Possibly time for TESO2?

zaria

I have a better idea! Here it is......

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Its an reason we don't have an WOW 2.
You split the community for one and its way more expensive to do than to work on the old one too even if you has to re write a lot of it so it almost become an new game, well we had one tamriel.

And while WOW 2 could make some sense as the game is 15 year old. Eso is 6, however games has changed much less the last 5 than the 10 year before that.

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Tandor

No! Here's my reason......

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

ESO will carry us over into TES 6. My guess is another 1-2 years of content that will lead us directly into TES 6. Use one product to promote the other, marketing 101.

People should be wary of over-hyping a game no-one has seen yet and which doesn't even have a firm development schedule let alone a release date. Besides, if it does work out then I'm sure I won't be the only TES fan to play TES 6 while maintaining my subscriptions on ESO. A lot of hardcore players would be a lot more relaxed about their gaming if they didn't throw all their waking hours into a single title.

As for the poll, ZOS are well organised for the present and future with content, and the performance issues impact on a small minority of players following certain playstyles. Hopefully the fixes ZOS are working on will come good during this year. This is not remotely the right time for a sequel, but as with my comment about players, developers can work on more than one game and I imagine their next game will be a totally different IP.

Chelo

No! Here's my reason......

Same reason you will never see a WoW 2...

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

No! Here's my reason......

RefLiberty wrote: »

I would like ESO2 in Warhammer unverse, like it is future ESO, but Warhammer ESO.
Civilization evolved and ended up in Warhammer. That would be awesome.

I can already see DLC called "Long journey". It would bevlike on one occasion, after 6 months of Immaterium warp, and 2/3 of the crew dead, with course wrongly plotted, they emerged from void, and they stumbled upon Azeroth. Psijic fleet comm officers managed to establish telepathic link to Immortal Emperor Emeric. The order is received. Extermintaus.
Fleet moved to position and orbital bombardment brought Azeroth to rocks drifting in space. Planet exploded.
Fleet set new course. That is a new DLC.
Boy ESO 2 - Warhammer would be awesome.

you sir are my hero...In the Grim Darkness of the far future...there is only khajiit.(I mean lets be real...dunmer will go extinct...altmer will follow if not simply cuz of their xenophobic nature will either be wiped out or survive on their island...worst case the planet...argonians might get demolished as a species by the dunmer or crumble each others...the humans are so focused on internal wars that will just follow in the steps of cyrodiil...sure there is a chance not to...but all in all khajiit has the best chance for supremacy due to so many facts....so damn many facts...nr 1 and most impurrrrtant here is simply population growth...) then the evolution and oh boi how that works...cult mechanicus will probably have an *** if only they knew! : 3
also regarding finding Azeroth I think u just described what happened to Draenor...well the original timeline that is and not the "fixed" one...also everyone lied to me about Demons...they aren't magical beings coming from another plane...they are a damn evolved race that achieved space travel...the endless spaceship armada hovering Azeroth
also it would make more sense if the warp will be the connection btw the aurbic and that would make so much sense for space travel...plane travel...still this would be awesome!

Khatou

It's an online game that's not even 10 years old and it's an online game must, so what's the point of making another one when the content is already being added regularly?

Moreover given the inability of ZoS managed an MMORPG your desire to go on another game of theirs by you? your courage really.

This studio barely respects this community and don't make me think I don't recognize it because the discussions say a lot about you players.
( nothing against the players who dare to say everything that's wrong here, unlike those who play ignorance on this point!) and especially the disgusting mentality of this studio!

Wifeaggro13

Yes! Here's my reason......

Marolf wrote: »

Because they broke this one beyond repair with core design flaws and vision.

Lady_Linux

I have a better idea! Here it is......

Past time and long overdue for TES6

RedReign

No! Here's my reason......

MMO sequels never work out. Even FFXIV just made an entirely new game.

Elsonso

No! Here's my reason......

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Yes.

The game runs like garbage because of the junk engine they built it on. The only way to truly fix performance is to start over on a new engine. It also looks and feels very dated by this point (granted, so does every other major MMO since they all came out in the first half of this decade, or earlier).

Never going to happen. If anything, the new game that they are building is based on the current ESO engine. What I think is happening in terms of the long term performance plan is that changes made to the engine for that game are working their way back into ESO.

