Summerset Event and the Grand Psijic Villa

Ozby

joerginger wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

was the same for the elsweyr event as well last year

Linaleah wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

SshadowSscale wrote: »

Was not really free.... It was given to players who had bought summerset before a certain date.... Think of it as a pre order tyoe deal.... If you buy it before x date you get these free bonus items. Thus saying that zos should give it for free again is like saying all the other pre order bonuses shouod also bee given for free again.

Wrong! it was a reward for hitting the highest tier during the summerset community event where as many players as possible had to get the pathfinder achiev on all platforms and servers.

@idk and @Linaleah

IDK is correct - you just had to log in to qualify. yes it was a reward for filling that meter, but that meter did NOT require every single person to participate and more importantly, if you didn't participate, but owned summerset and logged in during specified period - you got the villa as well EVEN if you haven't gone into summerset the entire time, let alone completed pathfinder.

edited to add. 1. while I think it was a nice thing to do as a community, i'm pretty certain that the way event was set up is that no matter the participation, we would have gotten all the rewards. reminded me a LOT about that one scene in Galaxy quest, where they have to disable the reactor and they make it in with time to spare... except timer keeps going until stopping with 2 seconds on a clock... because that's how it always stopped on the show to add to tension. reminder - that progress meter? was not updated in real time but rather updated manually once a day. so for all we know - they had those screen grabs ready to go before even even started

2. I personaly have no issue with villa coming back in some fashion. make it a crown purchase for a limited time during summerset celebration event if anything. think murkmire. those that did logging in daily - got the DLC added as part of login rewards for that month, no payment required. everyone else has to either buy it, or be subscribed to acess it.

You only had to log in if you already had the achievement.

@Ozby

It was never an individual requirement to gain the achievement.

In the post just before you boldly claimed @Linaleah and myself were wrong I had shared the link to the article from the ESO Newsfeed on the event. It clearly states the only requirement was owning the chapter and login into the game by Oct. 7 of that year. Have a look for yourself as I provided real information to back up my comment.

This is definitely true because I had bought the game at that time, but I hadn't actually started playing yet. The thought of really playing an MMO was just too intimidating. I did log in every day, though, so when I eventually began playing, the house was in my account although I didn't have a single achievement.

That does not make it true as not everyone had to do the achievement to get the house, just enough players in the community had to get the achievement and then everyone who had summerset got the house after we had filled the bar up. So yes there are player who got it and did not help by getting the achievement.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Can we please get confirmation on this I am sick of arguing with these people and could almost swear on my life we had to get pathfinder achievement for the summerset event to get the Psijic Villa for free when the event first came out?

VaranisArano

Ozby wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

was the same for the elsweyr event as well last year

Linaleah wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

SshadowSscale wrote: »

Was not really free.... It was given to players who had bought summerset before a certain date.... Think of it as a pre order tyoe deal.... If you buy it before x date you get these free bonus items. Thus saying that zos should give it for free again is like saying all the other pre order bonuses shouod also bee given for free again.

Wrong! it was a reward for hitting the highest tier during the summerset community event where as many players as possible had to get the pathfinder achiev on all platforms and servers.

idk and Linaleah

IDK is correct - you just had to log in to qualify. yes it was a reward for filling that meter, but that meter did NOT require every single person to participate and more importantly, if you didn't participate, but owned summerset and logged in during specified period - you got the villa as well EVEN if you haven't gone into summerset the entire time, let alone completed pathfinder.

edited to add. 1. while I think it was a nice thing to do as a community, i'm pretty certain that the way event was set up is that no matter the participation, we would have gotten all the rewards. reminded me a LOT about that one scene in Galaxy quest, where they have to disable the reactor and they make it in with time to spare... except timer keeps going until stopping with 2 seconds on a clock... because that's how it always stopped on the show to add to tension. reminder - that progress meter? was not updated in real time but rather updated manually once a day. so for all we know - they had those screen grabs ready to go before even even started

2. I personaly have no issue with villa coming back in some fashion. make it a crown purchase for a limited time during summerset celebration event if anything. think murkmire. those that did logging in daily - got the DLC added as part of login rewards for that month, no payment required. everyone else has to either buy it, or be subscribed to acess it.

