Can we get our Locked No-CP back?

Ormtunge

Hey all:)

I am asking to get our locked no-cp campaign back. It seems that the number of players in Cyrodill is more than before (I am not talking about the recent event.) and there is really no choice for us who only play no-cp pvp. My argument is that it is really bad for recruitment to pvp, when there is so much trolling atm (giving scroll to enemy, throwing it in the lava etc..) and farming winning side or low pop for ap and and ignoring campaign. If we get our Locked Non_CP campaign back, I think it would increas the recruitment to pvp, since it general have a more including climate (we all focus on the campaign as a group) and have less trolling. What do u all think? I dont want to make a change that makes it worse for the non-locked no-cp, but I and many other pvpers really miss our locked no-cp and think it should be reinstated for the mentioned reasons. Not the least for the recruitment of new pvpers.

pauld1_ESO

Ormtunge wrote: »

Hey all:)

I am asking to get our locked no-cp campaign back. It seems that the number of players in Cyrodill is more than before (I am not talking about the recent event.) and there is really no choice for us who only play no-cp pvp. My argument is that it is really bad for recruitment to pvp, when there is so much trolling atm (giving scroll to enemy, throwing it in the lava etc..) and farming winning side or low pop for ap and and ignoring campaign. If we get our Locked Non_CP campaign back, I think it would increas the recruitment to pvp, since it general have a more including climate (we all focus on the campaign as a group) and have less trolling. What do u all think? I dont want to make a change that makes it worse for the non-locked no-cp, but I and many other pvpers really miss our locked no-cp and think it should be reinstated for the mentioned reasons. Not the least for the recruitment of new pvpers.

This.

Kartalin

I don’t miss locked non cp, nor does my guild. Do not presume to speak for the majority.

edges_endgame

I don't want it back. None of my no Cp friends do.

Tammany

Second this, we need locked non cp campaight to prevent trolling.

edges_endgame wrote: »

I don't want it back. None of my no Cp friends do.

Then play in your non locked swamp.

edges_endgame

Tammany wrote: »

Second this, we need locked non cp campaight to prevent trolling.

edges_endgame wrote: »

I don't want it back. None of my no Cp friends do.

Then play in your non locked swamp.

On it boo. See you on any side.

Edit: WE, meaning 95% of my friends do not want faction locks. So stop speaking for all of us. We have a right to play how we want to. That includes trolling until it is stated by zos, that this is a rule breaker.

Tammany

edges_endgame wrote: »

Edit: WE, meaning 95% of my friends do not want faction locks.

And we, meaning 95% of my friends do want faction locks.

edges_endgame wrote: »

We have a right to play how we want to

Then again, feel free to stay in non locked swamp, where people constantly troll eachother, jump between factions and play anything but objects.
We are asking for another LOCKED campaign that does not mess with your in any way.

SmukkeHeks

100 % of my friends want the faction lock back. We want to play the way we want, which includes not catering to cheaters, exploiters and an entitled mentality.

edges_endgame

Tammany wrote: »

edges_endgame wrote: »

Edit: WE, meaning 95% of my friends do not want faction locks.

And we, meaning 95% of my friends do want faction locks.

edges_endgame wrote: »

We have a right to play how we want to

Then again, feel free to stay in non locked swamp, where people constantly troll eachother, jump between factions and play anything but objects.
We are asking for another LOCKED campaign that does not mess with your in any way.

OK. Good luck then on your wish. But I am afraid there isn't enough players for that. 😒

edges_endgame

SmukkeHeks wrote: »

100 % of my friends want the faction lock back. We want to play the way we want, which includes not catering to cheaters, exploiters and an entitled mentality.

I play no Cp on PC, NA.
I barely see what you describe here. However I see one faction dominate at times by numbers and it sucks to be forced to either PvDoor the map or do something else. That is why I can't support that request.

SmukkeHeks

edges_endgame wrote: »

SmukkeHeks wrote: »

100 % of my friends want the faction lock back. We want to play the way we want, which includes not catering to cheaters, exploiters and an entitled mentality.

I play no Cp on PC, NA.
I barely see what you describe here. However I see one faction dominate at times by numbers and it sucks to be forced to either PvDoor the map or do something else. That is why I can't support that request.

Pc Eu. Very different setting. Here we are infested with ballgroups, with zero intent of doing anything than spam two skills, running on walls all evening. Blatant self resurrection. That costume. Groups of inactive fellow faction players standing on outskirts of map. Taking possession of a scroll and delivering it to the enemy faction. The stuttering, loading screens and lag are a direct consequence of their actions.

When we had faction locks, all we should worry about is the cross faction guilds and their “agreements”. Which is bad enough. Spiced with first section, Cyrodiil is absolutely waste of time.

ItsJustHashtag

SmukkeHeks wrote: »

100 % of my friends want the faction lock back. We want to play the way we want, which includes not catering to cheaters, exploiters and an entitled mentality.

But you can still play how you want on non locked cp.

ItsJustHashtag

Tammany wrote: »

edges_endgame wrote: »

Edit: WE, meaning 95% of my friends do not want faction locks.

