Maintenance for the week of December 16:
• [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)

7-8 hour maintenance for what?

Keledus
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So we get nearly a day long maintenance without them telling us why.
Great communication, I'd rate it a -9000 out of 10.

Can we get some insight? @ZOS_GinaBruno
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  • FafiQ_xP
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    big game needs big maintenance :p
    For the Covenant!
  • Maxx7410
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    The hamsters where tired and they needed to rest some time.
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    Maybe they migrated to windows 2000 servers.
  • SeaGtGruff
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    According to the banner at the top of the forum's main page, maintenance is scheduled for 8 hours, which is a third of a day-- and less than half of a day is not "nearly a day long," so let's try to be patient.

    We know from the banner that the Crown Store and the player account system are included in the maintence, so they must be at least part of the reason for the maintenance.
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  • gatekeeper13
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    3 hours for failed maintenance + 2 hours to see what went wrong + 3 hours to fix it = 8 hours total

  • Keledus
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    According to the banner at the top of the forum's main page, maintenance is scheduled for 8 hours, which is a third of a day-- and less than half of a day is not "nearly a day long," so let's try to be patient.

    We know from the banner that the Crown Store and the player account system are included in the maintence, so they must be at least part of the reason for the maintenance.

    ''Third of a day'', the day I'm talking about is not 24 hours, take your 8 hour sleep off, leaves 16 hours, so atleast half a day.
    And considering timezones yes its like the entire day for me might be different for you eitherway its besides the point of this whole thread.

    Point being, the communication.
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  • redgreensunset
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    According to the banner at the top of the forum's main page, maintenance is scheduled for 8 hours, which is a third of a day-- and less than half of a day is not "nearly a day long," so let's try to be patient.

    We know from the banner that the Crown Store and the player account system are included in the maintence, so they must be at least part of the reason for the maintenance.

    Considering that stuff like work/school and sleep are things for most people too, then yes 8 hours is a full day for some people depending on timezone because that's the only chance they have to play. Also at this point it isn't the odd extra long maintenance, EU have now had its last three maintenances be 6 hours or more so if not a full day then most of one.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    I'm guessing that they're rolling out changes/upgrades/updates to the underlying technology, across several maintenance cycles.

    And by the way, they're scheduling maintenance less often than they used to.
  • lucky_Sage
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    Have you been playing these last two patches this is the worst the game has ever ran
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  • Elrond87
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    nothing new why would they break a habbit of a life time
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  • amm7sb14_ESO
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    Keledus wrote: »
    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    According to the banner at the top of the forum's main page, maintenance is scheduled for 8 hours, which is a third of a day-- and less than half of a day is not "nearly a day long," so let's try to be patient.

    We know from the banner that the Crown Store and the player account system are included in the maintence, so they must be at least part of the reason for the maintenance.

    ''Third of a day'', the day I'm talking about is not 24 hours, take your 8 hour sleep off, leaves 16 hours, so atleast half a day.
    And considering timezones yes its like the entire day for me might be different for you eitherway its besides the point of this whole thread.

    Point being, the communication.

    Whichever time zone you're in, it is scheduled for the dead middle of night on a Tuesday morning when everyone is asleep. Or at least the bulk of the population.
  • Elsonso
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    Keledus wrote: »
    So we get nearly a day long maintenance without them telling us why.
    Great communication, I'd rate it a -9000 out of 10.

    Can we get some insight? @ZOS_GinaBruno

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  • WySoSirius
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    gotta spend 7-8 hours makin sure those Bugs Lag and load screens are in tip top shape for when we get to log in again :D
  • DTStormfox
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    Well, your question answers your own question, doesn't it?
    They have 7-8 hour maintenance to do maintenance.
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  • Magenpie
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    Maxx7410 wrote: »
    The hamsters where tired and they needed to rest some time.

    I don't think it's hamsters, I think it's grubby urchins turning handles. Oh and tiny dogs on medieval treadmills. *nods confidently*
  • FierceSam
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    I think the communication is "it's maintenance... it will take hours".