ZOS_Lunar

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worrallj

Yes! Here's my reason......

My main reason is just that we players all have our own ideas of how ESO could have been done different with 20/20 hindsight, and I'm really curious to see what the people who actually made and maintain the game would do differently if they were starting from scratch.

Sarannah

No! Here's my reason......

Massively multiplayer Online games evolve, you don't make new ones. You only do this if the first one was a failure. Making a TESO2 would also be a spit in the face of those that ever bought something in this game's crownstore. Pissing off your paying customers isn't a good idea, especially if you would want them to buy something on a new game.

They should just update and improve the engine, non-stop. Like massively improve it.

I'm also against updating the older zones, they all have their own unique charm. And it would be much better to release new content, to market to new customers.

Universe

No! Here's my reason......

There is no reason to create an ESO clone.
Though I do remember some announcement that they are working on a different project.
But I didn't find useful information about it.

Jakx

The age of the MMO is over due to a number of factors.

First, the investment of money/time until you can achieve profitability.. IF you can achieve profitability.. is several years due to the scale of the project and development time. Companies are not seeing MMO's as profitable.

Second, plays off the first. Consumers arent flocking to MMO's.. whatever the reasons.. millenial culture.. time investment.. MMO burnout from a litany of poor products.. either way it affects the first point.. profitability.

There will never be a WoW 2 or an ESO 2. The investment to profit ratio isn't there especially because they have current products that require little investment per dollar gained. Sad fact is.. Eso makes ENOUGH money and the day it doesn't? Well companies don't do losses. It will be shut down.

End thread.

Ri_Khan

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Universe wrote: »

There is no reason to create an ESO clone.
Though I do remember some announcement that they are working on a different project.
But I didn't find useful information about it.

It's a mobile game called Commander Keen. That's as far as I investigated.

MajThorax

No! Here's my reason......

New alternatives come out every year. Zos wouldn't start from scratch to create a new tamriel.

Everest_Lionheart

No! Here's my reason......

Tandor wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

ESO will carry us over into TES 6. My guess is another 1-2 years of content that will lead us directly into TES 6. Use one product to promote the other, marketing 101.

People should be wary of over-hyping a game no-one has seen yet and which doesn't even have a firm development schedule let alone a release date. Besides, if it does work out then I'm sure I won't be the only TES fan to play TES 6 while maintaining my subscriptions on ESO. A lot of hardcore players would be a lot more relaxed about their gaming if they didn't throw all their waking hours into a single title.

I’m not really hyping it in so much as pointing out how ESO can lead us story wise into TES6 if they ever finally do release the game. Really depends on which direction they want to take both games.

Your other point about settling down player base is something I hadn’t considered before. Certainly a new game with hundreds of hours of content would provide a distraction from the issues people are having with the current game right now.

relentless_turnip

Has anyone else wondered whether with the release of the next gen consoles they might try to start upgrading the engine? I am hoping that might be the case and that performance is more a reflection of the technology limitations.

I realise a lot if not most of the issues are server based rather than client.

JJBoomer

No! Here's my reason......

If they were to do a far future version of Tamriel, then i actually would be okay with an ESO 2.

Also, can people stop being daft by thinking TES6 is somehow going to cancel ESO? That's just beyond ridiculous. Especially since its still a very far off game. There are two games being developed by bethesda ahead of TES6. Thats at least another 4 years at the minimum.

worrallj

Yes! Here's my reason......

JJBoomer wrote: »

If they were to do a far future version of Tamriel, then i actually would be okay with an ESO 2.

Also, can people stop being daft by thinking TES6 is somehow going to cancel ESO? That's just beyond ridiculous. Especially since its still a very far off game. There are two games being developed by bethesda ahead of TES6. Thats at least another 4 years at the minimum.

Also ESO mostly caters to an mmo crowd at this point, the single player rpgers have mostly left anyway at this point I think.

When you run a dungeon, 95% of players ive seen barely even realize there's an accompanying storyline, let alone have a clue what that storyline is.

Aptonoth

No! Here's my reason......

JJBoomer wrote: »

If they were to do a far future version of Tamriel, then i actually would be okay with an ESO 2.

Also, can people stop being daft by thinking TES6 is somehow going to cancel ESO? That's just beyond ridiculous. Especially since its still a very far off game. There are two games being developed by bethesda ahead of TES6. Thats at least another 4 years at the minimum.

