[VIDEO] Smallscale is dead?

L_Nici

@Aerenthir Really I have even with nothing on my screen 150 Ping and as soon as something ahppens it jumps to 300-500.

Aerenthir

@L_Nici Well with nothing on my screen i get around 90 ping. With fights happening it's around 150 but it's stable enough for me to be able to cast my skills. Yes, it's not perfect. Yes, there is delay, but at least it's delay that i know and can play around.

L_Nici

@Aerenthir You sure we speak about the same campaign? That are my stats on Blackreach.

NeillMcAttack

If your VPN can make grey host stable they deserve some kind of award. I will try blackreach tomorrow for the laugh. Though I have zero expectations.

Aerenthir

L_Nici wrote: »

@Aerenthir You sure we speak about the same campaign? That are my stats on Blackreach.

@L_Nici I'm talking about Grey Host. Aliance locked, CP Campaign in EU. I don't play another campaign. Again, it's not perfect, but it's playable for me.

I do have the feeling, that the desyncs and lag are different for different classes. Maybe it's placebo effect, or i'm going crazy, but when i play my DK it's worse than when i'm playing my templar.

FakeZavos

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

So much salt... so bitter!

Anyway did someone say this is EU, how is that possible? I usually play in no-CP but I'm fairly certain that Cyro PvP doesn't work at all right now. What are your secrets, is this just footage from before the "performance" patch?

Daytime/nighttime PvP. We try to avoid primetime

Mr_Walker

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

So much salt... so bitter!

Anyway did someone say this is EU, how is that possible? I usually play in no-CP but I'm fairly certain that Cyro PvP doesn't work at all right now. What are your secrets, is this just footage from before the "performance" patch?

Likely how a great many fights are determined these days... the group that can get a few skills off wins, the one that the server decides is unworthy lose.

coletas

Anyone who call them cheaters has played really little PvP. Willing to see more videos wipping freeAPlagmakersZergs XD ... Btw What the you do to have such perfomance even out of primetime???

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nuttytom

L_Nici wrote: »

Anyone can do it. Just have a warden with Arctic storm and the necros do the rest with the coloss, that really is nothing special.
That doesn't mean its bad it requires a good organization and timing, but its nothing to show of with. The reason you did that good wasn't that you are good, but because the enemies where pretty dumb. It was the standard Pugzerg from Blackreach EU as soon as the enemies would be organized you wouldn't go far with your playstyle.

This is wrong on so many levels honestly

FakeZavos

L_Nici wrote: »

Anyone can do it. Just have a warden with Arctic storm and the necros do the rest with the coloss, that really is nothing special.
That doesn't mean its bad it requires a good organization and timing, but its nothing to show of with. The reason you did that good wasn't that you are good, but because the enemies where pretty dumb. It was the standard Pugzerg from Blackreach EU as soon as the enemies would be organized you wouldn't go far with your playstyle.

Oh and btw. You know we arent on blackreach right? And we do fight organised groups all the time in Gray Host?

RogueShark

Somewhat unrelated and I apologize but what version of that song did you use? I really like it. Anywhere I can find it?

Tammany

[quote="FakeZavos;c-6749017"
But we arent facetanking the damage. [/quote]
Yeah you do, there is a very reason your health is 24/7 full.
Please provide me a timecode where you really dodged some cruical damage by losing.

You are not able to repeat the same with some other classes, every time i join cyrondil i see some wardens/necros groups licking colomns abusing synergy passives for an eternity against a swarm of other people .
"Yeh you bad" yous say
"Balance is crap" i respond.

Again, its not possible to 3 vs 30 in any other competitive pvp game, because numbers should matter.
But in this game its possible to create very tanky and very bursty build in the same time, wich is pretty absurd.

I'am not trying to blame you, you are a really skilled player i suppose, but the whole picture of 3 people fighting 30 people without their heald dropping to 50% is like bs, skilled or not.

FakeZavos

Tammany wrote: »

Yeah you do, there is a very reason your health is 24/7 full.
Please provide me a timecode where you really dodged some cruical damage by losing.

