I'm gonna stop right here... I need more coffee

CaffeinatedMayhem

Talfyg’s Treachery (Light)

2 – Adds 833 Spell Critical
3 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
4 – Adds 129 Spell Damage
5 – Increases Spell Damage by 372. Increases damage taken from Flame and Fighter’s Guild abilities by 10%.


Devs, please. Mag DK already has Elf Bane for infinite Grothdarr uptime. They already have fossilize, the cc that doesn't have a cool down, and you can't ever break out, even with full stamina bar.
THEY DON'T NEED FIGHTERS GUILD SKILLS TOO.

Please, PLEASE stop buffing Mag DK? Or make fossilize obey CC immunity.

Onefrkncrzypope

Increases damage taken not done

CaffeinatedMayhem

ah, you are correct. Let me get another cup of coffee.

Unleashed Terror (Medium)

2 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage
3 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
4 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
5 – When you deal direct damage with a Charge, Leap, Teleport, or Pull ability, you cut your enemy, causing them to bleed for 5 seconds, dealing 19728 Physical Damage over the duration. This ability can occur once every 10 seconds per target.

Oh hey.. Necro does NOT need this.

Thevampirenight

That isn't a buff to fighters guild while wearing that set you are 10% more vulnerable to fighters guild abilities and fire. So you have a 10% fire weakness ontop of a 10% fighters guild weakness while wearing this making It a kiss curse set.

Zer0_CooL

Why would anyone wear that set. It looks like julioanos disabled brother.

Fur_like_snow

Vampire set seems pretty bad compared to say NMA. What’s the issue?

jaws343

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

ah, you are correct. Let me get another cup of coffee.

Unleashed Terror (Medium)

2 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage
3 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
4 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
5 – When you deal direct damage with a Charge, Leap, Teleport, or Pull ability, you cut your enemy, causing them to bleed for 5 seconds, dealing 19728 Physical Damage over the duration. This ability can occur once every 10 seconds per target.

Oh hey.. Necro does NOT need this.

This set is going to be monstrous on a stamDK. Also, with the changes to Pillar of Nirn, DKs are going to wreck people with leap.

Pillar of Nirn:

This set now deals 4718 damage initially and 23590 over 10 seconds, up from 2000 initially and 10000 over 10 seconds.
Removed the proc chance from this set. Now when you deal damage, you create a fissure under the enemy that after 1 second deals 4718 physical damage to all enemies within 2.5 meters and causing them to bleed for an additional 23590 physical damage over 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
Fixed an issue where this set's Damage over Time could not stack from multiple players.

wastelandexplorer1

Also I can just use bsw now all u gotta do is use a flame ability witch almost all classes use at least one

katorga

Is it just me or are the magicka sets sub par this patch?

10% more fire/FG curse should come with around 1200 spell damage. Sheesh, every old set in the game got bumped from 400 to 600 damage.

CaffeinatedMayhem

wastelandexplorer1 wrote: »

Also I can just use bsw now all u gotta do is use a flame ability witch almost all classes use at least one

Eh, as a sorc, no. Unless it's going to count crushing shock because it has a flame component.

bluebird

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Unleashed Terror (Medium)
5 – When you deal direct damage with a Charge, Leap, Teleport, or Pull ability, you cut your enemy, causing them to bleed for 5 seconds, dealing 19728 Physical Damage over the duration. This ability can occur once every 10 seconds per target.

Heh-heh-heh *rubs hands excitedly* That set +
'Perfected Merciless Charge
2 items: Adds 1190 Physical Penetration, Dealing damage with Critical Charge causes enemies to bleed for 10032 Physical Damage over 5 seconds'
+
'Critical Rush
Launch across the earth and smash an enemy for X Physical Damage.
Deals up to 50% more damage, based on distance traveled.
This attack is always a Critical Strike.'
+
'Heavy Weapons
WITH A TWO-HANDED WEAPON EQUIPPED
Grants bonus based on the type of weapon equipped:
Swords increase your damage done by 6%.'

I'm not good at maths, but if someone can add up how much damage pressing 1 single charge button will do now with the right setup, I think it will be 'too damn high' And that's without buffs like Major Brutality and Savagery and Minor Berserk.

Ventru7

Also why are two magicka sets are for dd. No heal set but weirdly one of the stam sets is a support set.

nvm second magicka set is like martial knowledge/zen

CaffeinatedMayhem

katorga wrote: »

Is it just me or are the magicka sets sub par this patch?

10% more fire/FG curse should come with around 1200 spell damage. Sheesh, every old set in the game got bumped from 400 to 600 damage.

Magicka sets have been sub par for a while, it's all "generate stacks" bs, while stamina gets straight up damage.

wastelandexplorer1

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

wastelandexplorer1 wrote: »

Also I can just use bsw now all u gotta do is use a flame ability witch almost all classes use at least one

Eh, as a sorc, no. Unless it's going to count crushing shock because it has a flame component.

