Warning: new hair gives unexpected dye job as well.

fred4

Can't find the hair style. How many crown gems is it?

Sylvermynx

Right now, it's a drop from a crate IIRC.

Aelsioln

fred4 wrote: »

Can't find the hair style. How many crown gems is it?

16, I think. Should be in the Superior category.

Sylvermynx

Oh, is it actually gems? Hmm. I thought I only saw it in the crate details.

heaven13

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Oh, is it actually gems? Hmm. I thought I only saw it in the crate details.

It's not gem exclusive, if that's what you mean but if you have gems you can purchase it outright, rather than buying a crate.

Nairinhe

Lack of devs reaction on this (considering that it's a crown store item) makes me think that there won't be a fix =(

Sylvermynx

heaven13 wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Oh, is it actually gems? Hmm. I thought I only saw it in the crate details.

It's not gem exclusive, if that's what you mean but if you have gems you can purchase it outright, rather than buying a crate.

Huh. Don't know how I missed it in the store, I looked through all the crown crate sections after looking at the crate details. Of course, I never have any gems to speak of any more, AND the only character I wanted it for has white hair, so.... Bummer. Not interested in him changing hair color.... since his "last name" is Silverhair....

heaven13

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

@valkyrie93 you made it look really nice but I agree, there should be consistency between color on all styles. Changing your style shouldn't mean you suddenly get a dye job. Some other hairs do this as well, though this one probably takes the cake.

Exactly, but it doesn't support the OP's argument.

Other hairstyles like "By Kyne, It's Humid" are darker by default.

I think players should do a little less blaming and a little more reality checking ... because it's reasonable to expect not all hairstyles will have the exact same hue.

By Kyne is also darker (although not quite as dark), but; a) it's a free hairstyle you can choose in char creation, if you want that look, so you know what you're getting and b) it's probably supposed to indicate damp hair, as it's humid.

It's not a Crown store-only hairstyle, with no indication in the description that it will be darker than all other hairstyles, even damp ones.

You can see Seafarer's looks darker than your current hair colour in the preview, but the uninitiated may assume that won't be an accurate indication of what it will look like in-game.

By Kyne (preview) on my char, for comparison:

The images support my argument even more ... neither "By Kyne, It's Humid" nor the new Seafarer's Crowning Trim are even remotely the same as Windblown Barbaric or Left-Parted Cropped. Bottom Line: Hairstyles are not all going to have the same hue.

Not to mention every player has the option to preview the hairstyle in the crown store before buying.

I agree that you're pointing out some factual information based on hair in game but I wouldn't say that those facts support any argument that excuses that level of inconsistency.

While the Barbaric hair is a bit too light, this is due to the fact that it has less highlights/shadows painted in the details of the strands but the base shade is the same. By Kyne it's Humid is darker than the others and the shade changes some; it's similar-ish, but could probably be tweaked to be more consistent.

By contrast, the new hair is a COMPLETELY different shade. It's not even in the same family anymore. We're not talking a slight shift, this is a complete dye job. We go Blonde-->Blonde-->Strawberry Blonde-->Medium Brown.

If I choose a white haired character or a blonde character or whatever other hair color there is, it should be reasonable that all hairs return a similar shade. It doesn't have to be so exact that an eyedropper in an image editor will return the same exact hue but my blonde character should stay blonde.

Technica

I agree that some hair colours might look darker/lighter with different styles equipped and they;re usually perfectly fine like that, but... My character is blonde, and this hair style makes her a brunette

dcam86b14_ESO

My toon is a blonde not a brunette. This is immersion breaking.

Mix

I thought it was set to be grey in colour. My Argonian has "red" horns aka "red" hair colour but this hair style is dark grey on her.

Ostacia

Several of us have noticed a strange widening of the face, primarily across the cheekbones, with this hairstyle as well. Glad it was only 16 gems because it looks kinda awful on my characters with the facial distortion.

SydneyGrey

I was extremely disappointed as well. It makes white hair a dark grey, and turns blonde/red hair into brown. I submitted a bug report on it, but I hope they realize that this matters to a lot of people and I hope they won't ignore it.

whitecrow

I could grow to like it I guess, and consider it a hair color change for as long as I want it, it's just odd.

Red_Feather

I am convinced the hair has no specular lighting.

Like perhaps the beads and buckles were so shiny that the specular map was reduced and it made the hair itself have no specular lighting as a result.

huntgod_ESO

Arunei wrote: »

kind_hero wrote: »

There is also a problem with the new hats... they make your char bald! (tried on female breton).

Most hats/hoods do that actually, depending on what hairstyle you're using, and it's ridiculous that it happens. Most of the hairstyles will vanish, a few will get changed to a short-hair style.

All the hats I have, and I have many, either swap in a short hair texture so you have a hairline or give you a ponytail. This is the only one I've seen that makes you bald.

Gaggin

Wow credit to zos for the immersion. As a natural blonde i can confirm my gets quite a bit darker in hairstyles like these, the oils change it drastically.