You only had to log in if you already had the achievement.

Ozby

It was never an individual requirement to gain the achievement.

In the post just before you boldly claimed Linaleah and myself were wrong I had shared the link to the article from the ESO Newsfeed on the event. It clearly states the only requirement was owning the chapter and login into the game by Oct. 7 of that year. Have a look for yourself as I provided real information to back up my comment.

I had already looked at that but after the loading bar disappeared (after event)it seems the rest of the info about getting pathfinder achievement is also gone. I distinctly remember this as I created an account on EU to get the pathfinder achievement on as well cause the only thing I wanted was the house and we had to fill the bar up to full to get it.

We're all being really pedantic about this, aren't we?

The weird thing is, we're all partly right.

Twp things had to happen in order to get the Psijic villa. One was a community effort and the other is the responsibility of the individual player.

1. Enough players had to get the Summerset pathfinder achievement before or during the Summerfall event to meet ZOS' goal. What that number was, we have no clue because ZOS only released a percentage (because it was a marketing stunt, not a real challenge.) It was definitely less than 100% of Summerset owners. You can read more discussion about the achievement requirements here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436140/official-discussion-thread-for-unlock-a-stunning-villa-mount-pet-during-the-summerfall-event/p1

2. The player must log in once while owning Summerset by Oct 7th, 2018. The Pathfinder achievement was not required to receive any rewards earned by the community.
Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54801
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/summerfall


The official sources make it quite clear that the community must gain sufficient pathfinder achievements to unlock the reward tiers, but that individual players need do nothing more than log in while owning Summerset before the cut off.

Nobody could get the villa without community effort.
Because of the community effort, individual players could get the villa for nothing more than owning Summerset and logging in before the cutoff.

Was it free?
Well, if you already owned Summerset, it was a house you earned through in-game means. That's about as free as you get in an MMO, I think.
If you bought Summerset on sale during the event, it was a sales promotion similar to pre-order bonuses: "Buy now and get a house, mount, and pet free!"

idk

Ozby wrote: »

joerginger wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

was the same for the elsweyr event as well last year

Linaleah wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

SshadowSscale wrote: »

Was not really free.... It was given to players who had bought summerset before a certain date.... Think of it as a pre order tyoe deal.... If you buy it before x date you get these free bonus items. Thus saying that zos should give it for free again is like saying all the other pre order bonuses shouod also bee given for free again.

Wrong! it was a reward for hitting the highest tier during the summerset community event where as many players as possible had to get the pathfinder achiev on all platforms and servers.

@idk and @Linaleah

IDK is correct - you just had to log in to qualify. yes it was a reward for filling that meter, but that meter did NOT require every single person to participate and more importantly, if you didn't participate, but owned summerset and logged in during specified period - you got the villa as well EVEN if you haven't gone into summerset the entire time, let alone completed pathfinder.

edited to add. 1. while I think it was a nice thing to do as a community, i'm pretty certain that the way event was set up is that no matter the participation, we would have gotten all the rewards. reminded me a LOT about that one scene in Galaxy quest, where they have to disable the reactor and they make it in with time to spare... except timer keeps going until stopping with 2 seconds on a clock... because that's how it always stopped on the show to add to tension. reminder - that progress meter? was not updated in real time but rather updated manually once a day. so for all we know - they had those screen grabs ready to go before even even started

2. I personaly have no issue with villa coming back in some fashion. make it a crown purchase for a limited time during summerset celebration event if anything. think murkmire. those that did logging in daily - got the DLC added as part of login rewards for that month, no payment required. everyone else has to either buy it, or be subscribed to acess it.

You only had to log in if you already had the achievement.

@Ozby

It was never an individual requirement to gain the achievement.

