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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Turn Cyrodiil in to a PVE zone (allow PVP anywhere including Cyrodiil)

Cladius30
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Just add pvp flagging and allow pvp anywhere around the game world and change Cyrodiil in to a PVE zone already
Edited by Cladius30 on April 11, 2020 11:14PM
  • relentless_turnip
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    Just add pvp flagging and allow pvp anywhere around the game world and change Cyrodiil in to a PVE zone already

    This again🤬
    Why can't PvP players have one zone!?😂
  • Cladius30
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    you could have the entire world space just turn on a flag
  • Suligost
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    I rather have flagg zone type in rest of the Tamriel or anything pvp-oriented outside of Cyro -.-
  • relentless_turnip
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    you could have the entire world space just turn on a flag

    You can't though, because the majority of people will have theirs switched off.
    Have you played MMOs with opt in PvP? they are mostly terrible.
    When you go to cyrodiil you know exactly what you're going there for. PvP will die the day they take the PvP zone.
  • JumpmanLane
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    Just add pvp flagging and allow pvp anywhere around the game world and change Cyrodiil in to a PVE zone already

    You can PvE in Cyro NOW...if you want to. Though, if you try to PvE there and ignore the PvP side and end up getting DROPPED that’s all on you.

    Everybody gets the invite to Cyro at level 10. I went to full cp Cyro THEN. It’s just part of the game. Why didn’t you?
  • BackStabeth
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    When Cryodiil already has so many issues and problems, why would you suggest making it PVE so that even more people went there? Makes no sense.

    The PvP and Cryodiil have major issues, those issues should be resolved, fixed and put to rest and then let PvP players have their fun in their own space.

    I happen to like the separation...
  • L_Nici
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    Unbelievebale those PvE people who think they would own the game and could order the only zone that is not already theirs to become theirs....

    Sorry to bring it to you, but imagine that PvE people are NOT the only ones who play this game, but they are always the most egoistic ones.

    Also BREAKING NEWS: Cyrodiil is designed for PvP it has keeps in it that can be turned, it has a huge Capture the Flag System, if you would make PvP worldwide and don't have those keeps everywhere that would be pointless, then you could just delete PvP and only allow duells. Also there are not enough PvPler to fill the world map, which would mean that PvP would die out since you never meet someone.
    Edited by L_Nici on April 11, 2020 10:05PM
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  • Luckylancer
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    A seperate PvPless Cyro may be nice. It will be non-cp so people can no-cp dual there. Every player who go to cyro for non-pvp things increase lag more for pvp players.
  • TineaCruris
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    Might not be such a bad idea since PvE seems to work fine, and PvP is the polar opposite of functioning.
  • Cladius30
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    you could have the entire world space just turn on a flag

    You can't though, because the majority of people will have theirs switched off.
    Have you played MMOs with opt in PvP? they are mostly terrible.
    When you go to cyrodiil you know exactly what you're going there for. PvP will die the day they take the PvP zone.

    but those that want to have pvp would have it on?
  • Cladius30
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    L_Nici wrote: »
    Unbelievebale those PvE people who think they would own the game and could order the only zone that is not already theirs to become theirs....

    Sorry to bring it to you, but imagine that PvE people are NOT the only ones who play this game, but they are always the most egoistic ones.

    Also BREAKING NEWS: Cyrodiil is designed for PvP it has keeps in it that can be turned, it has a huge Capture the Flag System, if you would make PvP worldwide and don't have those keeps everywhere that would be pointless, then you could just delete PvP and only allow duells. Also there are not enough PvPler to fill the world map, which would mean that PvP would die out since you never meet someone.

    ok well thats insightful
    sorry to those asking about nerfing a sorcs i really have no idea what your getting at
  • Cladius30
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    When Cryodiil already has so many issues and problems, why would you suggest making it PVE so that even more people went there? Makes no sense.

    The PvP and Cryodiil have major issues, those issues should be resolved, fixed and put to rest and then let PvP players have their fun in their own space.