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

wastelandexplorer1 wrote: »

Also I can just use bsw now all u gotta do is use a flame ability witch almost all classes use at least one

Eh, as a sorc, no. Unless it's going to count crushing shock because it has a flame component.

Yeah crushing shock is considered a shock flame and frost damge skill

CaffeinatedMayhem

wastelandexplorer1 wrote: »

Yeah crushing shock is considered a shock flame and frost damge skill

Elemental Catalyst (Light)

2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
3 – Adds 833 Spell Critical
4 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
5 – Whenever you deal Flame, Shock, or Frost Damage, you apply a stack of Flame, Shock, or Frost Weakness to the enemy for 5 seconds. Each stack of an Elemental Weakness increases their Critical Damage taken by 6%. An enemy can only have one stack of each Elemental Weakness at a time.

This plus War Maiden, Scathing Mage, or Mothers Sorrow is going to be new PvP meta. One Crushing shock is 18% on crit damage.

StShoot

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Talfyg’s Treachery (Light)

2 – Adds 833 Spell Critical
3 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
4 – Adds 129 Spell Damage
5 – Increases Spell Damage by 372. Increases damage taken from Flame and Fighter’s Guild abilities by 10%.


Devs, please. Mag DK already has Elf Bane for infinite Grothdarr uptime. They already have fossilize, the cc that doesn't have a cool down, and you can't ever break out, even with full stamina bar.
THEY DON'T NEED FIGHTERS GUILD SKILLS TOO.

Please, PLEASE stop buffing Mag DK? Or make fossilize obey CC immunity.

Actual can we pls take the idea of the op and change it to DEAL more flame and fighters guild dmg ?

Just reduce the spell dmg granted to 250/300 and call it Robes of the vampirehunter or something like that... and we have a decent set.
Instead of the "disabeld brother of juljanos (new moon)"

bluebird wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Unleashed Terror (Medium)
5 – When you deal direct damage with a Charge, Leap, Teleport, or Pull ability, you cut your enemy, causing them to bleed for 5 seconds, dealing 19728 Physical Damage over the duration. This ability can occur once every 10 seconds per target.

Heh-heh-heh *rubs hands excitedly* That set +
'Perfected Merciless Charge
2 items: Adds 1190 Physical Penetration, Dealing damage with Critical Charge causes enemies to bleed for 10032 Physical Damage over 5 seconds'
+
'Critical Rush
Launch across the earth and smash an enemy for X Physical Damage.
Deals up to 50% more damage, based on distance traveled.
This attack is always a Critical Strike.'
+
'Heavy Weapons
WITH A TWO-HANDED WEAPON EQUIPPED
Grants bonus based on the type of weapon equipped:
Swords increase your damage done by 6%.'

I'm not good at maths, but if someone can add up how much damage pressing 1 single charge button will do now with the right setup, I think it will be 'too damn high' And that's without buffs like Major Brutality and Savagery and Minor Berserk.

You will rub your hands till every bowtard/zergling uses this set....

bluebird

StShoot wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Talfyg’s Treachery (Light)

2 – Adds 833 Spell Critical
3 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
4 – Adds 129 Spell Damage
5 – Increases Spell Damage by 372. Increases damage taken from Flame and Fighter’s Guild abilities by 10%.


Devs, please. Mag DK already has Elf Bane for infinite Grothdarr uptime. They already have fossilize, the cc that doesn't have a cool down, and you can't ever break out, even with full stamina bar.
THEY DON'T NEED FIGHTERS GUILD SKILLS TOO.

Please, PLEASE stop buffing Mag DK? Or make fossilize obey CC immunity.

Actual can we pls take the idea of the op and change it to DEAL more flame and fighters guild dmg ?

Just reduce the spell dmg granted to 250/300 and call it Robes of the vampirehunter or something like that... and we have a decent set.
Instead of the "disabeld brother of juljanos (new moon)"

bluebird wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Unleashed Terror (Medium)
5 – When you deal direct damage with a Charge, Leap, Teleport, or Pull ability, you cut your enemy, causing them to bleed for 5 seconds, dealing 19728 Physical Damage over the duration. This ability can occur once every 10 seconds per target.

Heh-heh-heh *rubs hands excitedly* That set +
'Perfected Merciless Charge
2 items: Adds 1190 Physical Penetration, Dealing damage with Critical Charge causes enemies to bleed for 10032 Physical Damage over 5 seconds'
+
'Critical Rush
Launch across the earth and smash an enemy for X Physical Damage.
Deals up to 50% more damage, based on distance traveled.
This attack is always a Critical Strike.'
+
'Heavy Weapons
WITH A TWO-HANDED WEAPON EQUIPPED
Grants bonus based on the type of weapon equipped:
Swords increase your damage done by 6%.'