And we, meaning 95% of my friends do want faction locks.

edges_endgame wrote: »

We have a right to play how we want to

Then again, feel free to stay in non locked swamp, where people constantly troll eachother, jump between factions and play anything but objects.
We are asking for another LOCKED campaign that does not mess with your in any way.

What server are you on? Outside of prime time on PCNA no cp is dead. So you would be adding an even more dead campaign to the game and for what purpose? Faction loyalty? Faction loyalty went out the door with 1T.

TejasEric

Yes please refaction lock No-CP campaigns. It is much better faction locked

Tammany

ItsJustHashtag wrote: »

But I am afraid there isn't enough players for that. 😒

fun fact: locked CP campaign becomes full way faster than non locked one
why do you think non cp is absolutely another story ?

yesterday one DC kiddie logged AD and spawned sideways meatbags on every siege we tried to start just to mess with slots
he does that pretty frequently when not able to gather his cancerous ballgroup together
that is the one example why many people want locked campaign back

edges_endgame wrote: »

What server are you on? Outside of prime time on PCNA no cp is dead.

pc EU does not have empty non cp
could not care less about NA empty servers
op should have mentioned EU part

SmukkeHeks

ItsJustHashtag wrote: »

SmukkeHeks wrote: »

100 % of my friends want the faction lock back. We want to play the way we want, which includes not catering to cheaters, exploiters and an entitled mentality.

But you can still play how you want on non locked cp.

No.

We want to play the way we want, in the campaign we want to play.

ItsJustHashtag

Tammany wrote: »

ItsJustHashtag wrote: »

But I am afraid there isn't enough players for that. 😒

fun fact: locked CP campaign becomes full way faster than non locked one
why do you think non cp is absolutely another story ?

yesterday one DC kiddie logged AD and spawned sideways meatbags on every siege we tried to start just to mess with slots
he does that pretty frequently when not able to gather his cancerous ballgroup together
that is the one example why many people want locked campaign back

edges_endgame wrote: »

What server are you on? Outside of prime time on PCNA no cp is dead.

pc EU does not have empty non cp
could not care less about NA empty servers
op should have mentioned EU part

The locked CP campaign has always been the full campaign back when I started playing, 1.6, when it was locked then. They removed lock and guess what? It was still the most populated campaign. They added lock back and you oguessed it, the most popular campaign. So long story short that campaign is and will likely always be the campaign as it is the campaign most players homed from the get go because it was labeled by players as the “main campaign.”


An interesting test ZOS could have done would have been to put the non locked standard campaign first on list when they un-homed everyone a while back. Science says humans generally gravitate to what’s first on a list when they are choosing something

edges_endgame

Tammany wrote: »

ItsJustHashtag wrote: »

But I am afraid there isn't enough players for that. 😒

fun fact: locked CP campaign becomes full way faster than non locked one
why do you think non cp is absolutely another story ?

yesterday one DC kiddie logged AD and spawned sideways meatbags on every siege we tried to start just to mess with slots
he does that pretty frequently when not able to gather his cancerous ballgroup together
that is the one example why many people want locked campaign back

edges_endgame wrote: »

What server are you on? Outside of prime time on PCNA no cp is dead.

pc EU does not have empty non cp
could not care less about NA empty servers
op should have mentioned EU part

Ahh... See... I couldn't care less about EU servers. Funny thing, huh?[snip]

[edited for baiting]

Ormtunge

Tammany wrote: »

ItsJustHashtag wrote: »

op should have mentioned EU part

I agree I should have posted that I play EU not, NA, but I just assumed it was the same problems at that server. As I said before, I dont want to make non-cp worse, but only want to make it more friendly. In my oppinion, it is atm quite unfrriendly escpesially for new players. If u as a new player spend hours to win a scroll and then someome just spends the next hour trolling with it, that is not good for recruitment. And recruitment for pvp is personally my main consern atm. I want a Cyro PVP that is about winning a campaign and not just farming AP, and I think ESO would prosper if we did just that.

Beardimus

Ormtunge wrote: »

Hey all:)

I am asking to get our locked no-cp campaign back. It seems that the number of players in Cyrodill is more than before (I am not talking about the recent event.) and there is really no choice for us who only play no-cp pvp. My argument is that it is really bad for recruitment to pvp, when there is so much trolling atm (giving scroll to enemy, throwing it in the lava etc..) and farming winning side or low pop for ap and and ignoring campaign. If we get our Locked Non_CP campaign back, I think it would increas the recruitment to pvp, since it general have a more including climate (we all focus on the campaign as a group) and have less trolling. What do u all think? I dont want to make a change that makes it worse for the non-locked no-cp, but I and many other pvpers really miss our locked no-cp and think it should be reinstated for the mentioned reasons. Not the least for the recruitment of new pvpers.

Agreed. The quieter campaigns need locking 100%

idk

I think the biggest mistake is Zos trying to cater to everyone with special campaigns. It started with the no-CP then Zos locked campaigns because some people asked for it. Now we want different combinations and other special aspects have been suggested.