In the post just before you boldly claimed @Linaleah and myself were wrong I had shared the link to the article from the ESO Newsfeed on the event. It clearly states the only requirement was owning the chapter and login into the game by Oct. 7 of that year. Have a look for yourself as I provided real information to back up my comment.

This is definitely true because I had bought the game at that time, but I hadn't actually started playing yet. The thought of really playing an MMO was just too intimidating. I did log in every day, though, so when I eventually began playing, the house was in my account although I didn't have a single achievement.

That does not make it true as not everyone had to do the achievement to get the house, just enough players in the community had to get the achievement and then everyone who had summerset got the house after we had filled the bar up. So yes there are player who got it and did not help by getting the achievement.

Can we please get confirmation on this I am sick of arguing with these people and could almost swear on my life we had to get pathfinder achievement for the summerset event to get the Psijic Villa for free when the event first came out?

The link below is the confirmation as it is the official news statement from Zos on the event and states very clearly what I have in quotes below. Nowhere in there does it state an individual must complete the Summerset Pathfinder Achievement to be eligible to receive the reward.

In order to be eligible to receive the rewards, you must have logged into the game while owning ESO: Summerset at least once (since its initial launch in June) by Sunday, October 7 at 8:00PM EDT.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54801

Just in case that very clear and specific information is not convincing enough I am providing a link of Gina answering someone's question on this. The question asks if they do not complete the achievement while they still get the house. Gina answers that they are correct. I cannot imagine having any questions about this after this second solid piece of information.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5460711/#Comment_5460711

Many of us completed the achievement on both servers we can access to help push the community goal farther. The community goal was the requirement to unlock the house for everyone that met the lesser requirements.

All this should be very obvious since the deadline to for the community to unlock the house ended before the deadline for login into the game while owning the chapter. The event itself, time frame for the community to complete the achievement and unlock the house, ended on September 28. However, we had until October 7 to log into the game while owning the chapter.

Just in case that tidbit of information is also called into question I have yet another link to an official Zos communication of FAQs for the event. That comes from the first FAQ.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/summerfall

I provided firm proof before the first time I was told I was wrong about this so I can understand why I may still be wrong after this formidable set of official communication from Zos that further backs up what I have stated in this thread.

Ozby

and there is my proof you need to click on her link in that section to see
https://imgur.com/nexLlgF
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/summerfall

Ozby

idk wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

joerginger wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

was the same for the elsweyr event as well last year

Linaleah wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

SshadowSscale wrote: »

Was not really free.... It was given to players who had bought summerset before a certain date.... Think of it as a pre order tyoe deal.... If you buy it before x date you get these free bonus items. Thus saying that zos should give it for free again is like saying all the other pre order bonuses shouod also bee given for free again.

Wrong! it was a reward for hitting the highest tier during the summerset community event where as many players as possible had to get the pathfinder achiev on all platforms and servers.

@idk and @Linaleah

IDK is correct - you just had to log in to qualify. yes it was a reward for filling that meter, but that meter did NOT require every single person to participate and more importantly, if you didn't participate, but owned summerset and logged in during specified period - you got the villa as well EVEN if you haven't gone into summerset the entire time, let alone completed pathfinder.

edited to add. 1. while I think it was a nice thing to do as a community, i'm pretty certain that the way event was set up is that no matter the participation, we would have gotten all the rewards. reminded me a LOT about that one scene in Galaxy quest, where they have to disable the reactor and they make it in with time to spare... except timer keeps going until stopping with 2 seconds on a clock... because that's how it always stopped on the show to add to tension. reminder - that progress meter? was not updated in real time but rather updated manually once a day. so for all we know - they had those screen grabs ready to go before even even started

2. I personaly have no issue with villa coming back in some fashion. make it a crown purchase for a limited time during summerset celebration event if anything. think murkmire. those that did logging in daily - got the DLC added as part of login rewards for that month, no payment required. everyone else has to either buy it, or be subscribed to acess it.

You only had to log in if you already had the achievement.

@Ozby

It was never an individual requirement to gain the achievement.