I'm not good at maths, but if someone can add up how much damage pressing 1 single charge button will do now with the right setup, I think it will be 'too damn high' And that's without buffs like Major Brutality and Savagery and Minor Berserk.

You will rub your hands till every bowtard/zergling uses this set....

I mean, I was planning on being one of those zerglings and wreck faces by charging around the place, but we'll see. I'm eager to test this to see whether it's broken AF or 'working as intended'.

Davadin

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

ah, you are correct. Let me get another cup of coffee.

Unleashed Terror (Medium)

2 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage
3 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
4 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
5 – When you deal direct damage with a Charge, Leap, Teleport, or Pull ability, you cut your enemy, causing them to bleed for 5 seconds, dealing 19728 Physical Damage over the duration. This ability can occur once every 10 seconds per target.

Oh hey.. Necro does NOT need this.

wait wait wait.

what is this?

where is this?

LEAP, as in... DK LEAP????????

CaffeinatedMayhem

Davadin wrote: »

where is this?

LEAP, as in... DK LEAP????????

oh yeah, that's gonna suck

Davadin

bluebird wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Unleashed Terror (Medium)
5 – When you deal direct damage with a Charge, Leap, Teleport, or Pull ability, you cut your enemy, causing them to bleed for 5 seconds, dealing 19728 Physical Damage over the duration. This ability can occur once every 10 seconds per target.

Heh-heh-heh *rubs hands excitedly* That set +
'Perfected Merciless Charge
2 items: Adds 1190 Physical Penetration, Dealing damage with Critical Charge causes enemies to bleed for 10032 Physical Damage over 5 seconds'
+
'Critical Rush
Launch across the earth and smash an enemy for X Physical Damage.
Deals up to 50% more damage, based on distance traveled.
This attack is always a Critical Strike.'
+
'Heavy Weapons
WITH A TWO-HANDED WEAPON EQUIPPED
Grants bonus based on the type of weapon equipped:
Swords increase your damage done by 6%.'

I'm not good at maths, but if someone can add up how much damage pressing 1 single charge button will do now with the right setup, I think it will be 'too damn high' And that's without buffs like Major Brutality and Savagery and Minor Berserk.

oh [Snip]....


do all that but the Stampede morph that has AoE on hit then Leap on a group of people.

stamDK gonna be a walking bomb.

[Edited for minor profanity bypass]

Abyssmol

bluebird wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Unleashed Terror (Medium)
5 – When you deal direct damage with a Charge, Leap, Teleport, or Pull ability, you cut your enemy, causing them to bleed for 5 seconds, dealing 19728 Physical Damage over the duration. This ability can occur once every 10 seconds per target.

Heh-heh-heh *rubs hands excitedly* That set +
'Perfected Merciless Charge
2 items: Adds 1190 Physical Penetration, Dealing damage with Critical Charge causes enemies to bleed for 10032 Physical Damage over 5 seconds'
+
'Critical Rush
Launch across the earth and smash an enemy for X Physical Damage.
Deals up to 50% more damage, based on distance traveled.
This attack is always a Critical Strike.'
+
'Heavy Weapons
WITH A TWO-HANDED WEAPON EQUIPPED
Grants bonus based on the type of weapon equipped:
Swords increase your damage done by 6%.'

I'm not good at maths, but if someone can add up how much damage pressing 1 single charge button will do now with the right setup, I think it will be 'too damn high' And that's without buffs like Major Brutality and Savagery and Minor Berserk.

Lol 5 seconds dead sentence... this game is broken

idk

I like this thread.

JayKwellen

hol on hol on hol on hol on hol on...

So you're telling me that magicka gets a set which increases our damage taken by DK's and dawnbreakers (and those silver shards spamming sniper abominations) while being objectively weaker than most other sets already in the game, while stamina gets a 19,728 DOT over 5 seconds every 10 seconds? Man I'm out bruh...

Wait no I'm not, what's this??

Elemental Catalyst (Light)

2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
3 – Adds 833 Spell Critical
4 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
5 – Whenever you deal Flame, Shock, or Frost Damage, you apply a stack of Flame, Shock, or Frost Weakness to the enemy for 5 seconds. Each stack of an Elemental Weakness increases their Critical Damage taken by 6%. An enemy can only have one stack of each Elemental Weakness at a time.

Maaaaan, as much as I hate the BS "generate stacks of this and whatever" mini-game ZOS likes to force mag classes to play, this right here could be fun, right? I mean...a 18% increase in crit damage? Awesome!

You know who this set is like, perfectly tailor made for? Us magblades! We already have to play the stupid "build stacks" game, so how awesome it would be to line this up with a spectral bow!

Oh wait. We don't have any flame, shock, or frost abilities tho? And we can't really run force pulse because we also don't really have much healing and need that swallow soul heal.

Welp. Woulda been fun. Oh well.