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Nerf Snipe
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jadarock✭✭✭✭✭@FakeZavos
My magwarden magdk and magplar dont have stam to block and roll dizzy spam allday but I'm expected to manage the situation or get wiped right? What's the difference with snipe the range?? That's it literally without the desync it's an out of position or l2p issue straight up1 -
nuttytom✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.2 -
nuttytom✭✭✭✭@FakeZavos
My magwarden magdk and magplar dont have stam to block and roll dizzy spam allday but I'm expected to manage the situation or get wiped right? What's the difference with snipe the range?? That's it literally without the desync it's an out of position or l2p issue straight up
tank it and heal then lol0 -
FakeZavos✭✭✭✭@FakeZavos
My magwarden magdk and magplar dont have stam to block and roll dizzy spam allday but I'm expected to manage the situation or get wiped right? What's the difference with snipe the range?? That's it literally without the desync it's an out of position or l2p issue straight up
We are not talking about the picture. We are talking about snipe in general. The picture was just a fun example cuz you dont see 5 of the same skills by different people everyday
And idk wtf im trying to do here if I actually have to explain the difference between dizzy spam and snipe.Edited by FakeZavos on May 12, 2020 8:18PMWhy do I even try2 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.
If you are facing the sniper you can see it and as long as it doesnt desync you can also hear it....3 -
Irfind✭✭✭✭✭@FakeZavos
My magwarden magdk and magplar dont have stam to block and roll dizzy spam allday but I'm expected to manage the situation or get wiped right? What's the difference with snipe the range?? That's it literally without the desync it's an out of position or l2p issue straight up
What ? ...
Warden
Crystallized Shield
Cast Time: Instant
Target: Self
Cost: 3780 Magicka
Skill description
Spin a shield of ice around you, absorbing up to 13548 damage from 3 projectiles. Each time you absorb a projectile you restore 831 Magicka.
Mag DK
Protective Scale
Cast Time: Instant
Target: Self
Cost: 3780 Magicka
Skill description
Flex your scales, reducing your damage taken from projectiles by 50% for 6 seconds.
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jadarock✭✭✭✭✭@FakeZavos
My magwarden magdk and magplar dont have stam to block and roll dizzy spam allday but I'm expected to manage the situation or get wiped right? What's the difference with snipe the range?? That's it literally without the desync it's an out of position or l2p issue straight up
What ? ...
Warden
Crystallized Shield
Cast Time: Instant
Target: Self
Cost: 3780 Magicka
Skill description
Spin a shield of ice around you, absorbing up to 13548 damage from 3 projectiles. Each time you absorb a projectile you restore 831 Magicka.
Mag DK
Protective Scale
Cast Time: Instant
Target: Self
Cost: 3780 Magicka
Skill description
Flex your scales, reducing your damage taken from projectiles by 50% for 6 seconds.
Read my post again......Those dont mitigate dizzy
To your point.....
I dont even slot that skill on my magwarden and unless I'm asleep at the wheel caught out of position or desynced I manage to survive
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StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wonder what @nuttytom has his templar is built as (the tips/ hint's at the bottom of the pic gave that away before being removed for N&S).
Might be some insight to at least hints and help from more seasoned players who can give ideas on how to reducing the stress from and survive the snipe barrage while more coherent and less phish baited (nerf this/nerf that) ideas on how to make snipe better and less-to-zero desync are created and suggested.
Me being deaf, I have to rely on assumptions and visual queues, and my builds would probably not help him out (even being able to survive [barely] some desyncs) cause I build around my personal weaknesses and strengths.Edited by StormeReigns on May 12, 2020 9:04PM2 -
nuttytom✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.
If you are facing the sniper you can see it and as long as it doesnt desync you can also hear it....
its always from stealth.1 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.
If you are facing the sniper you can see it and as long as it doesnt desync you can also hear it....
its always from stealth.
Two things here bud
1) Even from stealth if you are facing the sniper you CAN see the arrow. Hell you can see the shadow of the arrow
2)Give them a touch of credit if every shot was from stealth or cloaked they weren't just spamming "one skill"
Without the desync it's a l2p issue4 -
Matchimus✭✭✭✭✭you can be mid 1vX, in a winnable situation, and then BOOM 3 snipes from one guy can hit you all at the same time, from stealth which causes it to be a buggy stun. Oh yes and also desnycs your health so its pretty annoying. And no other ability in the game causes this issue. The snipes can hit for 10k on a magsorc for example.
The sooner someone can put an end to these merry-go-rounds the better.3 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.
If you are facing the sniper you can see it and as long as it doesnt desync you can also hear it....
its always from stealth.
if you cast snipe (or any skill) it WILL pull you out of stealth.
Edited by Gilvoth on May 13, 2020 1:21AM2 -
Nord_Raseri✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nerf nerf threadsVeit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.9 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nord_Raseri wrote: »Nerf nerf threads
I agree, all nerf threads should have a 30 day cool down before they can post again
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nuttytom✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.
If you are facing the sniper you can see it and as long as it doesnt desync you can also hear it....
its always from stealth.
Two things here bud
1) Even from stealth if you are facing the sniper you CAN see the arrow. Hell you can see the shadow of the arrow
2)Give them a touch of credit if every shot was from stealth or cloaked they weren't just spamming "one skill"
Without the desync it's a l2p issue
its so obvious that you dont 1vX lol2 -
Nord_Raseri✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nord_Raseri wrote: »Nerf nerf threads
I agree, all nerf threads should have a 30 day cool down before they can post again
And if they try again within that time frame all of their characters gets a forced dunce hat and title of Nerf Herder for 30 days.Veit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.2 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.
