So... can we please get a Vampire Lord form?

xtni · May 2020

So... can we please get a Vampire Lord form?
I don't know if it's just me, but I've never been so disappointed with the blood scion.
I think many would have wanted levitate and wings.
The new form is really uninspiring.
Please add the option to alter the morph on scion to look like a Vampire Lord.

crowfl56 · May 2020

LOL, NO

Aliyavana · May 2020

Not gonna happen

Hexi · May 2020

That's a Pure-blood thing. Even in Skyrim you had to be given the blood of Harkon or Serana.

Skykaiser_Ọlọrun · May 2020

Hexi wrote: »

That's a Pure-blood thing. Even in Skyrim you had to be given the blood of Harkon or Serana.

So...someone like Lamae Bal then?

Hexi · May 2020

Skykaiser_Ọlọrun wrote: »

Hexi wrote: »

That's a Pure-blood thing. Even in Skyrim you had to be given the blood of Harkon or Serana.

So...someone like Lamae Bal then?

Nope, She didn't ask for Vampirism.

Skykaiser_Ọlọrun · May 2020

What does that have to do with anything? Being a pure-blood doesn't mean that you asked for it nicely.

Eldartar · May 2020

xtni wrote: »

So... can we please get a Vampire Lord form?
I don't know if it's just me, but I've never been so disappointed with the blood scion.
I think many would have wanted levitate and wings.
The new form is really uninspiring.
Please add the option to alter the morph on scion to look like a Vampire Lord.

hmmmmmm No, Just NO, you'd have more chance of Lag free PvP

Seravi · May 2020

I haven't seen the new vamp look. So it is basically a lord without wings? I enjoyed my look in Skyrim as a female vamp lord. I was hoping they would do something along those lines for females and males.

Is there a difference between them or do we all look the same regardless of sex or race?

Paradisius · May 2020

Skykaiser_Ọlọrun wrote: »

What does that have to do with anything? Being a pure-blood doesn't mean that you asked for it nicely.

Well according to the Lore team for this game, we can't be too similar to Vampire Lords because by their word we are not Vampire Lords, so don't expect any changes to the ultimate visually

Emelaine · May 2020

my immersion

essi2 · May 2020

Pure-bloods get their vampirism directly from Molag Bal.

No player is a Pure-blood.

Also Pure-bloods are Vampire Lords, not the other way round.

PS. You don't need to be a willing participant in the ritual to become a Pure-blood. See Lamea Bal

Elvenheart · May 2020

I just wish they would tone down or remove the purple reddish glow completely.

Hexi · May 2020

Skykaiser_Ọlọrun wrote: »

What does that have to do with anything? Being a pure-blood doesn't mean that you asked for it nicely.

That is exactly what it means. And Harkon didn't ask for it nicely, there were rituals involved. Only individuals who are powerful in their own right are granted such gifts from Molag Bal. Serana tells you all this if you cared to talk to her in Skyrim instad of just skipping ahead.

essi2 · May 2020

Hexi wrote: »

Skykaiser_Ọlọrun wrote: »

What does that have to do with anything? Being a pure-blood doesn't mean that you asked for it nicely.

That is exactly what it means. And Harkon didn't ask for it nicely, there were rituals involved. Only individuals who are powerful in their own right are granted such gifts from Molag Bal. Serana tells you all this if you cared to talk to her in Skyrim instad of just skipping ahead.

Vampires that have been given their condition directly from the Daedric Prince Molag Bal are known as pure-bloods or Daughters of Coldharbour if they are female. Due to their unique nature pure-bloods enjoy greater status among their kind and will usually hold their "half-breed" descendants in low regard. Pure-bloods are likely the main reason for the various strains of vampire bloodlines as the vampirism the Daedric Prince endows varies from individual to individual; the only notable exception to this is the ancient Volkihar clan, whose entire family was given the same strain.

The difference between pure-bloods and their descendents other than their origins, status, and purity is that they may possess additional abilities. Appearance-wise they will look the same as the other vampires in their respective bloodline. The progeny and grand-progeny of a pure-blood may retain their additional abilities but will still be regarded as lower than their sire and grandsire.

The first Daughter of Coldharbour can be roughly dated back to at least the early First Era. Lamae Beolfag was a Nedic virgin who was *** by Molag Bal. Legends recount that after the ordeal, Molag Bal shed a droplet of blood upon her brow and left her to die. During the night she passed into death, but as her funeral pyre was still burning she emerged as the first pure-blood vampire.[1]

The only thing of relevance to whether you are a Pure-blood or not is whether you got the 'gift' from Molag Bal himself, willing or not.

Anumaril · May 2020

Sadly it it is not going to happen, though I want it to so badly... Part of the vampire fantasy for me in Skyrim was having a permanent transformation. It doesn't feel the same without it.

Hexi · May 2020

essi2 wrote: »

The only thing of relevance to whether you are a Pure-blood or not is whether you got the 'gift' from Molag Bal himself, willing or not.

Lamae was a special case to spite Arkay. I don't know of any other pure-blood that was forced to become one.

Hexi · May 2020

Anumaril wrote: »

Sadly it it is not going to happen, though I want it to so badly... Part of the vampire fantasy for me in Skyrim was having a permanent transformation. It doesn't feel the same without it.

Skyrim completely ruined TES Vampires with the removal of sun damage. I get why they did it, but it still took away from the experience.