In the post just before you boldly claimed @Linaleah and myself were wrong I had shared the link to the article from the ESO Newsfeed on the event. It clearly states the only requirement was owning the chapter and login into the game by Oct. 7 of that year. Have a look for yourself as I provided real information to back up my comment.

This is definitely true because I had bought the game at that time, but I hadn't actually started playing yet. The thought of really playing an MMO was just too intimidating. I did log in every day, though, so when I eventually began playing, the house was in my account although I didn't have a single achievement.

That does not make it true as not everyone had to do the achievement to get the house, just enough players in the community had to get the achievement and then everyone who had summerset got the house after we had filled the bar up. So yes there are player who got it and did not help by getting the achievement.

Can we please get confirmation on this I am sick of arguing with these people and could almost swear on my life we had to get pathfinder achievement for the summerset event to get the Psijic Villa for free when the event first came out?

The link below is the confirmation as it is the official news statement from Zos on the event and states very clearly what I have in quotes below. Nowhere in there does it state an individual must complete the Summerset Pathfinder Achievement to be eligible to receive the reward.

In order to be eligible to receive the rewards, you must have logged into the game while owning ESO: Summerset at least once (since its initial launch in June) by Sunday, October 7 at 8:00PM EDT.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54801

Just in case that very clear and specific information is not convincing enough I am providing a link of Gina answering someone's question on this. The question asks if they do not complete the achievement while they still get the house. Gina answers that they are correct. I cannot imagine having any questions about this after this second solid piece of information.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5460711/#Comment_5460711

Many of us completed the achievement on both servers we can access to help push the community goal farther. The community goal was the requirement to unlock the house for everyone that met the lesser requirements.

All this should be very obvious since the deadline to for the community to unlock the house ended before the deadline for login into the game while owning the chapter. The event itself, time frame for the community to complete the achievement and unlock the house, ended on September 28. However, we had until October 7 to log into the game while owning the chapter.

Just in case that tidbit of information is also called into question I have yet another link to an official Zos communication of FAQs for the event. That comes from the first FAQ.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/summerfall

I provided firm proof before the first time I was told I was wrong about this so I can understand why I may still be wrong after this formidable set of official communication from Zos that further backs up what I have stated in this thread.

I'm sorry but you are still missing the point but I give up trying to convince you about this now as you just do not seem to understand what I've been trying to explain to you.

But i see here now your contradicting yourself from earlier and agreeing with me all of a sudden-
Many of us completed the achievement on both servers we can access to help push the community goal farther. The community goal was the requirement to unlock the house for everyone that met the lesser requirements.

All this should be very obvious since the deadline to for the community to unlock the house ended before the deadline for login into the game while owning the chapter. The event itself, time frame for the community to complete the achievement and unlock the house, ended on September 28. However, we had until October 7 to log into the game while owning the chapter

Since we now know we needed pathfinder to help fill the bar to get the house and not just log in we can move on from this silly argument. And will not be replying to anymore of your answers.

Ozby

VaranisArano wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

was the same for the elsweyr event as well last year

Linaleah wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

SshadowSscale wrote: »

Was not really free.... It was given to players who had bought summerset before a certain date.... Think of it as a pre order tyoe deal.... If you buy it before x date you get these free bonus items. Thus saying that zos should give it for free again is like saying all the other pre order bonuses shouod also bee given for free again.

Wrong! it was a reward for hitting the highest tier during the summerset community event where as many players as possible had to get the pathfinder achiev on all platforms and servers.

idk and Linaleah

IDK is correct - you just had to log in to qualify. yes it was a reward for filling that meter, but that meter did NOT require every single person to participate and more importantly, if you didn't participate, but owned summerset and logged in during specified period - you got the villa as well EVEN if you haven't gone into summerset the entire time, let alone completed pathfinder.

edited to add. 1. while I think it was a nice thing to do as a community, i'm pretty certain that the way event was set up is that no matter the participation, we would have gotten all the rewards. reminded me a LOT about that one scene in Galaxy quest, where they have to disable the reactor and they make it in with time to spare... except timer keeps going until stopping with 2 seconds on a clock... because that's how it always stopped on the show to add to tension. reminder - that progress meter? was not updated in real time but rather updated manually once a day. so for all we know - they had those screen grabs ready to go before even even started

2. I personaly have no issue with villa coming back in some fashion. make it a crown purchase for a limited time during summerset celebration event if anything. think murkmire. those that did logging in daily - got the DLC added as part of login rewards for that month, no payment required. everyone else has to either buy it, or be subscribed to acess it.