Daviiid_ESO

on PC-EU the non-locked campaign is more popular than the locked campaign. People prefer non-lock clearly. If you want to roleplay go to the locked campaign, won't matter a lot game play wise for you if you only siege and run with faction anyway.

TejasEric

I would love to have Non-CP locked again for the some of the same reasons the OP posted. Though I do not recruit in Cyrodiil so that is of no concern to me, but I am in a PvP guild.

Ormtunge

idk wrote: »

I think the biggest mistake is Zos trying to cater to everyone with special campaigns. It started with the no-CP then Zos locked campaigns because some people asked for it.

Well tecnically it a was the other way around, as that locked campaign was the original consept. And I dont think that the non-locked cp campaign is awful, I just think it would be better with less trolling and more teamplay, and I think that making it a locked campaign would help to do this.

Kartalin

Ormtunge wrote: »

idk wrote: »

I think the biggest mistake is Zos trying to cater to everyone with special campaigns. It started with the no-CP then Zos locked campaigns because some people asked for it.

Well tecnically it a was the other way around, as that locked campaign was the original consept. And I dont think that the non-locked cp campaign is awful, I just think it would be better with less trolling and more teamplay, and I think that making it a locked campaign would help to do this.

You could still enter the original “locked” campaigns if you were queued in by someone homed there, you just couldn’t home/guest a campaign on more than one faction.

Ormtunge

Daviiid_ESO wrote: »

on PC-EU the non-locked campaign is more popular than the locked campaign. People prefer non-lock clearly. If you want to roleplay go to the locked campaign, won't matter a lot game play wise for you if you only siege and run with faction anyway.

At the moment there is only one locked campaign and that is the CP locked one. The non-locked cp campaign is as far as I know dead. If u are trying to compare the locked cp (and not the unlocoked cp) with the unlocked no-cp, that is impossible to compare, since players like me who like no-cp dont have an alternative atm. That is the whole point of this post:)

Ishtharo

No

Tammany

Daviiid_ESO wrote: »

on PC-EU the non-locked campaign is more popular than the locked campaign. People prefer non-lock clearly.

I wonder who pressed "agree" to that blantant lie, your biased friend ?
Lets see wich campain is trully preferable:

17/07, 19:00 ST
non locked - two bars
locked - full

weekend 18/07, 12:00 ST
non locked - 1 bar
locked - hitting 3 bars
(as bonus, i've shown amount of random casual guild members per campaign, LOCKED almost doubles pop)

weekend 19/07, 14:00 ST
non locked - barely hitting 2 bars
locked - hiting full

weekend 19/07, 18:00 ST
non locked - barely hitting 3 bars
locked - full

<2 hours passed>
weekend 19/07, 20:00 ST
non locked - barely hitting 3 bars + 1 faction locked
locked - full

People clearly prefer locked campaighn for obvious reasons.
Same will happen with NO CP campaign - everyone but you and your friends gonna abandon that trolling non locked swamp and hop on LOCKED campaign, thats why you are against it - would be nobody left to troll.

ItsJustHashtag

Tammany wrote: »

Daviiid_ESO wrote: »

on PC-EU the non-locked campaign is more popular than the locked campaign. People prefer non-lock clearly.

I wonder who pressed "agree" to that blantant lie, your biased friend ?
Lets see wich campain is trully preferable:

17/07, 19:00 ST
non locked - two bars
locked - full

weekend 18/07, 12:00 ST
non locked - 1 bar
locked - hitting 3 bars
(as bonus, i've shown amount of random casual guild members per campaign, LOCKED almost doubles pop)

weekend 19/07, 14:00 ST
non locked - barely hitting 2 bars
locked - hiting full

weekend 19/07, 18:00 ST
non locked - barely hitting 3 bars
locked - full

<2 hours passed>
weekend 19/07, 20:00 ST
non locked - barely hitting 3 bars + 1 faction locked
locked - full

People clearly prefer locked campaighn for obvious reasons.
Same will happen with NO CP campaign - everyone but you and your friends gonna abandon that trolling non locked swamp and hop on LOCKED campaign, thats why you are against it - would be nobody left to troll.

People go to that campaign because it’s ALWAYS been considered the main campaign. People went there when it was unlocked as well. It has nothing to do with lock/unlocked but rather it’s considered the “main campaign.” Comparing the two has no relevant point.

Now if they removed everyone’s home campaign and put the blackreach campaign first on the list with the locked down where blackreach is science has proven that people will choose black reach.

Tammany

ItsJustHashtag wrote: »

People go to that campaign because it’s ALWAYS been considered the main campaign. People went there when it was unlocked as well. It has nothing to do with lock/unlocked but rather it’s considered the “main campaign.” Comparing the two has no relevant point.

The guy above said non locked is more popular, i've made a proof he is lying.
Cba to argue, give us additional locked non cp campaign, second in the list, and you will see the results urself.

finehair

Guy just asks for a new noncp campaign alongside what we have here and people who are against the faction lock is against it???
It's not gonna affect your non locked campaign, you will have less players of course but that would just improve the quality of your game since %100 of you are also complaining about zergs
Also less players less strain on server