ESO in 8k looks AMAZING

Ruder · May 2020

Just wanted to share a few screenshots that I took, damn the game can look gorgeous on high res displays.

We only need High-res texture update and the game will be able to compete with upcoming MMOs

https://photos.app.goo.gl/9RkGVH4C8bCNp6fU9

Starlock · May 2020

The human eye can't even process the difference between 4k and 8k except possibly on very, very large screens. So... I guess let us know when our eyes can be surgically upgraded to tell the difference?

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/02/29/few-can-tell-the-difference-between-8k-vs-4k-tvs-according-to-double-blind-study-by-warner-bros/

StormeReigns · May 2020

Starlock wrote: »

The human eye can't even process the difference between 4k and 8k except possibly on very, very large screens. So... I guess let us know when our eyes can be surgically upgraded to tell the difference?

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/02/29/few-can-tell-the-difference-between-8k-vs-4k-tvs-according-to-double-blind-study-by-warner-bros/

I might know a guy... though, seems to not be answering his phone for some odd reason.

https://youtu.be/nVlVTY-Pn9Q

Aerenthir · May 2020

We can already get the High-res texture updates, by using ReShade.

MEBengalsFan2001 · May 2020

Starlock wrote: »

The human eye can't even process the difference between 4k and 8k except possibly on very, very large screens. So... I guess let us know when our eyes can be surgically upgraded to tell the difference?

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/02/29/few-can-tell-the-difference-between-8k-vs-4k-tvs-according-to-double-blind-study-by-warner-bros/

When I got my 4k set I heard the same thing. There is little difference between 1080p and 4k unless you get a bigger screen size.

So I did this. I had a 50" 1080p set and compared it to a 4K 50" set. Ran the same show that was 4k at that time on one set and the other at 1080p. This was all before HDR. I could tell the difference between the two sets very easily. The imagine was clearer with more details on the 4K set.

When to Best Buy before the lockdown and got to experience the same with a 4K vs. 8K. The 8k set was up scaling the 4k set. Both from the same manufacture and both sets had HDR. From what I saw you can see some subtle difference in 8k vs. 4k. Comparing 8k to 4k. From my experience it is similar to going from 1080p to 4k. Going from 1080p to 8k you will definitely see a difference.

My recommendation for screen resolution is based on TV size.

720p screen sizes that are lower than 32"

1080p screen size between 20-48"

4K screen size from 40-65"

8k screen size from 55+"

I'm currently using a 4K HDR 55" screen and I won't upgrade to 8K unless I get a 60" screen or bigger because I can't justify the price of a 8k set that is 55". In fact the 8K prices need to come down to what 4K prices were in 2018/2019 before I get a new set.

Overall if you do upgrade make sure whatever set you upgrade to has more features than the current set you have or you may find yourself disappointed and going back to the older set if you didn't junk it.

rumple9 · May 2020

Looks no different to my game in 1080p

MartiniDaniels · May 2020

Try Plushenko re-shade, with it game looks much better even in UHD. (better then original I mean)

Also it all depends on what you are used too. If I play ESO for long, game even starts to look good for me. But then I'll launch AC:Odyssey or modded Skyrim... and with same FPS ESO visuals just inferior, much worse. Ok, DLC areas are overall ok, but base game aside from some views... textures, lightning, weather... all of it is awful in comparison to even moderately modded Skyrim.

Nanfoodle · May 2020

Starlock wrote: »

The human eye can't even process the difference between 4k and 8k except possibly on very, very large screens. So... I guess let us know when our eyes can be surgically upgraded to tell the difference?

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/02/29/few-can-tell-the-difference-between-8k-vs-4k-tvs-according-to-double-blind-study-by-warner-bros/

Thats not true but the distance you have to sit to see the difference is very great. Something like over 10 feet from the monitor/TV. If you are any closer you use 4k. If your screen is small then 65 inches again you should use 4k

Guyle · May 2020

Nanfoodle wrote: »

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Starlock wrote: »

The human eye can't even process the difference between 4k and 8k except possibly on very, very large screens. So... I guess let us know when our eyes can be surgically upgraded to tell the difference?

