How would you rate the Greymoor Chapter out of 10 - with 10 being the highest?

Knowledge

Kadoin

1

I have been told I am a harsh critic...

volkeswagon

10

Cause a 1 would just be ignorant

Noxavian

3

volkeswagon wrote: »

Cause a 1 would just be ignorant

Same would go for a 10.

This expansion is a drop in quality, objectively.

Both in what we got as skills for the year, story, even harrowstorms.

The only redeeming factor is the zone design.

MincVinyl

1

I pre-ordered the first day, because I figured I'll most likely keep playing since many old friends/players I know were still playing.

Wasn't allowed to port in to the dlc for a week after launch. Turns out some transactions failed for some preorders. Atleast I don't have to refund.

Three of the pvp guilds I have hung out in for 3-6 years went on hiatus from the game ~50 long term players. Greyhost is a joke, other cyrodil campaigns are dead, IC is empty 99% of the time, bgs are only solos against the same players I have been fighting with for 2+ years. No point in playing BGs/nocp anyways since without malacath I would be down 17%-25% damage compared to players who use it. Stormhaven duels get boring at a certain point, not to mention I still can't fathom why people still duel in that spot with the lag/fps drops.

volkeswagon

10

i haven't played it yet but giving it a one is saying it is unplayable with nothing good. A rating of 4 or 5 would be more believable. My rating of 10 is just to prove a point. It's like when Netflix allowed you to rate movies by star. People would give something 5 stars just because they liked it when a 5 star rating would imply classic oscar worthy.

Starlock

6

I’ll let you know in about 2 weeks?

FlopsyPrince

I would have to have access to rate it. Not out for the PS4 yet (as I write this).

Cadbury

volkeswagon wrote: »

i haven't played it yet but giving it a one is saying it is unplayable with nothing good. A rating of 4 or 5 would be more believable. My rating of 10 is just to prove a point. It's like when Netflix allowed you to rate movies by star. People would give something 5 stars just because they liked it when a 5 star rating would imply classic oscar worthy.

I remember the outrage when Netflix changed it's star rating. There were rumors that certain specials/movies were being bombarded with 1 star ratings because of the celebrities themselves, rather than the actual show. Good times

Bekkael

4

Starlock wrote: »

I’ll let you know in about 2 weeks?

Same for me.

Paradisius

5

Its very "meh" for me, the story was laughably predictable, antiquities was fun for a time but as I feared, there will be a content drought for it fairly quickly, and I dont have any expectation for them to add enough content to antiquities to draw people in continuously, the zones are pretty and Harrowstorms are fun (when you can find them) so its not all negatives, but its also very underwhelming.

Josira

1

It ticks all the boxes as to what it means to be a vampire.

mikejezz

4

I really like it, but if I didn't want the pre order mount I would have waited until it's free with eso next year.

You get a zone and a story quest. That's it. Oh, yeah, and antiquities.

Lintashi

4

Probably worst chapter so far. 1.No major performance fixes, more bugs than I have ever encountered so far, spanning through all activities, and going unfixed for weeks. Problems with access to the chapter itself. 2. vampire revamp caused most playstyles to cure vamps, people angry with maelstrom changes too. 3. main quest have too many similarities to main quest of previous chapters, big gender disbalance of npc's questgivers, and most quests are either copies from previous zones, or unmemorable. Also, no overall sense of 'Dark heart', when playing trough the chapter. 4. Wayshrines are not conveniently located, hunting harrowstorms is a pain, without good rewards. Even vampiric furniture, is almost the same as alinor one. Also, why devs tease people, saying, they added new furniture paintings, when in reality, we all know, what are the chances to get one (same as vvardenfell ones, that are nearly impossible to find)
Good things are landscape, it is gorgeous, quick fix of antiquity system, also, new models for furniture there. I also found 2 really good quests.