    I don't necessarily think there's any benefit in ZOS being much more communicative than that. It's not like knowing that they did X, Y and Z will make you feel any better about it.

    When there is maintenance that involves actual changes to the game we get patch notes.
  • SmukkeHeks
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    Keledus wrote: »
    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    According to the banner at the top of the forum's main page, maintenance is scheduled for 8 hours, which is a third of a day-- and less than half of a day is not "nearly a day long," so let's try to be patient.

    We know from the banner that the Crown Store and the player account system are included in the maintence, so they must be at least part of the reason for the maintenance.

    ''Third of a day'', the day I'm talking about is not 24 hours, take your 8 hour sleep off, leaves 16 hours, so atleast half a day.
    And considering timezones yes its like the entire day for me might be different for you eitherway its besides the point of this whole thread.

    Point being, the communication.

    Whichever time zone you're in, it is scheduled for the dead middle of night on a Tuesday morning when everyone is asleep. Or at least the bulk of the population.

    It started at 9 and ended 15 in middle of Europe
  • PrimusNephilim
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    Keledus wrote: »
    So we get nearly a day long maintenance without them telling us why.
    Great communication, I'd rate it a -9000 out of 10.

    Can we get some insight? @ZOS_GinaBruno

    With all the issues currently at hand and regularly scheduled maintenance's, you're really going to sit there and complain about lengthy down time for maintenance? You complain about performance, you complain about maintenance...which is it going to be or do you just complain when you're inconvenienced?
  • JamieAubrey
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    I love being on the EU server and sleeping all day and can skip the WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO FOR 10+ HOURS
  • TineaCruris
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    They didn't fix any bugs either, like Nunatak and the midyear horror achievement.
  • Donny_Vito
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    I have a feeling your rating wouldn't change even if they told you why you'd have to wait 7-8 hours.
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    FierceSam wrote: »
    When there is maintenance that involves actual changes to the game we get patch notes.

    Not necessarily. There have been plenty of instances where players have called them out on unannounced changes, and they said, “Oh yeah, we did that too.”

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  • agegarton
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    Based on my experience so far, the maintenance window was to increase the duration of loading screens by about 250 times.
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    SmukkeHeks wrote: »
    Keledus wrote: »
    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    According to the banner at the top of the forum's main page, maintenance is scheduled for 8 hours, which is a third of a day-- and less than half of a day is not "nearly a day long," so let's try to be patient.

    We know from the banner that the Crown Store and the player account system are included in the maintence, so they must be at least part of the reason for the maintenance.

    ''Third of a day'', the day I'm talking about is not 24 hours, take your 8 hour sleep off, leaves 16 hours, so atleast half a day.
    And considering timezones yes its like the entire day for me might be different for you eitherway its besides the point of this whole thread.

    Point being, the communication.

    Whichever time zone you're in, it is scheduled for the dead middle of night on a Tuesday morning when everyone is asleep. Or at least the bulk of the population.

    It started at 9 and ended 15 in middle of Europe

    But it's the North American server...
  • SmukkeHeks
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    SmukkeHeks wrote: »
    Keledus wrote: »
    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    According to the banner at the top of the forum's main page, maintenance is scheduled for 8 hours, which is a third of a day-- and less than half of a day is not "nearly a day long," so let's try to be patient.

    We know from the banner that the Crown Store and the player account system are included in the maintence, so they must be at least part of the reason for the maintenance.

    ''Third of a day'', the day I'm talking about is not 24 hours, take your 8 hour sleep off, leaves 16 hours, so atleast half a day.
    And considering timezones yes its like the entire day for me might be different for you eitherway its besides the point of this whole thread.

    Point being, the communication.

    Whichever time zone you're in, it is scheduled for the dead middle of night on a Tuesday morning when everyone is asleep. Or at least the bulk of the population.

    It started at 9 and ended 15 in middle of Europe

    But it's the North American server...

