It’s time to make all class burst heals scale off highest offensive stats.
D3N7157
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Stamplar and stamcro are in desperate need of a reliable burst heals. Magicka is going to be dominant in the new patch because of easy access to burst healing abilities to spam while stamplar and stamcro are both stuck with rally, that I believe is not going to be nearly enough to keep them going compared to utterly overpowered radiating regeneration stacking Magicka builds will be abusing. All stam builds will get shelved for group play bc of lack of group utility and cross healing. A solution to this would be to provide stamplar and stamcro with skills comparable to cauterize it’s easier to adjust resistant flesh and honor the dead this way than to create a stamina morph and redesign half of the skill.
We are heading into sad homogenous Magicka meta and something needs to be done before patch hits live servers.
We are heading into sad homogenous Magicka meta and something needs to be done before patch hits live servers.
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D3N7157✭✭✭✭Sorry for the double post, the mobile version of the website is as responsive as prime time pvp2
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Greek_Hellspawn✭✭✭✭Nah stamina is already better than magicka, giving them burst heal is just going to widen the gap between magicka and stamina more.
Why play magicka characters if stamina have everything a magicka character has but even better?
Look at blastbones for example stamina version has MAJOR defile mag has.... Basically nothing.Edited by Greek_Hellspawn on April 23, 2020 6:51PM17 -
Greek_Hellspawn✭✭✭✭Also stamina is going to be more dominant than it already is with the new op set givinig op penetration by just spamming and already op skill which almost all stamina classes use as spammable.5
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RedReign✭✭✭✭John_Falstaff wrote: »Why offensive stat? Tanks would lose burst heal that way.
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How about having it scale off your highest attribute and then buffing Mag classes some2 -
dcam86b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭like someone said Stamina is king atm. I wouldn't hesitate to put all my points into stamina and reskill to some stamina heals. Your suggestion would only further homogenize things.7 -
RedReign✭✭✭✭dcam86b14_ESO wrote: »like someone said Stamina is king atm. I wouldn't hesitate to put all my points into stamina and reskill to some stamina heals. Your suggestion would only further homogenize things.
Let's buff some Mag stuff instead then
Though current state of PTS its looking...well a liiitttle better for Mag0 -
BRCOURTN✭✭✭✭✭John_Falstaff wrote: »Why offensive stat? Tanks would lose burst heal that way.
tanks are already the easiest role in the game, who cares if they get a little debut.
All tanks have to do is buff then taunt then shield then heal then debuff then heavy attack and then not drop block and repeat... while being dynamic based on the needs of the group.0 -
Joinovikova✭✭✭✭Stamplar and stamcro are in desperate need of a reliable burst heals. Magicka is going to be dominant in the new patch because of easy access to burst healing abilities to spam while stamplar and stamcro are both stuck with rally, that I believe is not going to be nearly enough to keep them going compared to utterly overpowered radiating regeneration stacking Magicka builds will be abusing. All stam builds will get shelved for group play bc of lack of group utility and cross healing. A solution to this would be to provide stamplar and stamcro with skills comparable to cauterize it’s easier to adjust resistant flesh and honor the dead this way than to create a stamina morph and redesign half of the skill.
We are heading into sad homogenous Magicka meta and something needs to be done before patch hits live servers.
.. magica builds will be nearly unplayble next patch at least for pvp ...10 -
ForzaRammer✭✭✭✭✭
✭John_Falstaff wrote: »Why offensive stat? Tanks would lose burst heal that way.
tanks are already the easiest role in the game, who cares if they get a little debut.
All tanks have to do is buff then taunt then shield then heal then debuff then heavy attack and then not drop block and repeat... while being dynamic based on the needs of the group.
And what content have you cleared on your tank?15 -
BRCOURTN✭✭✭✭✭ForzaRammer wrote: »John_Falstaff wrote: »Why offensive stat? Tanks would lose burst heal that way.
tanks are already the easiest role in the game, who cares if they get a little debut.
All tanks have to do is buff then taunt then shield then heal then debuff then heavy attack and then not drop block and repeat... while being dynamic based on the needs of the group.
And what content have you cleared on your tank?
oh I don't yank, I just set up dots and spam my spammable. I'm a complicated dps.3 -
D3N7157✭✭✭✭Greek_Hellspawn wrote: »Nah stamina is already better than magicka, giving them burst heal is just going to widen the gap between magicka and stamina more.
Why play magicka characters if stamina have everything a magicka character has but even better?
Look at blastbones for example stamina version has MAJOR defile mag has.... Basically nothing.
Magicka blastbones need something else than they offer currently I agree 5% damage done to all targets hit for 6 sec stacking 3 times would be awesome, and get rid of the dumb minor defile on the burst heal. Bam magcro fixed, too bad it ain't gonna happen.Joinovikova wrote: »Stamplar and stamcro are in desperate need of a reliable burst heals. Magicka is going to be dominant in the new patch because of easy access to burst healing abilities to spam while stamplar and stamcro are both stuck with rally, that I believe is not going to be nearly enough to keep them going compared to utterly overpowered radiating regeneration stacking Magicka builds will be abusing. All stam builds will get shelved for group play bc of lack of group utility and cross healing. A solution to this would be to provide stamplar and stamcro with skills comparable to cauterize it’s easier to adjust resistant flesh and honor the dead this way than to create a stamina morph and redesign half of the skill.
We are heading into sad homogenous Magicka meta and something needs to be done before patch hits live servers.
.. magica builds will be nearly unplayble next patch at least for pvp ...
