New class discussion

GusTheWizard

So every two years we get a new class and I’m sure now is around the time they start work on it.

Personally what I would like to see is an elementalist using wind, water and earth. Earth would obviously be the tanking line, wind would be the healing line And water would be the dps line, for the Stam morphs you could do like watery weapons, like a water mace or something.

Let me know what you’d like to see as a class and how it’d work.

zvavi

I would like current classes to work properly tyvm.

Sylvermynx

I'm not particularly interested in seeing another new class.

PrimusNephilim

ZOS can't even get the sound to work and you want to add another class? Yes it would be cool but ZOS can't handle what they've got right now

Alidel

GusTheWizard wrote: »

Personally what I would like to see is an elementalist using wind, water and earth. Earth would obviously be the tanking line, wind would be the healing line And water would be the dps line, for the Stam morphs you could do like watery weapons, like a water mace or something.

Let me know what you’d like to see as a class and how it’d work.

Earth is already covered by dragonknight, wind by sorcerer (although poorly) and water (in form of ice) by warden.

GusTheWizard

Alidel wrote: »

Earth is already covered by dragonknight, wind by sorcerer (although poorly) and water (in form of ice) by warden.

Sorcerer has lightning so does Necromancer, warden has ice so does Necromancer, Dk has fire so does Necromancer and Templar, your point is invalid.

jlmurra2

I still want the planned Battlemage class: https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Battlemage#Notes

Destruction for dps, Alteration for tanking/support, and Mysticism for healing/support still seem like good skill lines for it.

Alidel

GusTheWizard wrote: »

Alidel wrote: »

Earth is already covered by dragonknight, wind by sorcerer (although poorly) and water (in form of ice) by warden.

Sorcerer has lightning so does Necromancer, warden has ice so does Necromancer, Dk has fire so does Necromancer and Templar, your point is invalid.

I mean, necro has skills that does elemental damage, while classes I pointed out has these specific elements rooted down as part of their power fantasy. I'm not criticizing your idea, just pointing out that pure elementalist with such power fantasy may be redundant, or make feel redundant other classes.

GusTheWizard

Alidel wrote: »

I mean, necro has skills that does elemental damage, while classes I pointed out has these specific elements rooted down as part of their power fantasy. I'm not criticizing your idea, just pointing out that pure elementalist with such power fantasy may be redundant, or make feel redundant other classes.

Well if that’s what you’re saying water is definitely not a power fantasy of warden not even close,
And sorcerer l has one wind skill I don’t think this new class would feel like a sorcerer with healing wind skills, also let’s not forget warden has Arctic wind under their ice skill line so does warden feel like a sorcerer at all to you? For dk as well they might have three skills that actually look like earth, most of them look like fire if I’m honest.

Ratzkifal

GusTheWizard wrote: »

Alidel wrote: »

Earth is already covered by dragonknight, wind by sorcerer (although poorly) and water (in form of ice) by warden.

Sorcerer has lightning so does Necromancer, warden has ice so does Necromancer, Dk has fire so does Necromancer and Templar, your point is invalid.

Stamsorc has wind. Lightning form has a stamina morph called hurricane and it looks more like a windy attack than a lightning attack.

I don't like your idea for a class at all.

Out of the original Morrowind classes Monk and Spellblade should rather be covered by weapon choices and there are certainly viability issues with Witchhunter and Battlemage due to the lack of hybrid builds. But the only classes out of those we are lacking are those that specialize in speech and related skills, which is understandable because how are you supposed to tackle that?

Although I can see how they could make a martial arts focused monk and have it be the only class that unarmed is viable on without introducing another "weapon".

Other than that, there would have to be completely new classes, like a dwemer tinkerer (not another pet class please!), to be invented for this. And trying to create new classes from scratch like that can be tricky because they have to fit seemlessly into the universe. Water magic to deal damage isn't something I can see that fits. It's better to stick to the elements of the destruction school or make creative use of alteration as in Earth magic.

Stealthk80

Queue incoming lawsuit from Blizzard for copyright infringement of Shaman. Whilst we're at it, water should be healing to truly copy it across

kathandira

I think the only damage type that isn't already majorly focused on by any class is Oblivion Damage.

Perhaps a new Class and Race could work for that. A Daedric Race, and an Oblivion Damage class.

