rather than some side-thing that you just get naturally during progress.
So? That's not a bad thing.
The important thing here is consistency. There had been an established standard, in trials and dungeons, for what speedrun means, and yes, it just meant that you're at the point where you have reasonably clean runs where you're not losing time to wipes. Which, yes, has traditionally been relatively easier than the ultimate achievements. But that's fine. There should be an even spectrum of difficulties covered by achievements, so that groups of all skill levels have intermediate goals that they can work towards, from just clearing it on vet all the way to the trifecta.
When you say something like, "actually an achievement", that means different things to different people, depending on their skill level. For the people who just scrape by with the vet clear of a dungeon, yea, speedrun actually is an achievement for them, because it means they are starting to get cleaner and more consistent. For people who shoot for trifectas, no, it's not much of an achievement, but that applies to a lot of other things as well (and it's still more than just a clear). One person's easy achievement is another's hard achievement, which is why there should be a spread of easy, intermediate, and hard achievements instead of every achievement being hard.
codierussell wrote: »I agree the speedrun should be more achievable. I would say on PS4 NA most groups wouldn't be able to get the speedrun in sunspire on regular vet. Making dressing room available on console would bring it closer but even then load screens are extremely long on PS4 right now to the point any speed run becomes more challenging.
UntilValhalla13 wrote: »I'd be curious to see the time of complete without any add-ons whatsoever. Use the vanilla game and base it off of that.
How many of the dds were vampires? 120K DPS parses seem to be the norm at the moment, which is probably a bit more than ZoS was expecting people to pullMight need to tone down Blood Frienzy and Arterial Burst.