    I happen to like the separation...

    it just seems like the game world changes but cyrodiil is the never ending war stuck in a time capsule?
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    That's unlikely going to happen. But YOU can work around the pvp chaotic kerfuffle! Become the upcoming newly revamped vampire and sprint from one town to the next in Cyrodiil. Try these soon to be BIS sets, in all impen of course.

    because a sprinting vampire becomes invisible! That's right, invisible!
    Coward's Gear
    2 items: Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    3 items: Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    4 items: Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    5 items: While Sprinting you gain Major Expedition and Major Protection, increasing your Movement Speed and reducing your damage taken by 30%.

    and, maybe pair it with this to help you sprint for longer distances:
    Darkstride
    2 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    3 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    4 items: Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    5 items: Reduces the cost of Sprint and Sneak by 50%.

    [Edit to remove flame]
    Edited by [Deleted User] on April 12, 2020 12:00AM
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  • Cladius30
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    Dojohoda wrote: »
    That's unlikely going to happen. But YOU can work around the pvp chaotic kerfuffle! Become the upcoming newly revamped vampire and sprint from one town to the next in Cyrodiil. Try these soon to be BIS sets, in all impen of course.

    because a sprinting vampire becomes invisible! That's right, invisible!
    Coward's Gear
    2 items: Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    3 items: Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    4 items: Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    5 items: While Sprinting you gain Major Expedition and Major Protection, increasing your Movement Speed and reducing your damage taken by 30%.

    and, maybe pair it with this to help you sprint for longer distances:
    Darkstride
    2 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    3 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    4 items: Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    5 items: Reduces the cost of Sprint and Sneak by 50%.

    although these are good ideas for those who like to play as a vampire i am not in to the vampire thing.
    Edited by [Deleted User] on April 12, 2020 12:01AM
  • zvavi
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    Usually when one of these threads appear someone points out a very important thing. Cyro would be horrible as pve zone. Huge nothingness that barely has anything in it. It is trice as big as other pve zones, with much much less pve content.

    As it is, making cyro PvE zone, is just harassing players that just want to quest imo. At least now they don't go there cause it is "PvP zone"
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    then allow all zones in pve to also include pvp, and we got a deal!
  • Cladius30
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    then allow all zones in pve to also include pvp, and we got a deal!

    absolutely
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    then allow all zones in pve to also include pvp, and we got a deal!

    the insanity of cryodiil pvp is amazing. you have to go over (here) to fight other people ....
    in a non changing time capsule.
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    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.
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    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.

    We do that already. They’re called duels.
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    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.

    We do that already. They’re called duels.

    sure you can talk to your buddy and have a pushing right but im talking about war
  • MattT1988
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.

    We do that already. They’re called duels.

    sure you can talk to your buddy and have a pushing right but im talking about war

    The main theatre of the war in this game is in Cyrodill. Just leave things as is. Besides the design of some of the PvE zones would make for terrible PvP.

    Why does this need to change? There’s no reason for it.
    Edited by MattT1988 on April 11, 2020 11:25PM
  • Thevampirenight
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    Its a bad idea so no.
    It would really be annoying and also the game couldn't handle it.
    Also many would just leave.
    We have several types of battlegrounds for Pvp, we have Cyrodiil, We have Imperial City, and we have Dueling.

    So no I'm not to fond of the idea of having a pvp everywhere mode and there is no way Zenimax would ever add it either. They added it in the form of Duels.
    They might add other types of pvp modes in the future and I really hope they do. But not open world pvp everywhere.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on April 11, 2020 11:28PM
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  • Cladius30
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    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.

    We do that already. They’re called duels.

    sure you can talk to your buddy and have a pushing right but im talking about war

    The main theatre of the war in this game is in Cyrodill. Just leave things as is. Besides the design of some of the PvE zones would make for terrible PvP.

    Why does this need to change? There’s no reason for it.

    in my opinion it would add more excitement to the game world. In my world pvp would just be world wide always on.
    the world would be a cruel and scary place. forcing people to group or take more precaution.
  • MattT1988
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.

    We do that already. They’re called duels.

    sure you can talk to your buddy and have a pushing right but im talking about war

    The main theatre of the war in this game is in Cyrodill. Just leave things as is. Besides the design of some of the PvE zones would make for terrible PvP.

    Why does this need to change? There’s no reason for it.

    in my opinion it would add more excitement to the game world. In my world pvp would just be world wide always on.
    the world would be a cruel and scary place. forcing people to group or take more precaution.