Gythral

3

needs debugging
and a lot of trimming the 'waste' -
10 doors/loadingf screens when none is enough
no wayshires any where near where you want to go (ever)
all maps are 10 twists and turns in the wrong direction to get 2m up the road

ArcVelarian

7

It's only a 7 for me because I like the story, setting, and zone design.

Joinovikova

6

great story good atmosfere, good pvp balance..

but tragic server performance which break game experience...

Czekoludek

3

+ Zone is nicely design, even when you see lack of new assets in Skyrim (Blackreach is still great)
+ Some of side quests are good (dwarven public dungeon one was great with it mysterious plot, refreshing to see something like this)
+ New trial is better then SS, even if it still lacks mechanics and last boss fight being too long (adding new mechanics to the fight and lowering boss HP would fix that)

- New trial gear is trash
- Main story is really bad, like a fanfic and not a proper ES content
- Lack of new, interesting characters (ok, Fenn was one good but it isn't enough)
- New system is just another grind (rewards are okay but process could be more interesting then mobile game)
- Performance, enough said
- Inbalance in PvP bigger then ever
- Content was rushed and clearly shows that ZOS development plan is too tight to give us good quality content. 4 times a year = drop in quality
- This would be 1 instead of 3 but i didn't buy physical collector edition. Statues that ppl got are definitely not what was advertised
- Some of the decisions shows that devs don't care about players feedback if it isn't sharing their agenda
- Overall pretty weak year after year of performance degradation and bad balance decisions
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Cireous

Way too soon to tell for me

ruengdet2515

5

I feel very short story.
I want story/side quest more than 100 hrs game play.

ValueDrift

6

I wouldn't consider it bad in a vacuum, but it is a large step down from the previous chapters in depth. Wouldn't surprise me to learn than it was made with half the development hours of earlier ones. The antiquities is a nice addition to the game.

kind_hero

7

Minimum ratings like 1 are not really helpful... I mean sure, everyone has a right to their opinion, however the chapter is not that awful, it is just you who are very upset on some issue, like the bugs and lag we encountered right after the release.

I gave it a 7 (but I feel like 6.5 is better) because having us revisit Skyrim, Solitude, Blackreach, Dragonbridge, and so on, really kicks the nostalgia, and the zones are beautiful.

The main story is poor, it is too similar with the previous chapter arc in several ways, and the plot twist becomes obvious too early. A similar vampire story, the story quest from Rivenspire is much better than the story quest of Greymoor. ESO had some great stories, I wonder how this got through.

The antiquities system is a great addition to the game for veteran players, because we have a reason to revisit the old content (besides the boring Dragonguard dailies), and it introduces a ton of new rewards. On the bad side, the system is somewhat grindy, but I need to consider that none forced me to rush to max level in a few days. The antiquities system is enjoyable and for casual players can be a great source of gold.

Furnishings got a great update with antiquities, it is now quite worthy to open chests and use treasure maps.

I dislike the amount of bugs and problems that came with this chapter.

Also, it is obvious that the developers do not care about feedback, despite using honeyed PR words to thank us for involvement and our continued interest. One of the most telling reactions came from a lead dev who used an unacceptable tone for a dev to dismiss the concerns of the community (read paying customers) regarding VMA weapons.

Even though I love the setting, I feel that so far, Greymoor is more of a missed opportunity than a success. They really have to come with a very strong DLC as a conclusion to this chapter to make things right.

karthrag_inak

6

Is certainly not Elsweyr, yes?

MerguezMan

I guess people rating something they have not experienced have the same kind of issue than people who preorder...

Higher-than-life expectations...

Everstorm

7

I kindda liked it but the boss fights for the storyline were even easier and more unremarkable than before.