You only had to log in if you already had the achievement.

Ozby

It was never an individual requirement to gain the achievement.

In the post just before you boldly claimed Linaleah and myself were wrong I had shared the link to the article from the ESO Newsfeed on the event. It clearly states the only requirement was owning the chapter and login into the game by Oct. 7 of that year. Have a look for yourself as I provided real information to back up my comment.

I had already looked at that but after the loading bar disappeared (after event)it seems the rest of the info about getting pathfinder achievement is also gone. I distinctly remember this as I created an account on EU to get the pathfinder achievement on as well cause the only thing I wanted was the house and we had to fill the bar up to full to get it.

We're all being really pedantic about this, aren't we?

The weird thing is, we're all partly right.

Twp things had to happen in order to get the Psijic villa. One was a community effort and the other is the responsibility of the individual player.

1. Enough players had to get the Summerset pathfinder achievement before or during the Summerfall event to meet ZOS' goal. What that number was, we have no clue because ZOS only released a percentage (because it was a marketing stunt, not a real challenge.) It was definitely less than 100% of Summerset owners. You can read more discussion about the achievement requirements here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436140/official-discussion-thread-for-unlock-a-stunning-villa-mount-pet-during-the-summerfall-event/p1

2. The player must log in once while owning Summerset by Oct 7th, 2018. The Pathfinder achievement was not required to receive any rewards earned by the community.
Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54801
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/summerfall


The official sources make it quite clear that the community must gain sufficient pathfinder achievements to unlock the reward tiers, but that individual players need do nothing more than log in while owning Summerset before the cut off.

Nobody could get the villa without community effort.
Because of the community effort, individual players could get the villa for nothing more than owning Summerset and logging in before the cutoff.

Was it free?
Well, if you already owned Summerset, it was a house you earned through in-game means. That's about as free as you get in an MMO, I think.
If you bought Summerset on sale during the event, it was a sales promotion similar to pre-order bonuses: "Buy now and get a house, mount, and pet free!"

Yes thank you exactly what Ive been trying to tell these people all along thanks for confirming it as well.

idk

Ozby wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

joerginger wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

was the same for the elsweyr event as well last year

Linaleah wrote: »

Ozby wrote: »

SshadowSscale wrote: »

Was not really free.... It was given to players who had bought summerset before a certain date.... Think of it as a pre order tyoe deal.... If you buy it before x date you get these free bonus items. Thus saying that zos should give it for free again is like saying all the other pre order bonuses shouod also bee given for free again.

Wrong! it was a reward for hitting the highest tier during the summerset community event where as many players as possible had to get the pathfinder achiev on all platforms and servers.

@idk and @Linaleah

IDK is correct - you just had to log in to qualify. yes it was a reward for filling that meter, but that meter did NOT require every single person to participate and more importantly, if you didn't participate, but owned summerset and logged in during specified period - you got the villa as well EVEN if you haven't gone into summerset the entire time, let alone completed pathfinder.

edited to add. 1. while I think it was a nice thing to do as a community, i'm pretty certain that the way event was set up is that no matter the participation, we would have gotten all the rewards. reminded me a LOT about that one scene in Galaxy quest, where they have to disable the reactor and they make it in with time to spare... except timer keeps going until stopping with 2 seconds on a clock... because that's how it always stopped on the show to add to tension. reminder - that progress meter? was not updated in real time but rather updated manually once a day. so for all we know - they had those screen grabs ready to go before even even started

2. I personaly have no issue with villa coming back in some fashion. make it a crown purchase for a limited time during summerset celebration event if anything. think murkmire. those that did logging in daily - got the DLC added as part of login rewards for that month, no payment required. everyone else has to either buy it, or be subscribed to acess it.