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/02/29/few-can-tell-the-difference-between-8k-vs-4k-tvs-according-to-double-blind-study-by-warner-bros/

Thats not true but the distance you have to sit to see the difference is very great. Something like over 10 feet from the monitor/TV. If you are any closer you use 4k. If your screen is small then 65 inches again you should use 4k

Yeah, I hate it when I can't sit across the room from my 120 inch wall screen

caesarvs · May 2020

I'll just leave my Chef Donolon here

SeaGtGruff · May 2020

I've always played with lo or medium settings for performance reasons.

One time I started up the game to do my daily looting and crafting, and was astonished to see grass and flowers all over the place-- thought maybe there'd been some update. Then I realized it was because my settings had gotten changed somehow. After a little while I could tell a definite difference in performance, so I went back down to a lower setting.

When my old computer crashed and I got a better one, I tried running on higher settings for a time. But the first thing I noticed is that it just made it harder to spot Alchemical plants, Clothing plants, and even wood, so I went back to a lower setting even though my new computer can run the game on a higher setting without losing much performance.

daim · May 2020

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

When my old computer crashed and I got a better one, I tried running on higher settings for a time. But the first thing I noticed is that it just made it harder to spot Alchemical plants, Clothing plants, and even wood, so I went back to a lower setting even though my new computer can run the game on a higher setting without losing much performance.

That's some dedicated farming

daemonios · May 2020

Starlock wrote: »

The human eye can't even process the difference between 4k and 8k except possibly on very, very large screens. So... I guess let us know when our eyes can be surgically upgraded to tell the difference?

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/02/29/few-can-tell-the-difference-between-8k-vs-4k-tvs-according-to-double-blind-study-by-warner-bros/

There's a lot wrong with that statement IMO.

The ability to resolve detail at higher resolutions isn't just a function of screen size, but also viewing distance, as well as the viewer's visual acuity. I play on a 55" screen at a distance of around 6'. Most players play on computer monitors at much closer distances. It's not hard for someone to be able to perceive individual pixels in a PC gaming setting.

Also, resolution does more than shrink pixel size. Try to watch two identical size screens at different resolutions, say, 2160p and 1080p, from a distance where you can no longer see individual pixels on the higher resolution screen. I seriously doubt you can't tell the difference between the two images. Resolution contributes to image quality by reducing the perception of jagged edges, increasing the ability to make out fine detail, etc.

I'm not saying higher resolution is the end-all, be-all of image quality, far from it. I find HDR a far more impactful feature. But implying the extra resolution basically goes to waste doesn't strike me as very accurate.

Matchimus · May 2020

Real life is still better.

Dojohoda · May 2020

Wow, that is amazing looking.

TheInfernalRage · May 2020

Nice but my 1080p with ReShade is far superior though.

danno8 · May 2020

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

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Starlock wrote: »

The human eye can't even process the difference between 4k and 8k except possibly on very, very large screens. So... I guess let us know when our eyes can be surgically upgraded to tell the difference?

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/02/29/few-can-tell-the-difference-between-8k-vs-4k-tvs-according-to-double-blind-study-by-warner-bros/

When I got my 4k set I heard the same thing. There is little difference between 1080p and 4k unless you get a bigger screen size.

So I did this. I had a 50" 1080p set and compared it to a 4K 50" set. Ran the same show that was 4k at that time on one set and the other at 1080p. This was all before HDR. I could tell the difference between the two sets very easily. The imagine was clearer with more details on the 4K set.

When to Best Buy before the lockdown and got to experience the same with a 4K vs. 8K. The 8k set was up scaling the 4k set. Both from the same manufacture and both sets had HDR. From what I saw you can see some subtle difference in 8k vs. 4k. Comparing 8k to 4k. From my experience it is similar to going from 1080p to 4k. Going from 1080p to 8k you will definitely see a difference.

My recommendation for screen resolution is based on TV size.

