Lack of streamer presence?

UGotBenched91

Hmm so I’m just curious why does it seem this game has a lack of streamer presence when compared to other similar games?

D0PAMINE

Because a lot of the players who were involved in streaming ESO have moved on due to issues they had with the game and/or finding a bigger market where they could expand if they were working on streaming full time for a living. Some of them play casually or log on every now and then. It's not the same as it used to be.

UGotBenched91

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Because a lot of the players who were involved in streaming ESO have moved on due to issues they had with the game and/or finding a bigger market where they could expand if they were working on streaming full time for a living. Some of them play casually or log on every now and then. It's not the same as it used to be.

That makes sense. Years ago I’d occasionally watch a streamer on YouTube. He did mostly pvp builds and had black hair. He was pretty popular but for the life of me I can’t remember his name.

eovogtb16_ESO

It's hard to continuously stream a game that performs so badly you're unable to actually play it half of the time.

Vicinia

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Because a lot of the players who were involved in streaming ESO have moved on due to issues they had with the game and/or finding a bigger market where they could expand if they were working on streaming full time for a living. Some of them play casually or log on every now and then. It's not the same as it used to be.

That makes sense. Years ago I’d occasionally watch a streamer on YouTube. He did mostly pvp builds and had black hair. He was pretty popular but for the life of me I can’t remember his name.

Sounds like SypherPK. Think he mainly does Fortnite streams.

starkerealm

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

Hmm so I’m just curious why does it seem this game has a lack of streamer presence when compared to other similar games?

I literally have Kyle open on my laptop while I'm typing this.

Some other ESO streamers that come to mind immediately are @ninja614, Bert Ferkins, @xynode, Jimmy J J Shabadu, @Ninjamonkey0169, @Casual_Ranger (though, he's had his hands full with recent events). @GandTheImpaler, from the Class Rep program streams. @JebroUnity is a fantastic guy, and steams ESO. I haven't caught @Shimmer, @MissBizz, or Tienlein in ESO recently. I think Shimmer and MissBizz have their hands full. Tien's been streaming bunch of stuff. GnarlyNate streams ESO primarily.

There has been a lot of turnover lately in the stream community in the last year or so. People like Tech&Junk don't stream ESO these days, and there are a number of content creators that are waiting for Graymoore.

So, there is a stream community on Twitch.

JanTanhide

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Because a lot of the players who were involved in streaming ESO have moved on due to issues they had with the game and/or finding a bigger market where they could expand if they were working on streaming full time for a living. Some of them play casually or log on every now and then. It's not the same as it used to be.

That makes sense. Years ago I’d occasionally watch a streamer on YouTube. He did mostly pvp builds and had black hair. He was pretty popular but for the life of me I can’t remember his name.

Probably Sypher. He still streams but not ESO.

starkerealm

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Because a lot of the players who were involved in streaming ESO have moved on due to issues they had with the game and/or finding a bigger market where they could expand if they were working on streaming full time for a living. Some of them play casually or log on every now and then. It's not the same as it used to be.

That makes sense. Years ago I’d occasionally watch a streamer on YouTube. He did mostly pvp builds and had black hair. He was pretty popular but for the life of me I can’t remember his name.

Probably @Sypher.

starkerealm

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

It's hard to continuously stream a game that performs so badly you're unable to actually play it half of the time.

That's, mostly the PS4 streamers. A lot of them, including MilkViper and Tech moved over to PC.

D0PAMINE

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Because a lot of the players who were involved in streaming ESO have moved on due to issues they had with the game and/or finding a bigger market where they could expand if they were working on streaming full time for a living. Some of them play casually or log on every now and then. It's not the same as it used to be.

That makes sense. Years ago I’d occasionally watch a streamer on YouTube. He did mostly pvp builds and had black hair. He was pretty popular but for the life of me I can’t remember his name.

As others already said, it was probably SypherPK. He started making a crazy amount of money when he stopped streaming ESO for Fortnite. It's great to see how successful he became. More luck to him.

eovogtb16_ESO

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

starkerealm

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

If you're honestly trying to say that @Ninja614 and @xynode are not both excellent players... "LOL." There are a lot of very skilled players who stream ESO.

eovogtb16_ESO

Yes.

starkerealm

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

Yes.

Kiralyn2000

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.


edit: yes, yes - "old man yells at cloud".

D0PAMINE

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.


edit: yes, yes - "old man yells at cloud".

You could apply that towards people who watch sports.

Berek_Bloodfang

Most people enjoy watching competitive PvP of some sort, not a big market for watching carebears running around role-playing. The removal of group queuing pretty much killed any sort of quick competitive PvP this game had. Too bad they won't do what League of Legends does and have Solo/Duo-Q combined with a Full Group-Q options.

Sanctum74

There used to be a great streamer presence, but no one wants to stream when none of your skills will go off.

starkerealm

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.


edit: yes, yes - "old man yells at cloud".

