion. Changes look good though.

I mainly used it for passive damage reduction and to force someone to dodge, other than that it seems completely useless.

Saubon

I think this change is directed to pve tanks. Still considering how squishy pvp magblades are it would be nice to get some buffs to make them atleast a playable class. And no dmg magblade will ever use funnel health