Few people remember the two inbetween games. Personally after fallout 4 and 76 I have little hope for eso 6 lol. Eso is the best we’ll likely see from the elder scrolls universe going forward I don’t see any single player eso games coming out anymore. Bethesda studios has too much internal development problems.

Cążki

I have a better idea! Here it is......

THIS GAME DONT HAVE ENDGAME

AND NASA COMPUTER SCORES 30fps here sry mates

grey more is last gate for me here

if this update will not provide any competitive atraction for 810 cp ..im done .

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GarnetFire17

No! Here's my reason......

I seriously doubt if they made a new mmo that performance would be an better.

theyancey

Yes! Here's my reason......

ESO has been going for quite a while now. It has been greatly successful. However you do not wait until it isn't befoe moving to a more modern base. Think going from EQ1 to EQ2. Most likely there are many things the devs would like to do but are constrained by the limits of the software.

I have enjoyed most of the chapters and DLC since launch. They so not come close to matching the depth and breadth of the epic base game though. We need that type story again. One of the big attractions for us old scrollers was having essentially a co-op Skyrim. We fought alongside and against a divers group of NPCs and developed relationships wit some that continue in the story today. We need that again. In an ESO2 I would want to see the same ability to have NPCs fill out groups for us in dungeons. Need a second or third group member? Want to go just solo? Have a drop down menu to fill out your group between the usual DPS/tank/healer classes. This would bring tons of the stand alone players back. Difficulty sliders to make the game fully playable to the most casual among us while being able to be engaging and challenging to the expert player would be a most welcome feature. There needs to be continued and creative ways to develop your characters. Just having new weapons and armor doesn't cut it. The more people buying and playing makes for a more financially healthy game and that benefits everyone.

Lastly I think that we have seen that the grand goal of combing PvE and PvP just does not work. The needs of the two groups conflict. Think of how much easier it would be to maintain game balance in PvP without disrupting the character development and roll playing on the PvE side. The PvE side needs to be an online RPG. The PvP side needs to be more of of an online shooter. They should be sold separately with a discount available for buying both. Another possibility would be to have all toons share a world until LVL 50 or some such and then make an irrevocable choice between the two although I like completely separate games from the get go.

ESO1 doesn't need to completely go away immediately either. It coexist for as long as made financial sense. I think that this is the only approach that meets all needs. Vast performance improvements, both easy and challenging content, an end to the wars over the mutually exclusive and conflicting needs of PvE and PvP, and a great new and more stable financial base for the company. Sign me up for the beta!

lethality_ESO

Jakx wrote: »

There will never be a WoW 2 or an ESO 2. The investment to profit ratio isn't there especially because they have current products that require little investment per dollar gained. Sad fact is.. Eso makes ENOUGH money and the day it doesn't? Well companies don't do losses. It will be shut down.

This isn't correct.

Technology is being democratized at a staggering pace. There are off-the-shelf engines and tools that allow small teams to do what teams of 300 did just 3 years ago.

It may be another 10 years before we see mainstream MMO from a large publisher, but the next big thing won't come from there anyway. But it's coming.

xaraan

No! Here's my reason......

Eh, half the reason I'm even still playing is because of investment in the game and circle of friends. Make me start at zero with possibility of some friends not willing to do so as well and probably be a good point for me to move on from the game.

Destai

No! Here's my reason......

Absolutely not. With the amount of time it'd take to develop the game architecture and release, you'd run into TES6. I'd just like to keep exploring Tamriel and beyond here. I don't know if I plan on even getting TES6 unless Bethesda magically turns a new leave from what toxic practices seen with Fallout 76 and Blades.

Raammzzaa

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I often hear the refrain from players that if there was just another modern MMO with similar end-game content to that offered by ESO (ie. large-group open-world PvP, and trials) then we would all leave and be playing that one. I tend to agree. At this point ESO is about one patch away from being Neverwinter - enjoy the new quest line when each new patch drops, but the performance is the worst on the market and combat direction is a meme.

Turelus

No! Here's my reason......

The game has plenty of areas and stories left to explore.

The only advantage of an ESO 2 would be rebuilding the games code and game systems, which might not even come out as a new style we enjoy.