It's not really that different from any other kind of performance art. "Why would I watch someone perform music when I could just play it myself?"

Beyond that, Streaming (and LPs) are about finding what you're looking for. Some streamers tend to be very educational. Some are informal and are engaged in a conversations with the audience. Some are genuinely funny. Some are just that damn good at the game. There's PvP, there's PvE, there's housing... seriously, @Ninjamonkey0169 runs a stream where he turns the housing system in ESO into art.

Personally, I tend to put streams on while I do something else and interact with chat as I have a moment to. To be fair, when I'm not coughing up a lung, I also tend to hop in discord with friends, and you can even hear me lighting Gand up in one of Kyle Dempster's AFK reels.

So like I said, it's about finding a streamer and community that syncs up with what you're looking for.

starkerealm

paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »

Most people enjoy watching competitive PvP of some sort, not a big market for watching carebears running around role-playing. The removal of group queuing pretty much killed any sort of quick competitive PvP this game had. Too bad they won't do what League of Legends does and have Solo/Duo-Q combined with a Full Group-Q options.

Yeah, not sure about the actual RP community on Twitch. There's a lot like Tea where I'm not sure what people are watching, but, more power to her.

mairwen85

There's quite a few casual, roaming aimlessly around streamers... And a couple who do bizarre, off the wall things. There's a new one popped up recently who streams naked pledges and 2hr long videos of 4 nude tanks taking down dragons, badly and with difficulty but having a jolly good laugh. I mean, OK, it's not great, but it's not bad either.

Starlock

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.

Same. It's utterly bizarre. The apex of boredom is me watching someone ELSE play games when I could be doing it myself. Seriously.

starkerealm

Starlock wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.

Same. It's utterly bizarre. The apex of boredom is me watching someone ELSE play games when I could be doing it myself. Seriously.

Both of these can happen at the same time.

Vea

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.


edit: yes, yes - "old man yells at cloud".

I like to see how people play the game. Housing is very interesting and BG's too. Some of those guys and girls are really good at play, I can say it is "fascinating" in a certain way 😊

Starlock

starkerealm wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.

Same. It's utterly bizarre. The apex of boredom is me watching someone ELSE play games when I could be doing it myself. Seriously.

Both of these can happen at the same time.

No, not really.

https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/can-humans-actually-multitask.html

Pauls

There were more streamers but most of them stuck at infinite loadscreen and some got disconnected and cant log in due to error 304. Thank you for your patience.

starkerealm

Starlock wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.

Same. It's utterly bizarre. The apex of boredom is me watching someone ELSE play games when I could be doing it myself. Seriously.

Both of these can happen at the same time.

No, not really.

https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/can-humans-actually-multitask.html

*looks at the three monitors on his desk*

*looks back at @starlock*

Kiralyn2000

starkerealm wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.


edit: yes, yes - "old man yells at cloud".

It's not really that different from any other kind of performance art. "Why would I watch someone perform music when I could just play it myself?"

I guess I just don't see "playing a videogame" as something outside the reach of the random person, unlike performing music or playing a sport. Or as something notable or interesting to watch, versus doing it. /shrug

starkerealm wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

Same. It's utterly bizarre. The apex of boredom is me watching someone ELSE play games when I could be doing it myself. Seriously.

Both of these can happen at the same time.

Honestly, I've never understood how or why people would be playing a game and having a TV show/movie/radio playing beside it, either.

Just another example of different people are different, I suppose.

starkerealm

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.


edit: yes, yes - "old man yells at cloud".

It's not really that different from any other kind of performance art. "Why would I watch someone perform music when I could just play it myself?"

I guess I just don't see "playing a videogame" as something outside the reach of the random person, unlike performing music or playing a sport. Or as something notable or interesting to watch, versus doing it. /shrug

It's a degree of proficiency thing. Stands to reason that someone who puts in a 40 hour week playing the game will be more skilled at it than someone who has a couple hours over the weekend. Now, that's not true in every case, but the idea is there.

MattT1988

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

Hmm so I’m just curious why does it seem this game has a lack of streamer presence when compared to other similar games?

Who cares? Gaming survived for decades without streamers, it will continue to survive if the day comes that streaming stops. Play the game yourself.

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »

The only streamers left and the ones you listed aren't very good players and why would someone want to watch someone who isn't very good at the game play it?

I don't know why you'd want to watch anyone play a game. This whole streamer thing (let alone the insanity that people can earn money at it) just baffles me.


edit: yes, yes - "old man yells at cloud".

You could apply that towards people who watch sports.

Watching Micheal Jordan dunk is a bit different to watching someone sit on their arse and push buttons on a controller. I can’t dunk like Jordan, but I can push buttons on a controller.

NyassaV

A lot of streamers are also taking breaks from there game here and there. I can name a few, myself included. This goes on a lot with all the changes ZOS makes.