Remove Crown Crates

slipciok

Please removed Crown Crates. This things stink like bad f2p game. ESO have game store, paid dlc, paid chapters.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Will never happen. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

madarame_77

The contents of the crates are purely cosmetic and in no way affect gameplay or force you to buy them like in f2p games.

Old_Foggy

If you don't want them that's fine, don't buy them, but please let those that want to buy them do so.

idk

Actually, the F2P game would add things are can make a character stronger than what they can obtain in game.

Zos will not remove the crates until and unless they are mandated to by law in enough nations to make it not so lucrative. It is a huge revenue source.

Iluvrien

The day they do this, is the day that they are forced to by legislation.

There is no other consideration either artistic, moral or philanthropic that will induce them to do so.

ESO has proved time and again that people will argue for the chance to possibly receive a reskin at inflated costs. Why on earth would ZOS turn that kind of money down unless they were forced.

The playerbase (collectively, not individually) did this to itself.

CyberSkooma

Crates keep this game wealthy financially. Not sure why you'd even make this post like it hasn't been done one-thousand times before.

VaranisArano

I don't like them, but aside from encouraging law makers to look at regulatory options, our only option is to not buy them.

Starlock

madarame_77 wrote: »

The contents of the crates are purely cosmetic and in no way affect gameplay...

Yes, they do.

Cosmetics are absolutely part of gameplay... especially for players who focus on story, lore, socializing, and character building.

Destai

Starlock wrote: »

madarame_77 wrote: »

The contents of the crates are purely cosmetic and in no way affect gameplay...

Yes, they do.

Cosmetics are absolutely part of gameplay... especially for players who focus on story, lore, socializing, and character building.

This. I love how people act like these are so innocent while completely ignoring the subtle and not-so-subtle manipulation that goes into getting people to purchase these.

Don't buy them. Stop the degradation of gaming experiences. Buy content.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

I like the option of having the Crown Crates. You don't have to partake if you don't want. It's my $$. I can choose to spend or not spend it as I like.

M_Volsung

NoodleESO

I agree with OP, a quality game not only sells itself, but doesn't have to use a gambling system to monetize itself.

The unique content in the boxes should stay, the gambling needs to go.

BisDasBlutGefriert

Why spend money on THEIR crates? They aren't spending time or YOUR money on your bugs,dsyncs, lag or performance!

Ri_Khan

If ZOS has taught me one thing, it's that companies incorporating gambling into their games, as they have in ESO, don't deserve my money. If they have to resort to the tactics of exploiting low-hanging fruit with the excuse of keeping the lights on, the game clearly isn't good enough on it's own merits to continue supporting.

Starlock

Ri_Khan wrote: »

If ZOS has taught me one thing, it's that companies incorporating gambling into their games, as they have in ESO, don't deserve my money. If they have to resort to the tactics of exploiting low-hanging fruit with the excuse of keeping the lights on, the game clearly isn't good enough on it's own merits to continue supporting.

It does feel this way sometimes, but I think we also need to be aware of some trends in the gaming industry. It's not about keeping the lights on. Companies who engage in unscrupulous monetization are raking in a ton of profit. What this is about is making as much profit as possible and constantly making more and more money. That doesn't mean the game isn't good, but it does mean the game is more about playing you than you playing it. Which then makes the game worse than it would otherwise be, granted...

relentless_turnip

😂😂😂

I've never seen a pig fly before...

Glurin

Crown crates aren't that bad. The radiant apex and gem exclusive stuff is crossing the line a bit, but otherwise they're fine IMO. If you don't like them, don't buy them.

I've seen far more exploitative implementations than what we have here. The kind where they shove pay to win *** inside their loot crates as the only means of progression. That crap richly deserves every single ounce of criticism and scrutiny directed at it.

kargen27

Ignore crown crates!

Except buy some every six months when you up your + subscription. That is what keeps me happy.

Katahdin

Wish they would. I would much rather buy what I want directly from the crown store than rng gamble crates.

Thankfully the items in the crates for the last year or so have been so bad/ugly I have not been motivated to buy any really.

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Stx

As someone who is used to games where you earn mounts and other cosmetics in game, these crown crates are disgusting.

I have only bought 15 one time with leftover sub crowns, and of course, got no mount.

I will not be buying them again.

TheShadowScout

idk wrote: »

Zos will not remove the crates until and unless they are mandated to by law in enough nations to make it not so lucrative.

^This!^

[snip] as long as crown crates make them extra profit over what they could get from direct sales as some players gamble for the super-duper nifty rare stuff, AND there is no law against them that makes them worry about getting sued or taxed out of their profit... they will keep doing crown crates.

And its each persons choice if whatever is in there is worth playing the crown crate roulette to them, or not.
For many, it will not be worth it.
For some, it will.
And some... would want to get the goodies, but are unwilling/unable to spend the money. Then its the same as with any such occasion where one wants something beyond their means... some work to someday get it by espanding their means, and others whine how it ought to be more affordable. And sometimes the sales are so bad that the powers that be actually make something more affordable, usually on a "limited discount" trial basis, but... eventually, after enough time has gone by, they might permanently lower a price. But... only when they don't make the expected profit otherwise, and when I look at what goes in the game, how many people have some cool crown crate mount... I reckon the crates make ZOS more then enough profit to keep them going until and unless legislation changes in a big enough way.

So.
That's it.
And we have to deal with it.

Stx wrote: »

As someone who is used to games where you earn mounts and other cosmetics in game, these crown crates are disgusting.

I know what you mean.
And has ESO stayed "subscription only", I reckon we would have seen a LOT of what pops up in those crates as in-game rewards for quest completions, achievements, etc. Sadly... that's now how it went.

Me, I am happy enough that we get at least -some- stuff as in-game reward these days, I was overjoyed at seeing that happen with Elsweyr, and wish they would refit it to older content as well... (at the very least give out all the "disguise" visuals as -costume- at the end of their respective questings, and remove the disguise items... think of how that could help inventory issues!)
Oh, well. maybe someday that might actually do that? One can hope...

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Anotherone773

another one of these threads? We can get rid of crown crates...how do you feel about subscription fees?

thorwyn

I really wonder how an entire generation managed to grow up and survive between Kinder Surprise and Magic: The Gathering booster packs.

gatekeeper13

And how are they going to milk players without them?

Unfadingsilence

slipciok wrote: »

Please removed Crown Crates. This things stink like bad f2p game. ESO have game store, paid dlc, paid chapters.

I just spent another $500 on crates before the next season comes out ✌

Mayrael

There is a difference between spending money on virtual things, and spending money to gamble for virtual things.

I gladly buy stuff from store, but only the one I can buy directly. If I want something I'm buying it, I won't pay for a chance to have some item. Put the things from crates directly into a store and I will buy it immediately, otherwise, no thank you, I prefer to buy another game for the money spent.

NupidStoob

Good thread OP.

Eifleber

There's always a few rich people that don' t care for a few 1000 euro/dollar.

It wouldn' t surprise me if crown crates make up a very substantial part of ZOS' income.
Too bad they don' t use it to polish the game a bit.
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ZaroktheImmortal

NoodleESO wrote: »

I agree with OP, a quality game not only sells itself, but doesn't have to use a gambling system to monetize itself.

The unique content in the boxes should stay, the gambling needs to go.

Well to be fair this is an MMO that doesn't force people to subscribe so they have to find other ways to make money. While there are people who subscribe for reasons like craft bag it does need a flow of money somehow. And crown crates don't really give you much of anything special and even the stuff it does have a lot of it is rare chance of getting.

dhboy123

If I had a pound for every time I saw this thread...

I might be able to afford a crown crate.