720p screen sizes that are lower than 32"

1080p screen size between 20-48"

4K screen size from 40-65"

8k screen size from 55+"

I'm currently using a 4K HDR 55" screen and I won't upgrade to 8K unless I get a 60" screen or bigger because I can't justify the price of a 8k set that is 55". In fact the 8K prices need to come down to what 4K prices were in 2018/2019 before I get a new set.

Overall if you do upgrade make sure whatever set you upgrade to has more features than the current set you have or you may find yourself disappointed and going back to the older set if you didn't junk it.

From https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/8k-vs-4k-uhd.

Also, keep in mind that Best Buy WANTS you to buy the 8k since it will without a doubt be the most expensive model available. They use certain tricks to make the displays of more expensive models look better. I would only trust third party setups when doing a comparison.

Cadbury · May 2020

Matchimus wrote: »

Real life is still better.

Yeah, but alot of the NPCs are buggy and it's pay-to-win.

Tommy_The_Gun · May 2020

Looks pretty nice.

But 4K or 8K imho only has a meaning if you have ultra larger monitor, or you are playing on a large TV.

I have 27' monitor and I can barely see the difference between 1080 and 4K. Sure, screen is sharper, but that is all. If I move my face to 5 - 7 cementites near the screen, then yes, there is a difference - but it is so marginal it is not worth it. I much prefer screens that have higher refresh rate, pixel response time & colour accuracy over max resolution.

The whole 4K & 8K chase is mostly pushed by TV manufactures, who want to sell you something new. For PC gaming it has almost no meaning and it feels like it is kinda being forced imho.

ArchMikem · May 2020

I wonder if OP is one of those gamers that spent a fortune to have a 2080 Ti.

Ruder · May 2020

I play on a 75 inch tv, difference between 4k and 8k is pretty noticible

MasterSpatula · May 2020

The beauty of this game is certainly one of the reasons I've stuck it out during times other aspects were disappointing me.

idk · May 2020

It seems kind of silly, and a strong bit of bragging, to post a SS of the game in 8k when most people where are not on a screen that can process that resolution, let alone that resolution on a size screen that it would matter.

Kiralyn2000 · May 2020

danno8 wrote: »

Also, keep in mind that Best Buy WANTS you to buy the 8k since it will without a doubt be the most expensive model available. They use certain tricks to make the displays of more expensive models look better. I would only trust third party setups when doing a comparison.

Yep. The TV industry keeps introducing new "must have" features every year or two, to get suckers to buy in to more expensive models (and avoid the decreasing profit margin on the rational TV models.) So many Big Advertised features of the last decade or two, that I just don't see people talking about anymore. (remember when they were pushing 120Hz, and then 240Hz? And 3D! That totally caught on! We're barely reaching the point where there's content for 4k TV owners, and they're pushing 8k! It's so stupid.)

KexinAD · May 2020

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

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danno8 wrote: »

Also, keep in mind that Best Buy WANTS you to buy the 8k since it will without a doubt be the most expensive model available. They use certain tricks to make the displays of more expensive models look better. I would only trust third party setups when doing a comparison.

Yep. The TV industry keeps introducing new "must have" features every year or two, to get suckers to buy in to more expensive models (and avoid the decreasing profit margin on the rational TV models.) So many Big Advertised features of the last decade or two, that I just don't see people talking about anymore. (remember when they were pushing 120Hz, and then 240Hz? And 3D! That totally caught on! We're barely reaching the point where there's content for 4k TV owners, and they're pushing 8k! It's so stupid.)

[Snip] The 240 Hz was never real, that's a fraud. It was obvious way back then that the manufacturer's claims were just fake numbers to pull in the gullible. As for 3D, that had to die to make way for the HDR revolution.

[Edited for bait]

danno8 · May 2020

daemonios wrote: »

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KexinAD wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

The human eye can't even process the difference between 4k and 8k except possibly on very, very large screens. So... I guess let us know when our eyes can be surgically upgraded to tell the difference?

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/02/29/few-can-tell-the-difference-between-8k-vs-4k-tvs-according-to-double-blind-study-by-warner-bros/

I'm sorry but this is possibly the most idiotic thing I've read today. The stupidity in the face of the evidence to the contrary is just shocking.