Nova Sky

Lintashi wrote: »

Probably worst chapter so far. 1.No major performance fixes, more bugs than I have ever encountered so far, spanning through all activities, and going unfixed for weeks. Problems with access to the chapter itself. 2. vampire revamp caused most playstyles to cure vamps, people angry with maelstrom changes too. 3. main quest have too many similarities to main quest of previous chapters, big gender disbalance of npc's questgivers, and most quests are either copies from previous zones, or unmemorable. Also, no overall sense of 'Dark heart', when playing trough the chapter. 4. Wayshrines are not conveniently located, hunting harrowstorms is a pain, without good rewards. Even vampiric furniture, is almost the same as alinor one. Also, why devs tease people, saying, they added new furniture paintings, when in reality, we all know, what are the chances to get one (same as vvardenfell ones, that are nearly impossible to find)
Good things are landscape, it is gorgeous, quick fix of antiquity system, also, new models for furniture there. I also found 2 really good quests.

"Big gender disbalance of npc's questgivers ..."

Uh, what? Not enough guys? Not enough ladies?

Ohtimbar

6

I could list a number of specific complaints, but above all else the formula for chapters (and perhaps the game itself) feels quite stale at this point. I simply feel as though I am playing a reskinned version of Elsweyr, and I didn't even like Elsweyr.

Points for visual style, as always. Greymoor is easy on the eyes (especially Blackreach). Visuals aside, everything is too rote, too predictable, too unremittingly formulaic.

Lannharr

7

kind_hero wrote: »

Minimum ratings like 1 are not really helpful... I mean sure, everyone has a right to their opinion, however the chapter is not that awful, it is just you who are very upset on some issue, like the bugs and lag we encountered right after the release.

I gave it a 7 (but I feel like 6.5 is better) because having us revisit Skyrim, Solitude, Blackreach, Dragonbridge, and so on, really kicks the nostalgia, and the zones are beautiful.

The main story is poor, it is too similar with the previous chapter arc in several ways, and the plot twist becomes obvious too early. A similar vampire story, the story quest from Rivenspire is much better than the story quest of Greymoor. ESO had some great stories, I wonder how this got through.

The antiquities system is a great addition to the game for veteran players, because we have a reason to revisit the old content (besides the boring Dragonguard dailies), and it introduces a ton of new rewards. On the bad side, the system is somewhat grindy, but I need to consider that none forced me to rush to max level in a few days. The antiquities system is enjoyable and for casual players can be a great source of gold.

Furnishings got a great update with antiquities, it is now quite worthy to open chests and use treasure maps.

I dislike the amount of bugs and problems that came with this chapter.

Also, it is obvious that the developers do not care about feedback, despite using honeyed PR words to thank us for involvement and our continued interest. One of the most telling reactions came from a lead dev who used an unacceptable tone for a dev to dismiss the concerns of the community (read paying customers) regarding VMA weapons.

Even though I love the setting, I feel that so far, Greymoor is more of a missed opportunity than a success. They really have to come with a very strong DLC as a conclusion to this chapter to make things right.

Agreed. I think they should focus on bugs squashing and performance improvement instead of adding content for a while.

Sarannah

6

The zones, questing, and antiquity system are fantastic, though it never fully connected with me like Morrowind did. Harrowstorms, no character slots, vampire remake, and the launch issues lowered my rating. Especially harrowstorms since I do not like to wait two hours for one to spawn, and it shows they never looked at why dragons/anchors/geysers actually worked. Did them all once, and never again!

Lotus781

5

Paradisius wrote: »

Its very "meh" for me, the story was laughably predictable, antiquities was fun for a time but as I feared, there will be a content drought for it fairly quickly, and I dont have any expectation for them to add enough content to antiquities to draw people in continuously, the zones are pretty and Harrowstorms are fun (when you can find them) so its not all negatives, but its also very underwhelming.

What he said.

ImmortalCX

8

I paid 39 for the upgrade.

I've been doing antiquiries, for the past week, have 80% of the goodies.

It added about 40 hours of content.

The new zone is meh. Just feels empty from a quest perspective.

That said, antiquiries got me to explore many zones, do world bosses, public dungeons, etc. It is a welcome additiin. Without it, new zone would get 4 / 10.