Harrowstorms are still extremely super slow and unrewarding

notyuu

So you want to do harrowstorms?

well lad, I regret to inform you that these great and mighty storms have a few issues
1: you can be waiting for upwards of an hour at a ritual site and not even see a cloud in the sky, let alone a full on storm
2: there's no way to tell where the storm is currently active, if one is even active at all, so ya might as well be riding around all day and not find a damn thing
3: there's no way to easily reach most of the storms, so even if ya see one in the distance it might as well be dead by the time ya reach it
4: and even if ya overcome all that ya what do you get for yer troubles? a fist full of ash and some random junk

so how can this be fixed? easily!

1:put the storms on a timer and remove the spawn limit..i.e. have it so that in theory all the storms could be up at once
2: make the map marker glow or something when a storm is active there...maybe a bat icon ontop of it?
3: this one can't really be fixed..it's just poor wayshrine placement
4: make the storms drop good stuff.

ya lot agree?

iris56

Harrowstorms are extremely annoying to find which one is up. I predict they're completely dead in two months.

ZOS_GinaBruno

As Finn mentioned the other day in this post, we are working on addressing some of the pain points with Harrowstorms for a future patch.

Gythral

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As Finn mentioned the other day in this post, we are working on addressing some of the pain points with Harrowstorms for a future patch.

@ZOS_GinaBruno what does 'pain point' mean when the simple fact is they are not working at all!

Veinblood1965

Gythral wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As Finn mentioned the other day in this post, we are working on addressing some of the pain points with Harrowstorms for a future patch.

@ZOS_GinaBruno what does 'pain point' mean when the simple fact is they are not working at all!

That is called brainstorming for ideas in a meeting. Without a meeting how can you know what your programmers need to change?

Czeri

Dwarf's Bane has been stuck mid-spawn for hours now on the European server, blocking other Greymoor harrowstorms...

TemplarHealz

Funny you say that. I have yet to see a harrowstorm in action. I sit and wait for 5-10 minutes, then move on, never to see them again. For me, this has been a very lackluster expansion.

MasterSpatula

notyuu wrote: »

So you want to do harrowstorms?

[snip]
3: there's no way to easily reach most of the storms, so even if ya see one in the distance it might as well be dead by the time ya reach it
[snippity snip]

3: this one can't really be fixed..it's just poor wayshrine placement

When Dragonhold came out, I really thought they'd learned their lesson from the terrible wayshrine placement in Elsweyr. Boy, was I naive. Greymoor wayshrine placement is really atrocious, especially considering that you pretty much have to follow the windy roads not to get blocked by some of the terrain.

kargen27

TemplarHealz wrote: »

Funny you say that. I have yet to see a harrowstorm in action. I sit and wait for 5-10 minutes, then move on, never to see them again. For me, this has been a very lackluster expansion.

They spawn random instead of in a fixed pattern. This means the same one can spawn several times in a row before others spawn. Last night the zone (PCNA) was working well together to spot a spawned harrowstorm.
Two of them have long ride times. I admit my mounts are all fully leveled so even reaching those two is easy enough. I can see where it might be a problem for new players/characters.
I think the big problem is most players didn't know the first night that spawns were random so they sat at one storm assuming it would soon spawn.

Moloch1514

I'd love some insight as to why @ZOS_Finn and his team (if there is one) thought this design was a good idea. Probably thought it would be good for laughs with the bros at the office.

Varana

Someone writing down the actual reasons for wayshrine placing (not some PR stuff designed to sound nice, and not someone from Lore) would be very interesting indeed. Including reasons like "we place some of them as inconveniently as possible because we want players to run around for a lot of time so the game looks populated".

asuitandtyb14_ESO

Varana wrote: »

Someone writing down the actual reasons for wayshrine placing (not some PR stuff designed to sound nice, and not someone from Lore) would be very interesting indeed. Including reasons like "we place some of them as inconveniently as possible because we want players to run around for a lot of time so the game looks populated".

