Has ZOS added base recovery to make up missing passive?

relentless_turnip

I didn't see it in the patch notes, but if I run the exact build on PTS as live I have around 200 more recovery unbuffed👍

Perhaps this is to make up the 10% removed from the vamp passive? 👏
I'm not complaining(please don't remove this), but I am wondering if it is an intended feature? Can anyone else confirm?

MashmalloMan

You should clarify the missing passive you're speaking about is the vamp stage 2 +10% mag/stam regen I'm guessing?

Glurin

I suppose the followup question if that recovery is there is if it's tied to being a vampire, in which case there should be a tooltip or something saying as much, or if they just gave everyone some extra recovery across the board.

relentless_turnip

MashmalloMan wrote: »

You should clarify the missing passive you're speaking about is the vamp stage 2 +10% mag/stam regen I'm guessing?

I assumed that was clear as it is the only missing passive on the PTS that gave 10% recovery... But thanks for pointing that out 👍

relentless_turnip

Glurin wrote: »

I suppose the followup question if that recovery is there is if it's tied to being a vampire, in which case there should be a tooltip or something saying as much, or if they just gave everyone some extra recovery across the board.

No I am not vamp 👍

Glurin

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

I suppose the followup question if that recovery is there is if it's tied to being a vampire, in which case there should be a tooltip or something saying as much, or if they just gave everyone some extra recovery across the board.

No I am not vamp 👍

Well if that's the case, then I doubt it would be to make up for the loss of the vampire passive and is more likely an overall balance decision.

Iskiab

Is it more of all 3 stats or just your max stat regen? Weird unexpected change.

Lughlongarm

relentless_turnip wrote: »

I didn't see it in the patch notes, but if I run the exact build on PTS as live I have around 200 more recovery unbuffed👍

Perhaps this is to make up the 10% removed from the vamp passive? 👏
I'm not complaining(please don't remove this), but I am wondering if it is an intended feature? Can anyone else confirm?

I checked and I Cannot confirm you findings. Base recoveries(magicka/stamina) are the same as always with stage 1 vamp and without vamp.

Dagoth_Rac

Are you using jewelry from one of the template coffers? I think default glyph is recovery on those.

idk

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Are you using jewelry from one of the template coffers? I think default glyph is recovery on those.

Very good question as they do not seem to be talking about the same character.

idk

I am pretty sure @Dagoth_Rac wins the prize for solving OP's situation.

The benefit of having characters on both servers is you always have something to compare to live (and can avoid templates more often).

I checked two characters I have not played on the live server in the past couple weeks with their counterpart copied to the PTS so both are completely identical. In both cases, there was a notable drop in recovery. OP has probably used a template character as the glyphs or something else is different than what they have on live.

relentless_turnip

idk wrote: »

I am pretty sure @Dagoth_Rac wins the prize for solving OP's situation.

The benefit of having characters on both servers is you always have something to compare to live (and can avoid templates more often).

I checked two characters I have not played on the live server in the past couple weeks with their counterpart copied to the PTS so both are completely identical. In both cases, there was a notable drop in recovery. OP has probably used a template character as the glyphs or something else is different than what they have on live.

As far as I can see they are identical!

1 infused recovery and 2 infused physical harm.
My base recovery on live 1700ish and it is 1900ish on the PTS.
To verify an earlier question I am not vamp on live or PTS, but have 200 more recovery.

I will double check tonight👍

Langeston

Whatever is giving you that extra recovery is not universal. All of my vamp toons have a bit under 200 less recovery on PTS.

relentless_turnip

Langeston wrote: »

Whatever is giving you that extra recovery is not universal. All of my vamp toons have a bit under 200 less recovery on PTS.

It is weird... I'm wondering if there is a passive activated, that i don't have on live. A lot of skill lines on the PTS are already maxed out.... I might have just had my spirit guardian active or something
I will double check when I log in tonight.

Glurin

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Langeston wrote: »

Whatever is giving you that extra recovery is not universal. All of my vamp toons have a bit under 200 less recovery on PTS.

It is weird... I'm wondering if there is a passive activated, that i don't have on live. A lot of skill lines on the PTS are already maxed out.... I might have just had my spirit guardian active or something
I will double check when I log in tonight.

That kinda makes me wonder if maybe a set you happened to be wearing at the time your character was copied had it's stats changed to give recovery, though I don't remember right off if such a change was made. Might be something to keep an eye out for, just in case.

Langeston

Glurin wrote: »

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Langeston wrote: »

Whatever is giving you that extra recovery is not universal. All of my vamp toons have a bit under 200 less recovery on PTS.

It is weird... I'm wondering if there is a passive activated, that i don't have on live. A lot of skill lines on the PTS are already maxed out.... I might have just had my spirit guardian active or something
I will double check when I log in tonight.

That kinda makes me wonder if maybe a set you happened to be wearing at the time your character was copied had it's stats changed to give recovery, though I don't remember right off if such a change was made. Might be something to keep an eye out for, just in case.

That was my first thought too — I was thinking amber plasm. But it's only getting buffed by 26 for each stat so that wouldn't account for it.

relentless_turnip

Langeston wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Langeston wrote: »

Whatever is giving you that extra recovery is not universal. All of my vamp toons have a bit under 200 less recovery on PTS.

It is weird... I'm wondering if there is a passive activated, that i don't have on live. A lot of skill lines on the PTS are already maxed out.... I might have just had my spirit guardian active or something
I will double check when I log in tonight.

That kinda makes me wonder if maybe a set you happened to be wearing at the time your character was copied had it's stats changed to give recovery, though I don't remember right off if such a change was made. Might be something to keep an eye out for, just in case.

That was my first thought too — I was thinking amber plasm. But it's only getting buffed by 26 for each stat so that wouldn't account for it.

I am on Stamcro - Orc - New Moon, Titanborn, wild hunt ring, one piece mighty chudan and potentates on the back bar.
jewellery all infused, 1 recovery and 2 physical harm. On live it is the same, but I am wearing 1 piece molag kena.

I only noticed the extra recovery by chance and didn't have time to double check, but I'll compare my gear thoroughly on live and PTS to update everyone tonight.

relentless_turnip

I checked on the PTS and live... So the weird thing is my recovery unbuffed on PTS is 1900 and on live 1700, but when I buff up they are the same.

I think maybe minor endurance is stuck on in PTS, but can't see it on my character sheet...