Stadia

Marolf

So Google Statia will get cross-play AND cross-progression with PC? This is something I know consoles players have asked to get for ages. Seems like consoles are getting the short end of this stick with this announcement.

Marolf

I mean I get that it's different architecture/platform than the traditional consoles, but come on, this is sorta disheartening.

Mindcr0w

No one plays on Stadia so this is a non-issue.

CleymenZero

Mindcr0w wrote: »

No one plays on Stadia so this is a non-issue.

Wym? What if I want to add another delay on top of the usual lag?

Some might find it's not enough for your skills not to fire, they may want to not be able to move on top of that although we have that too...

Rich even suggested removing sprint or smth in the interview he gave to Kyle Dempster.

idk

First off, consoles would be at a great disadvantage if they had to compete with PC/Mac players due to the use of add-ons for starters. Zos is not going to take the add-ons away from us and I expect the reason consoles cannot have add-ons is not a Zos' choice alone.

That reason alone is a solid enough reason to not have cross-play. Cross-save is a different story

I think the reason Stadia is using the PC/Mac server is Zos is not interested in investing in more servers. It is likely much simpler as Stadia is not being as controlling as the MS and Sony.

Heck, you do not get a new update until 2 weeks after PC because of MS and Sony controls. That oversight Xbox and Sony demand is enough to prevent Zos from setting up cross-play with them.

idk

CleymenZero wrote: »

Mindcr0w wrote: »

No one plays on Stadia so this is a non-issue.

Wym? What if I want to add another delay on top of the usual lag?

Some might find it's not enough for your skills not to fire, they may want to not be able to move on top of that although we have that too...

Rich even suggested removing sprint or smth in the interview he gave to Kyle Dempster.

IDK.

In the interview of Rich transcribed at the link below Rich seems to clearly indicate they are not removing Sprint. Question 3 so you do not have to look far.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/529552/transcribed-interview-with-rich-lambert-27-05-2020/p1

Please link where you see Rich suggesting they are considering removing sprint?

Marolf

idk wrote: »

First off, consoles would be at a great disadvantage if they had to compete with PC/Mac players due to the use of add-ons for starters. Zos is not going to take the add-ons away from us and I expect the reason consoles cannot have add-ons is not a Zos' choice alone.

That reason alone is a solid enough reason to not have cross-play. Cross-save is a different story

I think the reason Stadia is using the PC/Mac server is Zos is not interested in investing in more servers. It is likely much simpler as Stadia is not being as controlling as the MS and Sony.

Heck, you do not get a new update until 2 weeks after PC because of MS and Sony controls. That oversight Xbox and Sony demand is enough to prevent Zos from setting up cross-play with them.

All valid points. As far as mods/add-ons go, they have been incorporated into console titles such as Fallout and Skyrim, but I don't have strong enough info to really debate why ESO doesn't.

CleymenZero

idk wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

Mindcr0w wrote: »

No one plays on Stadia so this is a non-issue.

Wym? What if I want to add another delay on top of the usual lag?

Some might find it's not enough for your skills not to fire, they may want to not be able to move on top of that although we have that too...

Rich even suggested removing sprint or smth in the interview he gave to Kyle Dempster.

IDK.

In the interview of Rich transcribed at the link below Rich seems to clearly indicate they are not removing Sprint. Question 3 so you do not have to look far.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/529552/transcribed-interview-with-rich-lambert-27-05-2020/p1

Please link where you see Rich suggesting they are considering removing sprint?

I thought the tone of the message would've given away that I wasn't serious.

You have to admit he gave an extremely stupid answer to that question.

K: "what are you gonna do about sprint bug"

R: "you want us to remove sprint?"

Arogant is what it is.

idk

The mods for Skyrim are very different than add-ons that we have in ESO. Also, Skyrim is a single-player game which also makes the comparison of the two somewhat invalid. I cannot speak to Fallout games as I have not played any of those titles.

Regardless, it is highly doubtful Zos is the reason ESO on consoles do not have add-ons on either console. They clearly have no problem with it so it would seem more so overly control traits of both Sony and MS are the real factors. As such it would be a horrible idea for Zos to make it so consoles could cross-play with PC/Mac because of the complaints console players would make about the advantage add-ons give PC/Mac.

Of course, Zos will practice being a good partner and will not comment on this as it is bad to toss business partners under the bus. But it is much more likely that MS and/or Sony is the biggest barrier to what you are asking for. Again, they maintain tight controls over their platform which is why you do not get updates until 2 weeks after we get them.

Marolf

idk wrote: »

The mods for Skyrim are very different than add-ons that we have in ESO. Also, Skyrim is a single-player game which also makes the comparison of the two somewhat invalid. I cannot speak to Fallout games as I have not played any of those titles.

Regardless, it is highly doubtful Zos is the reason ESO on consoles do not have add-ons on either console. They clearly have no problem with it so it would seem more so overly control traits of both Sony and MS are the real factors. As such it would be a horrible idea for Zos to make it so consoles could cross-play with PC/Mac because of the complaints console players would make about the advantage add-ons give PC/Mac.

Of course, Zos will practice being a good partner and will not comment on this as it is bad to toss business partners under the bus. But it is much more likely that MS and/or Sony is the biggest barrier to what you are asking for. Again, they maintain tight controls over their platform which is why you do not get updates until 2 weeks after we get them.

Again, all valid points and I agree with all, for the most part. I haven't booted the game up in two months, so honestly the cross-play etc. affects me not. When I read the article in question about Stadia I was somewhat disappointed however. I actually started on PC when joining ESO, I switched over to console a couple of years later. Missing the "transfer window" I had to restart, which was understandable, until I read the article about ESO on Stadia and the Cross-progression feature. Either way it still doesn't upset me, it more so makes me question.

volkeswagon

I can see cross play between ps5 and xbox but not between console and pc for the addons reason