ArchangelIsraphel

This is supremely annoying as I was hoping to wear it on several light-haired characters =.=; I mean, the other braided hairstyles on the character creator do not do this, why should this one?? >_>

By Kyne it's Humid is darker than the others and the shade changes some; it's similar-ish, but could probably be tweaked to be more consistent.

I really, really DO NOT want By Kyne it's Humid changed though. The slightly darker shade of red it turns on my red-haired character is perfect for him. While I support this new hairstyle getting a few changes, I don't think old hair styles should be touched at all because this could destroy characters for people. If anything, they should offer two versions of By Kyne if people REALLY want this- one darker, one lighter. But I rarely see people use the style so I don't think it should be altered at all.

TairenSoul

I hope the devs see this as something to be fixed. My toon had grey hair. That's what I wanted. Now she has black hair. I'd really like to use this style and keep my grey hair. Looks like to do this I will have to spend crowns to go in and change the original hair to white to get grey. If they do "fix" it, I'll have to spend more to go in and put it back. I just want my grey hair and this style without having to spend 2000 crowns. Please fix!

Fawn4287

This game has the issues it does and a thread about colour has 2k views..... this is why things barely improve, the forums are filled With casual roleplayers and questers blowing up about the hair colour on a hairstyle whilst the game struggles to stay at 30fps in cyro.........People are really that worked up over a stain on the carpet in a burning house.

Aisleyne

Fawn4287 wrote: »

This game has the issues it does and a thread about colour has 2k views..... this is why things barely improve, the forums are filled With casual roleplayers and questers blowing up about the hair colour on a hairstyle whilst the game struggles to stay at 30fps in cyro.........People are really that worked up over a stain on the carpet in a burning house.

Caring about one thing, does not preclude caring about others. People that viewed this thread 2k times may have viewed performance threads 10k times. If people have concerns about multiple issues, they should not feel attacked for presenting those issues to ZOS. Reporting one issue doesn't lessen the significance of others.

valkyrie93

Fawn4287 wrote: »

This game has the issues it does and a thread about colour has 2k views..... this is why things barely improve, the forums are filled With casual roleplayers and questers blowing up about the hair colour on a hairstyle whilst the game struggles to stay at 30fps in cyro.........People are really that worked up over a stain on the carpet in a burning house.

Sorry but what an idiotic thing to say lol, caring about your chars appearance does not make you a casual RPer, I’ve spent 4K hours in this game both pvp and pve, it’s not exactly strange that I care about cosmetics at least a bit especially when half of the rewards in this game are cosmetic, i.e skins, mounts, costumes, titles in a way. Completely normal imo

thorwyn

It's about time they introduce hair dying. This is such a simple feature, every other MMO out there has it. It is easier to change your complete build than dye your hair.

heaven13

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

This is supremely annoying as I was hoping to wear it on several light-haired characters =.=; I mean, the other braided hairstyles on the character creator do not do this, why should this one?? >_>

By Kyne it's Humid is darker than the others and the shade changes some; it's similar-ish, but could probably be tweaked to be more consistent.

I really, really DO NOT want By Kyne it's Humid changed though. The slightly darker shade of red it turns on my red-haired character is perfect for him. While I support this new hairstyle getting a few changes, I don't think old hair styles should be touched at all because this could destroy characters for people. If anything, they should offer two versions of By Kyne if people REALLY want this- one darker, one lighter. But I rarely see people use the style so I don't think it should be altered at all.

Yeah, I agree it's too late now to fix it. It's been like that since release. And at least By Kyne hairstyle and those like it support the darkening effect that would happen with certain styling as opposed to the complete color change of the Seafarer hair.

markulrich1966

tried it on several toons. Red/brown haired ones look different but ok, but the light white/grey hair of high-elfs results in a very ugly medium to dark grey.

It is a pity, as the hair style looks nice despite not being very detailed (the charms are, but the hair looks like dreadlocks).

For my dark elves, orc and imperial I will keep it for now, for high-elves unusable (all women).

Nemesis7884

I wish it didnt have a skull in the back but a more neutral decoration...looks a bit cheap and less universally appealing

jircris11

valkyrie93 wrote: »

Just wondering if you tested this out on white-haired characters, zos.... i really didn't want my char to have grey hair suddenly. Quite disappointed that the first long hairstyle in a while does this to my chars hair:


just why?
left is before, btw. and how it is with most if not all hairstyles.

EDIT nvm i made it work anyway

While I agree, I will admit she does not look horrid with it.

wild_kmacdb16_ESO

Following the same trend, my character with dark gray hair has their hair turn pitch black

Banana

Fawn4287 wrote: »

This game has the issues it does and a thread about colour has 2k views..... this is why things barely improve, the forums are filled With casual roleplayers and questers blowing up about the hair colour on a hairstyle whilst the game struggles to stay at 30fps in cyro.........People are really that worked up over a stain on the carpet in a burning house.

Yes but they can't fix the important stuff. Fashion is the real endgame

LaerothKeykalyn

High Elf