If you are facing the sniper you can see it and as long as it doesnt desync you can also hear it....
its always from stealth.
Two things here bud
1) Even from stealth if you are facing the sniper you CAN see the arrow. Hell you can see the shadow of the arrow
2)Give them a touch of credit if every shot was from stealth or cloaked they weren't just spamming "one skill"
Without the desync it's a l2p issue
its so obvious that you dont 1vX lol
Outside of the desync Git gud scrub4 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.
If you are facing the sniper you can see it and as long as it doesnt desync you can also hear it....
its always from stealth.
if you cast snipe (or any skill) it WILL pull you out of stealth.
Not if you heavy attack and proc Shadowstrike at the same instant.
Oops my mouth is running...0 -
Bergzorn✭✭✭✭✭
✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.
If you are facing the sniper you can see it and as long as it doesnt desync you can also hear it....
its always from stealth.
if you cast snipe (or any skill) it WILL pull you out of stealth.
Casting snipe does not pull you out of stealth, hitting your target for damage does. When (or if) I hear the Snipe sound or see an incoming arrow, I usually have to let it hit me to unstealth the attacker so I can fight back.
To the people saying it should be fixed, not nerfed. Snipe is ok-ish as a skill IMO, but it is the worst offender with regard to bugs and has been on different levels for years. ZOS is clearly unable or unwilling to fix it, so maybe it really should be changed. Several players proposed to make it a long-range, very narrow conal AOE with high damage. That would probably help a lot with the desyncs.no CP PvP PC/EU
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Joinovikova✭✭✭✭
this is just so wrong lol, getting sniped from STEALTH and a getting a buggy stun + desync is completely different
Do you have a video so we can watch and see for ourselves if the tell tale bow twang noise occurred? Without that we have no way to know if you got caught out of position or you were hit with the desync bud
He isnt just making this up. Spines and overload+elemental weapon are the 2 big causes of maaaasive desyncs. Its a pretty well known fact. No need for us to make a video about it.
They even name builds after it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b_4ZK7eCc4
ALL damage skills are causing desync due to lagg and HIGH ping, snipe is among them all.
wrong.
.. he/she is true all skill have desync..cloak also.. sometimes I hit peole with so Scorch and utlimate like 2s after I used it .. sometimes the game decided to revert my streak.. and put me back and try to use Temporal Guard on prime time
last time I stuck in animation for 1 minute.... sometimes I get instand kill from ballista all dots instanly..
problem is not snipe.. (f.e. IC works ok never god desycn kill.. or BG, but cyro during prime time is unplayble but it is not reason to destroy some skill.. we need to be strong and request fix..)1 -
Rowjoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭lol, its not Snipe.
Here's the thing:
Stam nb's will typically build into max damage at the expense of health and resistances, so it's the extremely high weapon/crit damage on the build, not the weapon skill itself.
The trade off is that NB's use stealth instead of health to achieve the damage so once you pull a nb from stealth most will die extremely fast.
Snipe has a slow cast time and is easy to block/roll dodge.
Stealth is easy enough to counter too, so learning how to do this until its second nature plus looking at your own build to make sure you have enough defensive capabilities for PVP is key.
Edited by Rowjoh on May 13, 2020 9:33AM0 -
WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭lol, its not Snipe.
Here's the thing:
Stam nb's will typically build into max damage at the expense of health and resistances, so it's the extremely high weapon/crit damage on the build, not the weapon skill itself.
The trade off is that NB's use stealth instead of health to achieve the damage so once you pull a nb from stealth most will die extremely fast.
Snipe has a slow cast time and is easy to block/roll dodge.
Stealth is easy enough to counter too, so learning how to do this until its second nature plus looking at your own build to make sure you have enough defensive capabilities for PVP is key.
Lol, when someone snipes, the moment that arrow releases all damage after that from different sources is put in a que, then snipe hits together with all damage received, this has no counter. Ganking is no issue, its annoying and fun at the same time. The instanly drop deads due to 1 or 2 snipes are just so bad....Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only0 -
BRCOURTN✭✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »
I don't think you read what I said. People here are saying l2p, block etc when snipe is incoming. It's obvious, yes and used to be very easy to do but with the state of the servers at the moment, the first snipe you block on que is already 5th or 6th one, so by the time you think you dodged a snipe, you already took 30k damage but the game is kinda just sitting there, cross legged in a big wig, filing it's French tips before the damage soaked up shows on your end and boom! You got "one shot"
exactly. Like ok lets just block this snipe that we cant see coming. Some people here clearly don't pvp or only zerg when they pvp.
If you are facing the sniper you can see it and as long as it doesnt desync you can also hear it....
its always from stealth.
Two things here bud
1) Even from stealth if you are facing the sniper you CAN see the arrow. Hell you can see the shadow of the arrow
2)Give them a touch of credit if every shot was from stealth or cloaked they weren't just spamming "one skill"
Without the desync it's a l2p issue
its so obvious that you dont 1vX lol
It's so obvious that you don't 1vX lol or you'd be able to handle a sniping noob. Maybe you try to 1vX, but you're not actually 1vXing. I 1vX all the time. I have friends who 1vX and we all tell each other stories about how easy it is to avoid snipes. And the Xs aren't just 2s, im talking 3s and maybe sometimes 4s. So don't talk like you know 1vXing like I know 1vXing3
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