Well that failed, because Greymoor overland is already dead.

Eifleber

You can do 3 for the daily though (a bit like the Summerset geysers) but the time investment/reward ratio is very bad. After doing them all at least once for the Zone guide completion I never did once again unless I happened to stumble on one.

The biggest difference between HS and Geysers is that geysers usually are just a very short ride away from wayshrines. I've had it a lot that a HS was called in zone chat but was already finished by the time I got there, very frustrating.

dhboy123

asuitandtyb14_ESO wrote: »

Varana wrote: »

Someone writing down the actual reasons for wayshrine placing (not some PR stuff designed to sound nice, and not someone from Lore) would be very interesting indeed. Including reasons like "we place some of them as inconveniently as possible because we want players to run around for a lot of time so the game looks populated".

Well that failed, because Greymoor overland is already dead.

100%

Elseweyr and Summerset are busier than greymoor already.

FlopsyPrince

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As Finn mentioned the other day in this post, we are working on addressing some of the pain points with Harrowstorms for a future patch.

One of the biggest pain points is that travel to and between them is a major pain. No wayshrines near the ones I have seen.

Probably too many of them too if they do 1 at a time as with other similar areas elsewhere in the game.

AgaTheGreat

The Harrowstorm wait is way too long! This wait time alone discourages me from doing any quests related to this thing. It's fine when you happen upon an active one but trying to find one that's going to be active next? No. Big fat no.

Destai

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As Finn mentioned the other day in this post, we are working on addressing some of the pain points with Harrowstorms for a future patch.

Can you or @ZOS_Finn elaborate on what a pain point is in your eyes?

Nomadic_Atmoran

Destai wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As Finn mentioned the other day in this post, we are working on addressing some of the pain points with Harrowstorms for a future patch.

Can you or @ZOS_Finn elaborate on what a pain point is in your eyes?

Its corporate speak for "issues players are experiencing with the game."

morrowjen

notyuu wrote: »

So you want to do harrowstorms?

well lad, I regret to inform you that these great and mighty storms have a few issues
1: you can be waiting for upwards of an hour at a ritual site and not even see a cloud in the sky, let alone a full on storm
2: there's no way to tell where the storm is currently active, if one is even active at all, so ya might as well be riding around all day and not find a damn thing
3: there's no way to easily reach most of the storms, so even if ya see one in the distance it might as well be dead by the time ya reach it
4: and even if ya overcome all that ya what do you get for yer troubles? a fist full of ash and some random junk

so how can this be fixed? easily!

1:put the storms on a timer and remove the spawn limit..i.e. have it so that in theory all the storms could be up at once
2: make the map marker glow or something when a storm is active there...maybe a bat icon ontop of it?
3: this one can't really be fixed..it's just poor wayshrine placement
4: make the storms drop good stuff.

ya lot agree?

Same problems as dragons in Northern Elsweyr (although at least with Harrowstorms you don't need a lot of people) and the very reason I stopped bothering with dragons there. Southern Elsweyr dragon spawns are so much better and really were a fix to what was wrong with dragons in the North so it's surprising that Western Skyrim reverted to the issues that still plague Northern Elsweyr.

Samas_R_Counts

notyuu wrote: »

So you want to do harrowstorms?

4: and even if ya overcome all that ya what do you get for yer troubles? a fist full of ash and some random junk

HaHaHa
This one hasn't laughed that hard in all of his twelve lives. Top notch!
*Don't tell me how to live, I'm the Vestige!*

Eifleber

I did whatever I had to do to finish the storyline/zone and see what the exepansion brought and didn' t come back with my other characters (except for the skyshards). I' ll wait till the fix it and else I just stay away.

Today I noticed in my guild rosters that people there already aren't playing Greymoor anymore either.

Zenzuki

Probably because they're running around Tamriel finding antiquities maybe?