You only had to log in if you already had the achievement.

@Ozby

It was never an individual requirement to gain the achievement.

In the post just before you boldly claimed @Linaleah and myself were wrong I had shared the link to the article from the ESO Newsfeed on the event. It clearly states the only requirement was owning the chapter and login into the game by Oct. 7 of that year. Have a look for yourself as I provided real information to back up my comment.

This is definitely true because I had bought the game at that time, but I hadn't actually started playing yet. The thought of really playing an MMO was just too intimidating. I did log in every day, though, so when I eventually began playing, the house was in my account although I didn't have a single achievement.

That does not make it true as not everyone had to do the achievement to get the house, just enough players in the community had to get the achievement and then everyone who had summerset got the house after we had filled the bar up. So yes there are player who got it and did not help by getting the achievement.

Can we please get confirmation on this I am sick of arguing with these people and could almost swear on my life we had to get pathfinder achievement for the summerset event to get the Psijic Villa for free when the event first came out?

The link below is the confirmation as it is the official news statement from Zos on the event and states very clearly what I have in quotes below. Nowhere in there does it state an individual must complete the Summerset Pathfinder Achievement to be eligible to receive the reward.

In order to be eligible to receive the rewards, you must have logged into the game while owning ESO: Summerset at least once (since its initial launch in June) by Sunday, October 7 at 8:00PM EDT.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54801

Just in case that very clear and specific information is not convincing enough I am providing a link of Gina answering someone's question on this. The question asks if they do not complete the achievement while they still get the house. Gina answers that they are correct. I cannot imagine having any questions about this after this second solid piece of information.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5460711/#Comment_5460711

Many of us completed the achievement on both servers we can access to help push the community goal farther. The community goal was the requirement to unlock the house for everyone that met the lesser requirements.

All this should be very obvious since the deadline to for the community to unlock the house ended before the deadline for login into the game while owning the chapter. The event itself, time frame for the community to complete the achievement and unlock the house, ended on September 28. However, we had until October 7 to log into the game while owning the chapter.

Just in case that tidbit of information is also called into question I have yet another link to an official Zos communication of FAQs for the event. That comes from the first FAQ.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/summerfall

I provided firm proof before the first time I was told I was wrong about this so I can understand why I may still be wrong after this formidable set of official communication from Zos that further backs up what I have stated in this thread.

I'm sorry but you are still missing the point but I give up trying to convince you about this now as you just do not seem to understand what I've been trying to explain to you.

But i see here now your contradicting yourself from earlier and agreeing with me all of a sudden-
Many of us completed the achievement on both servers we can access to help push the community goal farther. The community goal was the requirement to unlock the house for everyone that met the lesser requirements.

All this should be very obvious since the deadline to for the community to unlock the house ended before the deadline for login into the game while owning the chapter. The event itself, time frame for the community to complete the achievement and unlock the house, ended on September 28. However, we had until October 7 to log into the game while owning the chapter

Since we now know we needed pathfinder to help fill the bar to get the house and not just log in we can move on from this silly argument. And will not be replying to anymore of your answers.

I have not contradicted myself in any manner. Anyone that looks at the first page of this thread can easily see Linaleah and I was speaking only to the individual requirements and stating clearly that participation in the event itself, getting the achievement, was in fact not an individual requirement. Oddly we were boldly told we were wrong about that fact even though I had provided a link to a statement from Zos that clearly indicated we were 100% correct.

Anyone that goes back to when we were erroneously accused of being wrong can easily see we were talking solely about the individual requirement and have already provided an official statement from Zos that 100% confirmed we were correct just as To2C and Linealeah both said in their comments.

Have a good day. Enjoy the game.