Healing change and battleground score for healer Poll

Arkew

Hello dear Elder Scroll Online user or ZOS forum admin (if you read my post)

I noticed in the PTS you change the battlespirit heal by 60 % (vs 50%),i noticed in bg the heal medal was already hard to got with -50 % heal but with -60 % it's gonna be more hard
for healer to win medal and gonna be problematic.
Without the feeling of reward, healer gonna stop to play in battleground.

I think we doing reduce all heal needed for got reward medal by 10 % (because we also got 10 % heal reduced from battle spirit) for keep giving to healer one luck to win some medal in battleground.

I thanks you for taking time for read this forum and take your time to vote in the poll.

Olupajmibanan

Playing a healer in solo-only BGs is discouraging on its own even without battle spirit change. Firstly we need to bring group queue back.

Qbiken

No (reason)

There are ways to easily "cheese" healing medals in game modes like death matches. Seen
healers reaching 9k scores in death matches due to certain "features" where healing medals gives significantly higher scores than intended.

Think the most absurd I've seen is up to 15k score from a healer in a deathmatch.

Foto1

Minimum +20%

holden_caulfield

Yes

Qbiken wrote: »

There are ways to easily "cheese" healing medals in game modes like death matches. Seen
healers reaching 9k scores in death matches due to certain "features" where healing medals gives significantly higher scores than intended.

Think the most absurd I've seen is up to 15k score from a healer in a deathmatch.

To have high score in bg as an healer you have to effectively heals for more than 7500hp (overhealing doesnt count) in a single target heal consistenly. Do u know how hard it is for most classes to reach 7500 mark without cp and with battlespirit?
And the nerf to pvp heal is NOT 10% is 20%. That means that every healer will go back to earn 2000 points top every match (that's what u get with with the standard healing medals).

But hey a dd can do 40 assists netting 4000 points and in your view thats skill and is right!
This goes with people in pve who complain that the healer is not doing any dps.

LET'S ALL PLAY DD!

holden_caulfield

Yes

This game is getting dumber by the minute

Qbiken

No (reason)

To have high score in bg as an healer you have to effectively heals for more than 7500hp (overhealing doesnt count) in a single target heal. Do u know how hard it is for most classes to reach 7500 mark without cp and with battlespirit?

Currently there are two specs in the game that can fairly easy achieve 7500 healing or more in a singel burst heal:

1. "Healthden": Warden stacking high amount of HP and utilizing Artic WInd as their primary heal. Most of these warden sits at 45-50k HP which will cause artic wind to heal for large amount

2. Petsorc healer: The matriarch is one of the most powerful burst heals in the game and depending on what build you run, you can easily achieve high numbers with this heal to receive the medal.

Down below is a primet example from a deathmatch where the healer (a "Healthden") has the highest score.
[url="[img]https://i.imgur.com/bHLUPCp.png[/img]"][/url]

From the score board you can see that the player received the Critical Heal medal 75 times during that game. And that it gives 100 points every time it occurs. However:

[url="[img]https://i.imgur.com/27SWbxM.png[/img]"][/url]

When you read the in game description it clearly says it should only give 5 points. I´m not the right person to say if the in game description is wrong, or if something un-intended is going on with battlegrounds. But as it stands right now, it´s super easy to cheese/abuse the system if you want a lot of points in a deathmatch.

And the nerf to pvp heal is NOT 10% is 20%

I´m well aware that the change next patch is a 20% nerf to healing. However, as a healer you´ll barely notice any difference in performance since most healers are already "overhealing". The healing change implemented next patch will hurt setups that aren´t healers or have low healing to begin with (like stamblade for example).

This goes with people in pve who complain that the healer is not doing any dps.

In my 5 years playing this game (and I´ve done my fair share of PvE) I´ve never ever met anyone who demands that a healer should do respectable DPS (unless we´re talking about score pushes with a healer running Zen/Martial Knowledge as a healer/DD hybrid).

LET'S ALL PLAY DD!

With how the current PvP meta is at the moment I´d be more than happy to see less healers and pure "peacefull" builds with the pure purpose to stay alive and be an annoyance. Especially the latter which shouldn´t be encourage if you want a healthy PvP scene.

holden_caulfield

Yes

Qbiken wrote: »

To have high score in bg as an healer you have to effectively heals for more than 7500hp (overhealing doesnt count) in a single target heal. Do u know how hard it is for most classes to reach 7500 mark without cp and with battlespirit?

Currently there are two specs in the game that can fairly easy achieve 7500 healing or more in a singel burst heal:

1. "Healthden": Warden stacking high amount of HP and utilizing Artic WInd as their primary heal. Most of these warden sits at 45-50k HP which will cause artic wind to heal for large amount

2. Petsorc healer: The matriarch is one of the most powerful burst heals in the game and depending on what build you run, you can easily achieve high numbers with this heal to receive the medal.

Down below is a primet example from a deathmatch where the healer (a "Healthden") has the highest score.
[url="[img]https://i.imgur.com/bHLUPCp.png[/img]"][/url]

From the score board you can see that the player received the Critical Heal medal 75 times during that game. And that it gives 100 points every time it occurs. However:

[url="[img]https://i.imgur.com/27SWbxM.png[/img]"][/url]

When you read the in game description it clearly says it should only give 5 points. I´m not the right person to say if the in game description is wrong, or if something un-intended is going on with battlegrounds. But as it stands right now, it´s super easy to cheese/abuse the system if you want a lot of points in a deathmatch.

And the nerf to pvp heal is NOT 10% is 20%

I´m well aware that the change next patch is a 20% nerf to healing. However, as a healer you´ll barely notice any difference in performance since most healers are already "overhealing". The healing change implemented next patch will hurt setups that aren´t healers or have low healing to begin with (like stamblade for example).

This goes with people in pve who complain that the healer is not doing any dps.

In my 5 years playing this game (and I´ve done my fair share of PvE) I´ve never ever met anyone who demands that a healer should do respectable DPS (unless we´re talking about score pushes with a healer running Zen/Martial Knowledge as a healer/DD hybrid).

LET'S ALL PLAY DD!

With how the current PvP meta is at the moment I´d be more than happy to see less healers and pure "peacefull" builds with the pure purpose to stay alive and be an annoyance. Especially the latter which shouldn´t be encourage if you want a healthy PvP scene.

I'm the first saying that the scoring system in bg is broken. Not that is worth it, but if u see my post history I have said that many times.
But I know healing in BG, and I assure u that it will almost impossible to earn critical healers medal with a 20% nerf.
The vast majority of BG healers end match with 2000 points even they healed 2M.
The right score should be in between

holden_caulfield

Yes

Or just *** it! Let's go back to the best dd @6000/7000 points and dedicated healer @2000. Fair?

holden_caulfield

Yes

P.S. just yesterday in vet UHG a DD ask me to do something more than heal because, his words, he didnt need to be healed.
In a pug, mind u