The test described in the linked piece is also pretty stupid, as it involves downscaling original 8k content and re-upscaling it, and also showing both resolutions on the same screen sequentially, instead of side-by-side at native 8k/4k resolutions.

I read that article. The 4k clips were downscaled from the original 8k content then reupscaled with an 8k container. They explain why they did it that way:

"Why upscale the 4K versions back to 8K? Because both versions would be played on the same 8K display in a random manner (more in a moment). In order to play the 4K and 8K versions of each clip seamlessly without HDMI hiccups or triggering the display to momentarily show the resolution of the input signal, both had to “look like” 8K to the display."

The article is linked in the original article posted and goes into more detail : https://www.techhive.com/article/3529913/8k-vs-4k-tvs-most-consumers-cannot-tell-the-difference.html

Honestly if it takes a side-by-side comparison to see the difference then it can't be much of a difference to start with. The truth is that sitting from a reasonable distance away (10 ft or so seems to be the standard in most living rooms) most people can't tell the difference or see little difference. This shouldn't be surprising. The finer the resolutions we attain, the fewer and fewer people are going to be able to tell the difference.

If you can tell then...great! Whatever floats your boat. But most people simply can not, unless they get within a couple of feet of the TV.

Zulera301 · May 2020

shhh... let the man enjoy his 8k.
jeez, can't even post a pretty picture without someone starting some AYUKCHUYALLY... debate.

SpiderCultist · May 2020

Zulera301 wrote: »

shhh... let the man enjoy his 8k.
jeez, can't even post a pretty picture without someone starting some AYUKCHUYALLY... debate.

love that AYUKCHUYALLY word you came off the top of your head

Ruder · May 2020

For a video content you cannot see any difference between 4k and 8k, however in games the difference is pretty obvious because you have no jagging around the edges of textures/buildings, No shimmering around metal armor, everything is crystal clear, it is like you are looking trough a window.

MaleAmazon · May 2020

Real life is still better.

Depends on where you are. Trust me, first 10 mins on my way to work I wish the world was in 640x480.

MEBengalsFan2001 · May 2020

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

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danno8 wrote: »

Also, keep in mind that Best Buy WANTS you to buy the 8k since it will without a doubt be the most expensive model available. They use certain tricks to make the displays of more expensive models look better. I would only trust third party setups when doing a comparison.

Yep. The TV industry keeps introducing new "must have" features every year or two, to get suckers to buy in to more expensive models (and avoid the decreasing profit margin on the rational TV models.) So many Big Advertised features of the last decade or two, that I just don't see people talking about anymore. (remember when they were pushing 120Hz, and then 240Hz? And 3D! That totally caught on! We're barely reaching the point where there's content for 4k TV owners, and they're pushing 8k! It's so stupid.)

I've had a 4K set for quite a while. On my second one in fact. When I first got my first 4k set there was only handful of 4k content to stream through Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc... today there is so much 4k content that is basically all I watch now. As for getting 4k through other mediums that are not on a disc or streamed are limited.

As for gaming there are some games that look great and other they are slightly polished above the 1080p game. Though gaming you really only see improvements on larger screen sizes from my experience.

I am not sold yet on 8K as it is still in its infancy. Like 4K sets, I'm sure there will be a technology feature added to improve the image further like HDR did. I'm waiting for that tech as I got burnt with 4k as I bought my first TV right before HDR was released.

The biggest thing with any improvement to resolution is screen size and distance to the screen size. If you are closer to the screen you can and will see improvement with higher resolution screens. If you sit further back than you can get by with a lower resolution depending upon the screen size vs. your distance. I forgot to mention that in my prior post. When I compare TV sets I always do it from roughly 6-8' as that is where I typically sit.

I know my TV set is ok for me for now and 8K would make a slight improvements but going from my current 55" 4k set I would need to go to a 8k set that is 60"+ to see the difference between the two sets.

Overall I'm in a wait mode right now on 8k. I rather buy another 4k set with more options at this point than a 8k set.