    Then your playing the wrong game. Most people play this game because there is no forced open world PvP on all the maps. Not everyone finds PvP exciting. This drastic change does not need to happen it I don’t think it ever will.

    Go to Cyrodill and BG’s with like minded people and have all your “excitement” there.
    Edited by MattT1988 on April 11, 2020 11:31PM
  • Cladius30
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    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.

    We do that already. They’re called duels.

    sure you can talk to your buddy and have a pushing right but im talking about war

    The main theatre of the war in this game is in Cyrodill. Just leave things as is. Besides the design of some of the PvE zones would make for terrible PvP.

    Why does this need to change? There’s no reason for it.

    in my opinion it would add more excitement to the game world. In my world pvp would just be world wide always on.
    the world would be a cruel and scary place. forcing people to group or take more precaution.

    Then your playing the wrong game. Most people play this game because there is no open world PvP. Not everyone finds PvP exciting.

    this is just a theoretical conversation. do i enjoy this game , yes very much so. Is it going to ruin my day that my perfect world pvp isnt in it ? no
    but its fun to discuss
  • Sylvermynx
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.

    We do that already. They’re called duels.

    sure you can talk to your buddy and have a pushing right but im talking about war

    The main theatre of the war in this game is in Cyrodill. Just leave things as is. Besides the design of some of the PvE zones would make for terrible PvP.

    Why does this need to change? There’s no reason for it.

    in my opinion it would add more excitement to the game world. In my world pvp would just be world wide always on.
    the world would be a cruel and scary place. forcing people to group or take more precaution.

    You go there, a lot of us who have zero use for pvp will drop subs and be out of here in a hot minute. I haven't pvp'd since I played WoW (with a good friend's guild on a pvp server in 2011) and I won't ever pvp again. I spend a lot of IRL money on this game; making open world pvp non-optional would cause me to quit instantly.

    Now, if you want to have it set to flag assuming someone wants to pvp (as in WoW and RIFT when I played - 2006 through 2016), that's fine by me. I won't EVER flag under those circs though, nor would my RL friends (except for the one who would still be loving Cyro except he's not happy about the performance, so is now playing GW2 instead).

    Popcorn indeed....
  • MattT1988
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.

    We do that already. They’re called duels.

    sure you can talk to your buddy and have a pushing right but im talking about war

    The main theatre of the war in this game is in Cyrodill. Just leave things as is. Besides the design of some of the PvE zones would make for terrible PvP.

    Why does this need to change? There’s no reason for it.

    in my opinion it would add more excitement to the game world. In my world pvp would just be world wide always on.
    the world would be a cruel and scary place. forcing people to group or take more precaution.

    Then your playing the wrong game. Most people play this game because there is no open world PvP. Not everyone finds PvP exciting.

    this is just a theoretical conversation. do i enjoy this game , yes very much so. Is it going to ruin my day that my perfect world pvp isnt in it ? no
    but its fun to discuss

    If you find It fun to discuss ways to completely ruin the game, then more power to you.
  • Cladius30
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cladius30 wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Cyrodill would be a terrible PvE only zone. It’s too big and empty. Let PvPers keep it.

    ok but how about allowing pvp all over the world at the same time.

    We do that already. They’re called duels.

    sure you can talk to your buddy and have a pushing right but im talking about war

    The main theatre of the war in this game is in Cyrodill. Just leave things as is. Besides the design of some of the PvE zones would make for terrible PvP.

    Why does this need to change? There’s no reason for it.

    in my opinion it would add more excitement to the game world. In my world pvp would just be world wide always on.
    the world would be a cruel and scary place. forcing people to group or take more precaution.

    You go there, a lot of us who have zero use for pvp will drop subs and be out of here in a hot minute. I haven't pvp'd since I played WoW (with a good friend's guild on a pvp server in 2011) and I won't ever pvp again. I spend a lot of IRL money on this game; making open world pvp non-optional would cause me to quit instantly.

    Now, if you want to have it set to flag assuming someone wants to pvp (as in WoW and RIFT when I played - 2006 through 2016), that's fine by me. I won't EVER flag under those circs though, nor would my RL friends (except for the one who would still be loving Cyro except he's not happy about the performance, so is now playing GW2 instead).

    Popcorn indeed....

    ya i mean the flagging thing could be ok i guess, i just dislike the cyrodiil idea
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