Olupajmibanan wrote: »Ilambris with Elf Bane beats Zaan.
Otherwise it's Zaan all along which was even buffed for parsing.
Maw is decent but somewhat inconsistent due to light attack proc chance as you said. Haven't tried Domihaus tho as I find the ring size as too much of a limiting condition.
Soundinfinite wrote: »Maw of the Inferno is also on par with Ilambris and Nerienth, and yes can be made stronger on a sorc, but only a sorc and you must use Daedric Prey to get the damage boost, making it very limited. Any parse using the Vampire skills is a cheese parse, 91k or not.
Septimus_Magna wrote: »Soundinfinite wrote: »Maw of the Inferno is also on par with Ilambris and Nerienth, and yes can be made stronger on a sorc, but only a sorc and you must use Daedric Prey to get the damage boost, making it very limited. Any parse using the Vampire skills is a cheese parse, 91k or not.
Yeah, I think Blood for Blood will not be very practical but Elemental Weapon or Force Pulse will be pretty close dps-wise. Sustain is a lot easier with a health draining spammable but that also makes it dangerous to use.
Parsing on mag builds is very weird, most use Siroria which isnt used in raids so the numbers are inflated either way.
universal_wrath wrote: »But why? You should be looking for practicle BiS instead of looking for parsing. Like, even if domihaus is BiS parsing set, how are you going to use it in combat?
naturebased wrote: »universal_wrath wrote: »But why? You should be looking for practicle BiS instead of looking for parsing. Like, even if domihaus is BiS parsing set, how are you going to use it in combat?
Because guilds are demanding higher and higher parses for vet trials. Doesn't matter what DPS I do or don't do in the trial, but actually getting into those trials is the issue. Right now I'm at 63, and need to hit 70k
naturebased wrote: »universal_wrath wrote: »But why? You should be looking for practicle BiS instead of looking for parsing. Like, even if domihaus is BiS parsing set, how are you going to use it in combat?
Because guilds are demanding higher and higher parses for vet trials. Doesn't matter what DPS I do or don't do in the trial, but actually getting into those trials is the issue. Right now I'm at 63, and need to hit 70k
Olupajmibanan wrote: »naturebased wrote: »universal_wrath wrote: »But why? You should be looking for practicle BiS instead of looking for parsing. Like, even if domihaus is BiS parsing set, how are you going to use it in combat?
Because guilds are demanding higher and higher parses for vet trials. Doesn't matter what DPS I do or don't do in the trial, but actually getting into those trials is the issue. Right now I'm at 63, and need to hit 70k
I am the trial leader in my guild and I specificaly prohibited some things on dps tests. Our tests are done on Target Centurion Robust in full trial party while parse cheeses with little to no use in actual trial are prohibited (Siroria, Relequen, Zaan on ranged characters, at least 17k hp without ebon and minor toughness is needed so no cheese food ...). The idea behind this is that I want to see how applicants are confident with their rotations and especialy light attack weaving. You'll learn mechanics within a trial, but if you can't effectively LA weave on dummy you definitely couldn't do it in a trial.
I agree that dps tests does not show if the applicant is prepared for a particular trial, but it shows the level of general preparation.
Olupajmibanan wrote: »naturebased wrote: »universal_wrath wrote: »But why? You should be looking for practicle BiS instead of looking for parsing. Like, even if domihaus is BiS parsing set, how are you going to use it in combat?
Because guilds are demanding higher and higher parses for vet trials. Doesn't matter what DPS I do or don't do in the trial, but actually getting into those trials is the issue. Right now I'm at 63, and need to hit 70k
I am the trial leader in my guild and I specificaly prohibited some things on dps tests. Our tests are done on Target Centurion Robust in full trial party while parse cheeses with little to no use in actual trial are prohibited (Siroria, Relequen, Zaan on ranged characters, at least 17k hp without ebon and minor toughness is needed so no cheese food ...). The idea behind this is that I want to see how applicants are confident with their rotations and especialy light attack weaving. You'll learn mechanics within a trial, but if you can't effectively LA weave on dummy you definitely couldn't do it in a trial.
I agree that dps tests does not show if the applicant is prepared for a particular trial, but it shows the level of general preparation.
Don't need to have stipulations on gear to see if someone knows their rotation or can weave. In fact, if you can't weave then using Relequen would expose that.
Soundinfinite wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »Soundinfinite wrote: »Maw of the Inferno is also on par with Ilambris and Nerienth, and yes can be made stronger on a sorc, but only a sorc and you must use Daedric Prey to get the damage boost, making it very limited. Any parse using the Vampire skills is a cheese parse, 91k or not.
Yeah, I think Blood for Blood will not be very practical but Elemental Weapon or Force Pulse will be pretty close dps-wise. Sustain is a lot easier with a health draining spammable but that also makes it dangerous to use.
Parsing on mag builds is very weird, most use Siroria which isnt used in raids so the numbers are inflated either way.
Yes, all parsing is weird. Why do all Stam characters, save Stam warden, parse higher than mag, but mag is perferred on live and out perform most stam in raids. Because Stam parses with Rele which is single target and basically a dps loss in real play because there are really no fights without adds or an add phase. Cleve damAge is key and Rele sucks for it. But it hits 1 target really hard. Why do mag parse with Siroria when it can only be used effectively in 2-3 fights outside of Craglorn trials. Why do mag parse with Zaan when it is a dps loss in most situations cause it has low proc chance, long duration, and delivers the bulk of it's damage at it's end which is easily interuptable by trial mechanics, also only single target....I could go on.
It's why parsing is simply a guage of ones abilities, but not a true example of a players effectiveness in trial situations. There is, on average, a correlation between high parsing and higher raid dps, but one does not equal the other. Dummies are useful though, in learning your rotation, molding your muscle memory, and general testing....really they need to release a dummy that comes with 2 adds on each side for parsing and creating BIS gear set-ups. Or at least the dummy with 2 of those Precursor mini dummies you collect from clockwork city placed with it, to create a better trial vs dummy comparisons.