Yea with all magic procsets getting 25% DMG boost burst heals and radiating regen stacking really unplayabeEdited by D3N7157 on April 23, 2020 7:46PM0 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, they are not at all in need of more healing.Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos6 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Stamplar and stamcro are in desperate need of a reliable burst heals. Magicka is going to be dominant in the new patch because of easy access to burst healing abilities to spam while stamplar and stamcro are both stuck with rally, that I believe is not going to be nearly enough to keep them going compared to utterly overpowered radiating regeneration stacking Magicka builds will be abusing. All stam builds will get shelved for group play bc of lack of group utility and cross healing. A solution to this would be to provide stamplar and stamcro with skills comparable to cauterize it’s easier to adjust resistant flesh and honor the dead this way than to create a stamina morph and redesign half of the skill.
We are heading into sad homogenous Magicka meta and something needs to be done before patch hits live servers.
Wtb self burst heal
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SidraWillowsky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Stamplar and stamcro are in desperate need of a reliable burst heals. Magicka is going to be dominant in the new patch because of easy access to burst healing abilities to spam while stamplar and stamcro are both stuck with rally, that I believe is not going to be nearly enough to keep them going compared to utterly overpowered radiating regeneration stacking Magicka builds will be abusing. All stam builds will get shelved for group play bc of lack of group utility and cross healing. A solution to this would be to provide stamplar and stamcro with skills comparable to cauterize it’s easier to adjust resistant flesh and honor the dead this way than to create a stamina morph and redesign half of the skill.
We are heading into sad homogenous Magicka meta and something needs to be done before patch hits live servers.
So you want stam builds to be able to pull wicked high DPS AND have access to the best burst heals? LOL8 -
D3N7157✭✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »Stamplar and stamcro are in desperate need of a reliable burst heals. Magicka is going to be dominant in the new patch because of easy access to burst healing abilities to spam while stamplar and stamcro are both stuck with rally, that I believe is not going to be nearly enough to keep them going compared to utterly overpowered radiating regeneration stacking Magicka builds will be abusing. All stam builds will get shelved for group play bc of lack of group utility and cross healing. A solution to this would be to provide stamplar and stamcro with skills comparable to cauterize it’s easier to adjust resistant flesh and honor the dead this way than to create a stamina morph and redesign half of the skill.
We are heading into sad homogenous Magicka meta and something needs to be done before patch hits live servers.
Wtb self burst heal
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✭✭✭✭✭Greek_Hellspawn wrote: »Nah stamina is already better than magicka, giving them burst heal is just going to widen the gap between magicka and stamina more.
Why play magicka characters if stamina have everything a magicka character has but even better?
Look at blastbones for example stamina version has MAJOR defile mag has.... Basically nothing.
This post does bring up some good points. It also sheds light that standardizing things to reduce the difference between magicka and stam is not a good idea. That is essentially what OP is asking for.
Also, this would benefit some classes while ignoring others creating a different imbalance. Also, Vigor, when used well, is better than a burst heal in many cases. One can cast vigor just before taking damage and the heal is already doing it's j5 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wrong! right now in pvp heals are Way too strong, they are so Strong that people cant be killed.
all classes right now get to .01% health left and is just a very tiny red little dot left before they die and BAM they cast a heal and they at almost 100% health.
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Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Stamplar and stamcro are in desperate need of a reliable burst heals. Magicka is going to be dominant in the new patch because of easy access to burst healing abilities to spam while stamplar and stamcro are both stuck with rally, that I believe is not going to be nearly enough to keep them going compared to utterly overpowered radiating regeneration stacking Magicka builds will be abusing. All stam builds will get shelved for group play bc of lack of group utility and cross healing. A solution to this would be to provide stamplar and stamcro with skills comparable to cauterize it’s easier to adjust resistant flesh and honor the dead this way than to create a stamina morph and redesign half of the skill.
We are heading into sad homogenous Magicka meta and something needs to be done before patch hits live servers.
Stamplar? Damn, it's a healing class, even stamina can get decent burst heals from it. Not amazing, granted, but decent.
Any form of templar is the game on ez mode.1 -
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✭✭John_Falstaff wrote: »Why offensive stat? Tanks would lose burst heal that way.
tanks are already the easiest role in the game.
Easy to spot who never played a tank before.
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D3N7157✭✭✭✭
Oh the constant mental pressure of holding right mouse button oh nook compared to complex DD and healing rotations tanking is mechanically undemandingJohn_Falstaff wrote: »Why offensive stat? Tanks would lose burst heal that way.
tanks are already the easiest role in the game.
Easy to spot who never played a tank before.
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Nah. Why cater even more to all the overspecialized "all-in-one" builds?It’s time to make all class burst heals scale off highest offensive stats.
Make it scale off health instead!
Let the people who put all into one "offensive stat" sweat as suddenly their heals don't measure up to their damage output, and they get why the "glass cannon" is called just that... and let the tanks rejoice as they finally get more HP for their (resource-limited) heals...
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✭✭✭✭✭Lol.. Stamcro, stamden and stamplar are the holy trinity of best PvP classes, why the hell anyone would like to buff them even more?
These are literally the hardest hitting, the most tanky specs out there, lol, lol, lol.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.4 -
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✭Stamcro has a lot of access to % damage reduction. They are actually getting buffed next patch with the battle spirit healing nerf because they do not rely on Healing as much as other classes (Healing done X healing received will go from 25% to 16% making it a 36% healing nerf).
As for magicka classes next patch, most of their viable options of stacking resistances get a heavy nerf, if resistances were useful anyway with stuhn. Stamina actually gets the better next patch because they can block more so suffer less from the healing + resistance nerf.
But for now, I agree with you that radiating regeneration is way too strong. A group heal shouldn't be this strong with all the other Healing possibilities.0