    Not the one that’s placed in Europe ...
  • dpr999
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    Keledus wrote: »
    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    According to the banner at the top of the forum's main page, maintenance is scheduled for 8 hours, which is a third of a day-- and less than half of a day is not "nearly a day long," so let's try to be patient.

    We know from the banner that the Crown Store and the player account system are included in the maintence, so they must be at least part of the reason for the maintenance.

    ''Third of a day'', the day I'm talking about is not 24 hours, take your 8 hour sleep off, leaves 16 hours, so atleast half a day.
    And considering timezones yes its like the entire day for me might be different for you eitherway its besides the point of this whole thread.

    Point being, the communication.

    As long as you want to count a "day" like that, do it right.

    You 8 hours for maintenance, plus the 8 hours you spend in bed, so that means it is 16 hours for maintenance. That's your starting point, I believe.

    Here is what you left out:

    8 hours for your job. Now it's 24 hours.
    1 hour lunch break from your work... 25 hours.
    30 minutes to travel to and from work (minimum) 25.5 hours.
    30 minutes for dinner... 26 hours
    15 minutes for breakfast... 26.25 hours
    30 minutes for shave, shower, brush teeth... 26.75 hours

    You mention time zone, which I guess means you went to bed in one time zone and woke up in a different one. I don't know how to calculate that. I also don't know how long you take for bathroom breaks, so I won't estimate that.

    Wow, more than a full day to perform maintenance! 26.75 hours! And they said it would be around 8 hours. What rotten communication!

    No, the point is not the communication. They did communicate. They are not required to calculate your personal time in coming up with an estimate. But in a way it's about communication: communicating honestly.

    If any of my calculations are off by a small amount, be sure to nit-pick that.


    Edited by dpr999 on July 7, 2020 4:31PM
  • DreamsUnderStars
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    Maintenance doesn't always mean patching. Cleaning, rebooting the severs, defragging if necessary stuff like that is all maintenance.
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    A well deserved rest for the servers. Especially after a huge event like midyear mayhem.
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  • JamieAubrey
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    dpr999 wrote: »
    Keledus wrote: »
    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    According to the banner at the top of the forum's main page, maintenance is scheduled for 8 hours, which is a third of a day-- and less than half of a day is not "nearly a day long," so let's try to be patient.

    We know from the banner that the Crown Store and the player account system are included in the maintence, so they must be at least part of the reason for the maintenance.

    ''Third of a day'', the day I'm talking about is not 24 hours, take your 8 hour sleep off, leaves 16 hours, so atleast half a day.
    And considering timezones yes its like the entire day for me might be different for you eitherway its besides the point of this whole thread.

    Point being, the communication.

    As long as you want to count a "day" like that, do it right.

    You 8 hours for maintenance, plus the 8 hours you spend in bed, so that means it is 16 hours for maintenance. That's your starting point, I believe.

    Here is what you left out:

    8 hours for your job. Now it's 24 hours.
    1 hour lunch break from your work... 25 hours.
    30 minutes to travel to and from work (minimum) 25.5 hours.
    30 minutes for dinner... 26 hours
    15 minutes for breakfast... 26.25 hours
    30 minutes for shave, shower, brush teeth... 26.75 hours

    You mention time zone, which I guess means you went to bed in one time zone and woke up in a different one. I don't know how to calculate that. I also don't know how long you take for bathroom breaks, so I won't estimate that.

    Wow, more than a full day to perform maintenance! 26.75 hours! And they said it would be around 8 hours. What rotten communication!

    No, the point is not the communication. They did communicate. They are not required to calculate your personal time in coming up with an estimate. But in a way it's about communication: communicating honestly.

    If any of my calculations are off by a small amount, be sure to nit-pick that.


    r/theydidthemath (ish)
  • Bucky_13
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    Maxx7410 wrote: »
    The hamsters where tired and they needed to rest some time.

    Once you realize how difficult it is to run servers on hamster power, you understand why this maintenance is needed.

    Source:
    https://youtu.be/01iDVrKmi9w
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