Tommy_The_Gun

New class = heavy nerfs to current class that has similar theme.
No, thanks.

Scion_of_Yggdrasil

We need a hybrid class (spellsword, battlemage, etc.). They could specialize in conjuration magic (bound weapons, specifically), and oblivion dmg.

To compliment the new class, its time for a new weapon/skill line! Spellbooks/scrolls?

Mavi

I want a real assassin class, nightblades right now (exceptions exist, but that's restrict to some really good players) are some sort of priests that pray for their cloack to work and rely on lag to score some kills.

Chaos2088

I do think we are going to get new classes, but I doubt we will get another very soon.

Warden was meant to come out (kinda) with the base game at launch and nerco as been on the cards since then as well.

I bets there is some beta classes being muched about with, but i think they will want to do other stuff before adding another.

butterrum222

How about instead of a new class we try a new race. Goblin

Lumenn

These discussions always start off benign then eventually turn back into that's not a class, it's a skill, it's not lore, it doesn't fit, we have that already yadda yadda yadda. And if we do get a class it's totally different(ice mage? Master of undead? Hmm) I STILL think a monk would be good but /shrug.

Gilvoth

as long as has high sneak speeds and invisibility caster all i want
if has those then im all in.

idk

First, it is an assumption that Zos has plans to add a new class every two years just because they have done it twice in the past four years. More importantly, if Zos actually does plan to keep the pace of a new class every other year they would have already started working on the next class as it would make sense to actually plan that out. Essentially they would have already started framing several classes. Heck, Zos probably knows where we are going in 2022.

Nemesis7884

jlmurra2 wrote: »

I still want the planned Battlemage class: https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Battlemage#Notes

Destruction for dps, Alteration for tanking/support, and Mysticism for healing/support still seem like good skill lines for it.

id love a class that has a 1h + spell skill line and works well as a hybrid

Eifleber

Sylvermynx wrote: »

I'm not particularly interested in seeing another new class.

Agreed.

Especially with all classes doing all roles and all stuff gets out of balance very quickly.

No need to complicate things even further by adding yet another class that ALSO has to be able to do stam dd mag dd tanking & healing.

If you want more variety add more morphs to existing class skills for example (why only 2, a feline companion morph fpr wardens or more frost morphs would be quite popular).

bluebird

ZOS should either add a new Class, or a new Weapon, or a new Guild skill line.
Because the cycle of buffing/nerfing the same abilities over and over again isn't exactly exciting.
WoW and GW2, ESO's closest competitors regularly add new class abilities and interactions.

Whatever they do add, it should be 1) Lore-friendly, 2) Distinct from existing classes and 3) Interesting.
The 'interesting' part is subjective, but here are some of my suggestions.

THE DWEMERMANCER - class (name subject to change )
This could be a skill line too, not just a class itself. It would be a Dwemer researcher/tinkerer person which is possible in ESO and would fulfil the 'engineer' archetype from other games (just as Warden was a 'druid/hunter' archetype addition). Some skill ideas include:

• Dwemervamidium: based on the memento of the same name, this would be your class-specific shield. Manifesting a mechanical body-armor and doing general class-shield-type things (like Obsidian Shield, Bone Armor, Frost Cloak, etc).
• Steam Blast: frontal Cone AoE spammable for damage
• Focus Lens: laser beam attack, could be single target or pierce everything in a line.
• Dwemer Sphere: Launch a Dwemer Sphere in a straight line, knocking down the first target hit
• March of Spiders: Command your squad of Dwemer Spiders to use their claws to tunnel up and create uneven ground. Ground-targeted AoE damage over time with a snare or offbalance component. If your Dwemer Sphere hits targets in your March of Spiders, your constructs will short-circuit, stunning everything in the area.
• Centurion: Ultimate, summons a Dwemer Centurion that starts spinning after 3 seconds, knocking back everything in the area for 5 seconds. (Imagine the possibilites in PvP!!! During the 3 seconds arming phase, it can be CC-ed or pull-chained away, but afterwards it becomes immune.)

THE SPELLFOCUS - weapon
Magicka specs are really boring with only staves, so finally we could use a different Magicka weapon! It would be classified as a 'two-hander' in terms of stats and set bonuses, but you'd have a magical focus floating next to you, and you'd use your free hands to cast spells. Alternatively, it could be a guild skill line too.