You are not able to repeat the same with some other classes, every time i join cyrondil i see some wardens/necros groups licking colomns abusing synergy passives for an eternity against a swarm of other people .
"Yeh you bad" yous say
"Balance is crap" i respond.

Again, its not possible to 3 vs 30 in any other competitive pvp game, because numbers should matter.
But in this game its possible to create very tanky and very bursty build in the same time, wich is pretty absurd.

I'am not trying to blame you, you are a really skilled player i suppose, but the whole picture of 3 people fighting 30 people without their heald dropping to 50% is like bs, skilled or not.

0:36, 1:00, 1:49, 2:02, 2:30. After that I stopped checking. On pretty much all those timestamps you can see our health drop lower and we instantly run of the flag to LOS a bunch of the dmg that is incoming from the other flag for example. I'm not saying we dont facetank at all. We do run alot of healing and have 3 different supportsets in group. So we are tanky enough to eat some dmg. But we aren't facetanking everything. We dont have enough sustain to provide that healing.

And why do people bring up the classes each time? We have multiple video's doing the exact same as we do here. And we litteraly have every class in the video (even a nightblade in 1 of the video's). It doesnt have anything to do with the classes. It has to do with group healing and builds. Not class.

ShortTripToHell

The ways you can pull this off is so nice. Some nice killing going on there!

Q_Q

TheMightyRevan wrote: »

L_Nici wrote: »

Anyone can do it. Just have a warden with Arctic storm and the necros do the rest with the coloss, that really is nothing special.
That doesn't mean its bad it requires a good organization and timing, but its nothing to show of with. The reason you did that good wasn't that you are good, but because the enemies where pretty dumb.

you apparently have never done anything like this because then you would know its NOT that easy, not anyone can do it. it requires a decent amount of skill and practice to do a 3v20 no matter which situation or which enemies

Nice little farm, but I doubt there were 20 there.

caperb

I would like to have seen the blue zone chat after this little debacle of theirs

Berenhir

Really good video.

Pulling of any form of vX where X is considerably larger than your own number is difficult and requires top gameplay from all group members as everyone will be under heavy pressure and mistakes are mostly going to be lethal.

Nobody claims that the people you fight in such scenarios are top notch organised PvP players, as they obviously are not.

It nevertheless requires good positioning, movement and micro-management of heals and buffs as well as superb timing and a situational awareness that exceeds what most players are capable of even after years of PvP.

And let me tell you: this zerg group they fight in the clip is just average and neither considerably good nor bad compared to the vast population of Cyrodiil.

To all the haters: If you cannot provide similar up-to-date footage, you might want to keep your hands off the keyboard.

FakeZavos

Berenhir wrote: »

Really good video.

Pulling of any form of vX where X is considerably larger than your own number is difficult and requires top gameplay from all group members as everyone will be under heavy pressure and mistakes are mostly going to be lethal.

Nobody claims that the people you fight in such scenarios are top notch organised PvP players, as they obviously are not.

It nevertheless requires good positioning, movement and micro-management of heals and buffs as well as superb timing and a situational awareness that exceeds what most players are capable of even after years of PvP.

And let me tell you: this zerg group they fight in the clip is just average and neither considerably good nor bad compared to the vast population of Cyrodiil.

To all the haters: If you cannot provide similar up-to-date footage, you might want to keep your hands off the keyboard.

Love you

Q_Q

FakeZavos wrote: »

3vs24+ Roughly speaking. Remember to always do a head count of the people your actually fighting and don't loose sight. You'd be surprised how often we come across other guilds fighting less pugs than their own numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGM6fppt-Y0

Who can’t do this on 3 classes with pay walls?

FakeZavos

Q_Q wrote: »

FakeZavos wrote: »

3vs24+ Roughly speaking. Remember to always do a head count of the people your actually fighting and don't loose sight. You'd be surprised how often we come across other guilds fighting less pugs than their own numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGM6fppt-Y0

Who can’t do this on 3 classes with pay walls?

Well most of the time we do this on templar, dk, necro. But still, there arent many other groups that can do this. On EU there is only a handfull. But keep thinking its the "paywall" blocking you from becoming a good player.