DarkPicture · May 2020

Vampire ultimate was never meant to be a lord vampire form. So answer is no. They will not change visual model after 5 weeks of pts cycle. Adapt or dont play as vampire = simple xd

Matthew_Galvanus · May 2020

Hexi wrote: »

Anumaril wrote: »

Sadly it it is not going to happen, though I want it to so badly... Part of the vampire fantasy for me in Skyrim was having a permanent transformation. It doesn't feel the same without it.

Skyrim completely ruined TES Vampires with the removal of sun damage. I get why they did it, but it still took away from the experience.

the sun damage mechanic was garbage and a terrible idea. i vivdly remember playing oblivion and dying the second i loaded out of fast travel because enough time passed for me to be hurt by the sun because i went from one end of cyrodiil to the other. that kind of nonsense should never have been a thing.

Matthew_Galvanus · May 2020

Browart wrote: »

Vampire ultimate was never meant to be a lord vampire form. So answer is no. They will not change visual model after 5 weeks of pts cycle. Adapt or dont play as vampire = simple xd

i dont get why people are so whiny about not being a vampire lord. im just happy that the vampire skill line is now a playstyle and not just a passive with a couple abilities.

Kiyakotari · May 2020

Seravi wrote: »

I haven't seen the new vamp look. So it is basically a lord without wings? I enjoyed my look in Skyrim as a female vamp lord. I was hoping they would do something along those lines for females and males.

Is there a difference between them or do we all look the same regardless of sex or race?

Nope. You become demonic beefcake no matter what toon you're rambling around on. No ladies goeth before yonder blood storm.

Elvenheart · May 2020

On the PTS there is both a male Scion form and a female one currently. In the earliest days of testing there was just a male form.

Vevvev · May 2020

Seravi wrote: »

I haven't seen the new vamp look. So it is basically a lord without wings? I enjoyed my look in Skyrim as a female vamp lord. I was hoping they would do something along those lines for females and males.

Is there a difference between them or do we all look the same regardless of sex or race?

There are male and female versions of the form but they both look ugly, have no hair, super buff, and have human-ish eyes with a mouth full of teeth.

biovitalb16_ESO · May 2020

Hexi wrote: »

Skykaiser_Ọlọrun wrote: »

Hexi wrote: »

That's a Pure-blood thing. Even in Skyrim you had to be given the blood of Harkon or Serana.

So...someone like Lamae Bal then?

Nope, She didn't ask for Vampirism.

You sure? Lamae Bal is the first vampire ever created in the ES history, she's as pure blood as it gets.

Matthew_Galvanus · May 2020

biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »

Hexi wrote: »

Skykaiser_Ọlọrun wrote: »

Hexi wrote: »

That's a Pure-blood thing. Even in Skyrim you had to be given the blood of Harkon or Serana.

So...someone like Lamae Bal then?

Nope, She didn't ask for Vampirism.

You sure? Lamae Bal is the first vampire ever created in the ES history, she's as pure blood as it gets.

she was changed against her will by Molag Bal just to spite Arkay

Chrysa1is · May 2020

Hey the rubber vampire looks sick blud. Can't wait to see other players turn into rubber🤣🤣🤣

Hexi · May 2020

Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »

Hexi wrote: »

Anumaril wrote: »

Sadly it it is not going to happen, though I want it to so badly... Part of the vampire fantasy for me in Skyrim was having a permanent transformation. It doesn't feel the same without it.

Skyrim completely ruined TES Vampires with the removal of sun damage. I get why they did it, but it still took away from the experience.

the sun damage mechanic was garbage and a terrible idea. i vivdly remember playing oblivion and dying the second i loaded out of fast travel because enough time passed for me to be hurt by the sun because i went from one end of cyrodiil to the other. that kind of nonsense should never have been a thing.

That's bollox. I had 2 playthroughs where I got vampirism right at the start from the Imperial City sewers at like lvl 2. Never died like that.

Jeremy · May 2020

Seravi wrote: »

I haven't seen the new vamp look. So it is basically a lord without wings? I enjoyed my look in Skyrim as a female vamp lord. I was hoping they would do something along those lines for females and males.

Is there a difference between them or do we all look the same regardless of sex or race?

It looks like the villain off Underworld 2 only without wings.

I was told the original model had wings, but they removed them. My guess is they were obstructing the camera too much (which is the last thing this game needs more of). So if that was the cause, I agree with the decision.

It looks pretty cool to me, honestly. I don't know why people have such an issue with it. It certainly looks vampireish.

Paradisius · May 2020

Jeremy wrote: »

It looks like the villain off Underworld 2 only without wings.

I was told the original model had wings, but they removed them. My guess is they were obstructing the camera too much (which is the last thing this game needs more of). So if that was the cause, I agree with the decision.

It looks pretty cool to me, honestly. I don't know why people have such an issue with it. It certainly looks vampireish.

Actually if you did not see the other threads, it got cut because the lore team said it was lore breaking because we are not Vampire Lords, so they told the design team "No no you cant do that"

DarknessShallFall · May 2020

You all must remember that vampirism is like most virus or diseases, it can evolve. It has been stated in lore books in ESO as well. Lamae Bal created you to be the first of your kind with a new vampire lord like form to be tested out, called Perfect Scion, or at least what she called it (I've seen screen-shots of the new interaction with her for Greymoor, and she says this). Therefore, the vampire you are in ESO is Unique to the one in skyrim.