• Light Attack: would use the Force Pulse visuals, you'd shoot an elemental blast from your hand. Enchantments on the focus affect the damage and visuals of the LA (Fire damage Glyph will make it a fireblast, etc).
• Heavy Attack: would use the Vampire Drain visual, casting with two hands
• Combust: single target spammable, you make your target erupt with Magicka dealing damage to them, and splashing minor damage to enemies around it too.
• Echo of Magicka: enemies in the ground AoE take damage over time, with a different morph that regens resources for you instead
• Incantation: You raise both hands and cast a cone of magic. AoE spammable, but channelled like Jabs.
• Spellwave: Ult, release a wide wave of magic that travels froward, dealing minor damage while applying a random status effect to each (burning, concussed, chilled), and leaving a powerful DoT on your targets for major damage

THE ELDER SCHOLAR- guild skill line
We come across a group of Moth Priests who study the Elder Scrolls, and join their order to learn some long-forgotten techniques. We only get brief glimpses of the parts they deem safe, but we learn more about the prophecies in the scrolls.

• Prophecy of Resurrection: Foretell Mannimarco's return, resurrecting your allies (like Reanimate from Necro).
• Prophecy of Disappearance: Foretell the Dwemer's disappearance (a bit late ), causing you to phase out of existence and be immune to damage.
• Prophecy of Destruction: Foretell Vvardenfell's destruction, opening a rift in the sky to rain down rocks and magma on the target area.
• Prophecy of Portals: Foretell Mehrunes Dagon's invasion, creating an Oblivion Gate at the target area and at your location. Allies near the Gates can use the Synergy to teleport to the other gate (like Frozen Gate from Warden).
• Prophecy of Dragons: Foretell the rise of Dragons, invoking the shout of Alduin which quickly spreads from your location to cover a circular area around you then causes all enemies caught in the thuum to tremble in fear.

VDoom1

I think ESO needs to be careful. Some games have way to many classes, some have way to few. ESO is at the moment in a good place where we don't have to many classes or to few. The ones we have are all unique in their own way.

However I do agree that there is a lot of potential for new classes. Some druid nature class, some warrior berserk class or some class for the elements. There are a lot of good ideas for potential new classes.

Athyrium93

I'd much rather see a new weapon skill line than a new class, the classes are pretty diverse but the weapons just seem a bit stale, an unarmed skill line would be the coolest in my opinion, but a spell sword would also be awesome (a melee magicka weapon) just something new would be great. I appreciate the guild and world skill lines, but they don't really beg to be built around for the most part.

An unarmed or hand to hand combat line could use brass knuckles or something like that to not lose the weapon slots but still give the look and feel of being unarmed.

A spell sword type could have the weapon be an Athame and the skills could all be rituals or something, that way it would just be a new weapon type instead of trying to find a way to differentiate between stam and mag melee weapons.

Tandor

Just give me a playable dwarf please, the classes are fine as is.

kaisernick

id love a bard skill ine but not a class.

Luke_Flamesword

New skill lines are better than new classess and are easier to balance. I think that couple more skill lines should bring more diversity for classess that we already have and this is what I think is more needed than just another class.

Twilanthe

Honestly... and this is going to be a really unpopular opinion but I don't care...

Instead of a new class, I would love to see an entire overhaul of the class system. Most skills can still exist, but remove classes entirely. Instead create skill lines more like what is familiar in TES games. Keep the skill lines for the weapons and add some new ones (cross bows, spears, and unarmed). Then convert all class abilities into the various schools of magic. Alteration, conjuration, illusion, etc.

Let us truly be/do whatever by training in specific skills. Give me my sword in one hand and spell in the other. The skills can even keep the magicka/stamina morphs.

That said, I also recognize that this is an MMO, that would likely never happen because it would never work and trying to balance it would be an impossible nightmare. But I can dream.

Edit: but if I had to pick a new class, I'd like to see unarmed fighting added as a skill line at least. And maybe some kind of monk-like class.

Alidel

Tandor wrote: »

Just give me a playable dwarf please, the classes are fine as is.

Please no. Dwemer as well as akaviri races shouldn't be playable in my opinion. Maormer on the other hand can be easily implemented and they are already have a huge presence in game.

Ragnarock41

zvavi wrote: »

I would like current classes to work properly tyvm.

Weeeeell, good luck with that.